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July 25, 1995 - Part 5
(15:50:53) Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir. Mr. CHERTOFF. In your conversation with Mr. Watkins later that night, did you tell I-Am what areas you had been searching? Ms. THOMASSON. We never discussed where I looked. CHERTOFF. Did you tell him you'd looked in the briefcase? THOMASSON. I don't recall telling him that. I don't recall discussing where I looked, except to say I looked in Vince's office. Mr. CHERTOFF. You had no discussions about the particulars of where you should have looked or shouldn't have looked? Ms. THOMASSON. He didn't have a habit of telling me how to do my job. He just asked me if I would go do that for him. Mr. CHERTOFF. After you went down to your office and first tried to reach Mr. Watkins, did you go back up to the White House Counsel's suite at any further point that night or in the early hours of the following morning? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Mr. CHERTOFF. I have no further questions, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. Let's go, even though we have some time remaining, to the other side. Senator Sarbanes, Senator SARBANES. Mr. Ben-Veniste. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Thank you, sir. Ms. Thomasson, once you received the page on your beeper, which is a portable device that you carried with you-you have with you here today, do Thomasson has held up a beeper. That device prints out a message for you and in this case the message, as has been clarified here, was for you to call a Mr. Watkins and provide your location number; correct? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. So you called the White House communication Center in response to Mr. Watkins' message; correct? one you? The record should show that Ms. Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. At that time, you were at a pay phone at a busy restaurant in Georgetown? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir, 320 Mr. BEN-VENISTE. After you got put through to Mr. Watkins, you went directly to the White House? MS. THOMASSON. Yes, Sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. So the notion is that at 10:34 you received the first message, you returned the message, you get in a cab with your friends who insist on staying with you because they see that you are upset? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, Sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. And you are driven in the taxi to the White House. Now, on a Tuesday night at about 10:30, was there much traffic, as you recall? Ms. THOMASSON. I don't recall there being a lot of traffic, no, Sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Those were in the days before all these barricades were around the White House Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, Sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. -that has obstructed traffic to some extent about which we hear a good deal from our local government? MS. THOMASSON. Yes, Sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. That ride going from Georgetown to the White House was, in your view, how many minutes? Ms. THOMASSON. Ten or 15 minutes, Mr. Ben-Veniste. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Once you got to the White House, you indicated that you departed your friends because you did not want to be delayed by clearing them through the process to have them get admission to the White House? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, Sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Then who did you speak with? Ms. THOMASSON. In the White House? Mr. BEN-VENISTE. At the White House when you arrived there. Ms. THOMASSON. When I opened my office and went tip to the first floor, I saw several people that I knew that were on the first level outside of the Chief of Staffs Office. I saw Bruce Lindsey. I saw Dana Lawrence. I saw John Emerson and his wife. I saw several people that I knew and we stopped to talk and to console each other and discuss what had happened. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. That was my next question actually, whether you brushed those people off and said I've got to get going now or whether you stopped and spoke to them of this tragedy. You consoled them and they consoled you? Ms. THOMASSON. I stopped and spoke to each one of them that I met up with and consoled and was consoled by them. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Then, at some point thereafter, you made your way to the second floor to the Counsel's suite? Ms. THOMASSON. Right. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Approximately how much time do you feel that you spent in Mr. Foster's office, all told, looking in the places that you've already mentioned for a note? Ms. THOMASSON. I think it was approximately 10 minutes, Mr. Ben-Veniste.
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July 25, 1995 - Part 5
(15:55:34) Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Upon leaving the Counsel's Office you went downstairs back to your office and you attempted, again using the electronic means, to get a hold of Mr. Watkins and leave him a message? Ms. THOMASSON. That's correct. 321 Mr. BEN-VENISTE. You provided Mr. Watkins with the message that you had, which was that you had found no note? Ms. THOMASSON. Nothing. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Did you indicate to Mr. Watkins that you had run into Mr. Nussbaum and Ms. Williams? Ms. THOMASSON. I don't recall having discussed that with him, sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Any reason why you wouldn't have mentioned it? I Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. So that was the whole episode? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Was there anything, in your view, surreptitious about your going to the office to look for the note? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir, Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Was there anything untoward or improper in your motivation to go ahead and look for the note? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Did you mean to destroy any evidence should you have come upon it that evening? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Did anyone tell you that that was your mission? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. To the best of your knowledge, did anyone re move any documents from Mr. Foster's office that evening? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir, Mr. BEN-VENISTE. The fact of your having searched for this note on the evening of the 20th has resulted in a tremendous amount of interest and publicity. Is that fair to say? Ms. THOMASSON. That's fair to say. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Did you at any time-strike that. Are you aware now that there are differences in recollection between you and Ms. Williams and Mr. Nussbaum as to certain details about who came first, who stayed when, who left first and all of that? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir, I understand there's a difference. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Did you at any time before you gave testimony on this subject attempt to sit down with Mr. Nussbaum and Ms, Williams to get your stories straight? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Mr. BEN-VE NISTE. That never happened? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. You tell it here today and in our depositions prior to today the way you remembered it? Ms. THOMASSON. Absolutely, sir. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. I have nothing further, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. There's still time if any of the Members want to ask questions or we'll just keep it moving. Senator KERRY. Mr. Chairman, if I could just ask a couple of questions because I have a Member meeting I have to go to in a Moment. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Kerry. 322 OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR JOHN F. KERRY Senator KERRY. I just want to understand completely the timeframe. You arrived at the White House-what was the recorded time by the Secret Service, 10:49 plus 16; is that correct? Mr. BEN-VENISTE. 10:49. Senator KERRY. 10:49. You immediately thereafter walked to the bottom floor? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir. Senator KERRY. Where did you first go when you went in at that point? Ms. THOMASSON. My office is entered-my office was at that time entered-you passed the men's room on the lower level, two doors past that on the left-hand side is where I entered and that's where my office was at that time. Senator KERRY. Did you go to your office directly? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir, I did. Senator KERRY. Did you confront anyone before you went there? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir, not that I recall. Senator FERRY. You did not stop to chat with anybody at that time? Ms. THOMASSON. I don't recall stopping to talk to anybody on that level. Senator KERRY. What did you do when you got to your office? Ms. THOMASSON. I unsecured my office, called the Secret Service, told them I was going in, put my things in my office, closed the door- didn't re-secure it, but closed the door and went up to the first floor. Senator KERRY. You notified the Secret Service at that point in time that you were entering your office? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir. Senator KERRY. How long did you spend in your office? Ms. THOMASSON. It was not very long, just long enough to put my things away. Senator KERRY. At that point in time when you went up to the first floor, you went up for what purpose? Ms. THOMASSON. I was making my way to the second floor, but I stopped on the first floor to see who was there, to see if anyone knew any more than what I had been told by Mr. Watkins. Senator KERRY. How much time did you spend in your own office do you think? Ms. THOMASSON. Maybe a minute or two, Senator. Senator KERRY. A short period of time? Ms. THOMASSON. Very short period of time. Senator KERRY. How long did you spend on the first floor? Ms. THOMASSON. Several minutes on the first floor. Senator KERRY. You had a few conversations there? Ms. THOMASSON. I had a few conversations there. Senator KERRY. Do you recall who you had those conversations with? Ms. THOMASSON. With Bruce Lindsey, with Dana Lawrence, with John Emerson, John Emerson's wife was there that night. Senator KERRY. It was several people? Ms. THOMASSON. Several people were there. 323 Senator KERRY. Regarding the conversations, can you give us just a gist of what went on? Ms. THOMASSON. We were all asking why, why it happened, why would Vince have done that, why wouldn't we recognize that he had such a problem. Everybody was saying I didn't know he was upset, Everybody was very concerned about why he would do that, Senator KERRY. Did you tell any of them where you were headed?
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July 25, 1995 - Part 5
(16:00:45) Ms. THOMASSON. Only Mr. Nussbaum, sir, that I recall. Senator KERRY. Who was present at that time? Ms. THOMASSON. He was walking back and forth-he walked up while I was talking to some of the others and I said, Bernie, I've been asked by David to go up to Vince's office to look for a note, will you go with me? Senator KERRY. His response? Ms. THOMASSON. He walked with me. Senator KERRY. Did he say anything to you? Ms. THOMASSON. He wasn't talking very much, Senator. He was very, very upset. Mr. Nussbaum never talked very much to me because I was so low on the food chain Senator KERRY. I'm not sure what that says. Ms. THOMASSON. I did ask him to go with me that night and, as I recall, he did go up with me and we looked for the note. I looked for the note. He just paced around. He was very upset. senator KERRY. You notified the Secret Service that you were going into your office. Did you feel any need to notify them that you were going into Mr. Foster's office? Ms. THOMASSON. It was unsecured, Senator, so I didn't feel a need to notify them at that time. Senator KERRY. When did you learn it was unsecured? Ms, THOMASSON. When we got to Mr. Foster's office, the Counsel's Office. Senator KERRY. About how much time do you think had passed between you arriving in your office and your arrival in the office up there, maybe 10 minutes or so, more or less? Ms. THOMASSON. More or less, 10 minutes. Senator KERRY. Something like that? Ms. THOMASSON. Something like that. Senator KERRY. You say people were coming out of his office, cleaning personnel? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir. Senator KERRY. How many personnel? Ms. THOMASSON. I only recall seeing one cleaning person coming out of his office. Senator KERRY. Male or female? Ms. THOMASSON. Female. Senator KERRY. Was she carrying anything? Ms. THOMASSON. I don't recall, Senator. Senator KERRY. Was there any discussion about leaving the office secure at that point in time? Ms. THOMASSON. There was no discussion about securing the office at that point in time. Senator KE RRY. It was all open, completely open? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir, it was. 324 Senator KERRY. Was this also the area of Bernie Nussbaum's office? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir. As you are entering the Counsel's suite there's one big room with, say, four or five desks and a seating area, and then to the right as you enter would be-to the right and almost at a 180-degree turn would have been Vince Foster's cubi. cle. Almost directly as you turn right going straight ahead you would have gone into Mr. Nussbaum's office. So when the office door to the secretarial space was open, the whole office was unsecured at that point in time. Senator KERRY. Understood. Since Mr. Nussbaum was still there, there was no reason for it to have been locked up at that point. Is that what you're saying? Ms. THOMASSON. I don't know whether it had been secured earlier in the evening and unsecured when Bernie came back to the White House. I don't know the sequence of events, sir. I know it was unsecured when I got up there. Senator KERRY. Again, to the best of your recollection, what was the amount of time that you spent in Mr. Foster's office? Ms. THOMASSON. About 10 minutes, sir. Senator KERRY. That was the total amount of time during which Ms. Williams and Mr. Nussbaum were with you? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir. Senator KERRY. No other people came in during that period of time? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir, not that I recall. Senator KERRY, Did you ever return to the office again during the course of that evening? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Senator KERRY. Did you make any decisions or have any part in any decisions with respect to the locking of that office? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir, I did not. Senator KERRY. Were you asked anything about the locking of it? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Senator KERRY. Did you play any role whatsoever with respect to the burn bag? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Senator KERRY. Did you play any role whatsoever with respect to inspection of the briefcase other than your cursory opening of the top of it? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Senator KERRY. Did you overhear or take part in any conversations whatsoever that evening, subsequently, about any other entries into that office? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Senator KERRY. Did you hear of any other? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Senator KERRY. Thank you, The CHAIRMAN. Senator Shelby. Senator SHELBY. Thank you. Ms. Thomasson, just for a few minutes could we review the security clearance procedures at the White House, in other words, who has access to what areas of the White House and what type of security clearances they have. For 325 example, what is a blue pass? What does that mean at the White House? Ms. THOMASSON. It means you have access to the White House, sir. Anyone who works in the White House itself would have access to the White House Senator SHELBY. That would include sensitive areas in the White House? Ms. THOMASSON. Not necessarily, sir. For example, if the-a blue pass would not give you access to the situation room necessarily unless you had a job in the situation room. Senator SHELBY. Would it give you access to the White House proper? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir, it would. Senator SHELBY. Including the East Wing and the West Wing office complex? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir. Senator SHELBY. Does everybody at the White House generally have a security clearance? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir. Senator SHELBY. On June 20, 1993, how long had you been working at the White House? Ms. THOMASSON. Since March 1st. Senator SHELBY. Since March 1st. Did you have a security clearance on Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir, I did not.
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July 25, 1995 - Part 5
(16:05:47) Senator SHELBY. Did you obtain a security clearance the following March, March 5, 1994? Ms. THOMASSON. I received it in March 1994, yes. Senator SHELBY. Did you know Mr. Nussbaum very well? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir, I did not. Senator SHELBY. But you knew who he was? Ms. THOMASSON. Yes, sir. Senator SHELBY. Did you come in contact with him infrequently? Ms. THOMASSON. I came in very infrequent contact with Mr. Nussbaum. Senator SHELBY. Did he know your name? Did he know you and your title or whatever? Ms. THOMASSON. I have no idea, sir. Senator SHELBY. When you were at the White House that night and you went into the Deputy Counsel's Office, did he call you Mrs. Thompson, Patsy Thomasson? Did he call you anything? Did he just assume you belong there? If he didn't know you very well and you didn't know him very well, what was the familiarity of both of you going into the Deputy Counsel's Ms. THOMASSON. I told him that Mr. Watkins had asked me to look in Vince Foster's office for a note. Senator SHELBY. Did Mr. Nussbaum ask you at least once, did You have proper security clearance? Ms. THOMASSON. I don't know that I would have had to have Senator SHELBY. I'd ask you to answer the question. Did he ask you, Mr. Nussbaum-let me ask you again. Did Mr. Nussbaum at this time-when you told him Mr. Watkins asked you to go look in the office--did Mr. Nussbaum, the Counsel at the White House, 326 ask you, Ms. Thomasson, did you have proper security clearance to go in there or to look through documents? Ms. THOMASSON. Mr. Nussbaum didn't question me about that. Senator SHELBY. He didn't ask you that question? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Senator SHELBY. Did he mention security clearance at all to you? Ms. THOMASSON. It would not have been an issue that night, Senator Shelby. We were only looking for a suicide note. Senator SHELBY. I didn't ask you if it was an issue. I asked you did lie ask you. Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. I've said that. Senator SHELBY. No, he didn't, did he? When you went into the room, just relate again, you went over and looked on top of Mr. Foster's desk? Ms. THOMASSON. I did. Senator SHELBY. Were there documents on top of the desk? Ms. THOMASSON. There were papers on top of the desk. Senator SHELBY. Papers. Were they stacks of papers like a typi. cal working desk? Ms. THOMASSON. Typical working office, sir. Senator SHELBY. Did you look through the papers? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Senator SHELBY. Did you look at the top of the paper to see perhaps what the subject matter was? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Senator SHELBY, Did you look under the desk? Ms. THOMASSON. No, Sir. Senator SHELBY. Did you sit in the chair, as you related? Ms. THOMASSON. I did sit in the chair, yes, sir. Senator SHELBY. When you sat in the chair, did you look in the drawer, the top drawer, as you related? Ms. THOMASSON. I've testified to that, sir, yes. Senator SHELBY. Did you look in any of the side drawers of the desk? Ms. THOMASSON. I've testified I did, sir. Senator SHELBY. Not what you testified. Did you do it? Ms. THOMASSON. Absolutely did. Senator SHELBY. Did you look at every item in the side drawers of the desk? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Senator SHELBY. What did you do? Ms. THOMASSON. I looked at the top of those desk drawers to see if there was anything that would have looked like a suicide note. Senator SHELBY. What would you describe as looking like a suicide note, like a personal handwritten note or something? How can you describe that? Ms. THOMASSON. In my mind, what I was looking for was something that was in an envelope that would have someone's name on the front, perhaps Lisa Foster. Senator SHELBY. You didn't find that, did you? Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Senator SHELBY. Did Mr. Nussbaum, while you were seated at the desk, sitting at the desk or seated at the desk, did he look around the office for something? 327 Ms. THOMASSON. No, sir. Senator SHELBY. What did he do? Ms. THOMASSON. He was pacing around the office. Senator SHELBY. Just pacing the office? Ms. THOMASSON. He was very upset. He was very distraught about Vince's death that night. Senator SHELBY. Was he quiet, as you described it? Ms. THOMASSON. He was quiet and rubbing his hands through his hair. He was very distraught about Vince's death. Senator SHELBY. Did you have a conversation while you were sitting there or was everything just quiet? Ms. THOMASSON. Fairly quiet, sir. Senator SHELBY. You didn't mention anything to him like I haven't found anything or I don't see anything that's relevant to what I'm looking for? Ms. THOMASSON. I don't recall having had a conversation of that nature, sir. Senator SHELBY. About how long were you in there, in your best judgment? Ms. THOMASSON. In my best guess, sir, I was there about 10 minutes. senator SHELBY. Did Mr. Nussbaum leave when you left, as you relayed? Ms. THOMASSON. As I said earlier, Senator, I was in the office with
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Whitewater Hearings July 25, 1995 Testimony of Patsy Thomasson
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Whitewater Hearings July 25, 1995
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