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Brass Monkey Blues Festival - Nighthawks (take II - part II)
This raw footage of the Nighthawks is mainly close ups and tight shots of the band. There are a lot of good shots of the musicians singing and playing their instruments - keyboards, electic bass, drum set, electric guitar, harmonica - particularly of hands plucking and fretting guitar solos and hitting piano keys. There are also a lot of good close ups of the expressive faces of the musicians as they sing and solo. (05:37:09 - 05:41:10) Opens in the middle of a song being played by the Nighthawks - a rock inspired tune - the story of an exploited mine worker - the chorus "I owe my soul to the company store" [title: "Sixteen Tons"], harmonica player sings this song, the guitarist takes a behind the back solo with his guitar literally behind his head and shoulders - he then continues the solo playing with his teeth, audience claps along to a drum break and solo, song cut off by end of tape
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (2/2)
[01.03.24-DASH questions DEAN, driving at the point that KALMBACH must have known that if the provision of money to the defendants was to be covert, it must have been improper, or else it would have been public and visible] Mr. DEAN.----I told him virtually everything I knew at that time and I think there was no doubt in his mind about the sensitivity of the situation. Mr. DASH. As a matter of fact, Mr. Dean, is there anything wrong for instance, if somebody working for you--and after all, Liddy and McCord did work for the Committee To Re-Elect the President--is there anything wrong if anybody works for you and gets in trouble, about your picking up their expenses--defense funds and things like that, Defense funds have been raised. [01.03.58] If that was the attitude of the White House. and. if that was the attitude of the Committee To Re-Elect the President for Mr. Liddy, Mr. McCord, whoever else they involved, would they not at least have tried to dig up a collection from' all those working for the White House and Isn't the committee, to raise a defense fund? Isn't that the way you raise defense funds for defendants? [01.04.20] Mr. DEAN. I am not familiar with raising defense funds, but you generally don't use covert means to raise humanitarian funds. Mr. DASH. Do you use moneys that have been given to a committee to reelect a President of the United States? Mr. DEAN. In covert fashion? Mr. DASH. In raising a defense fund for those who may have been caught in a covert act, do you use campaign funds-- Mr. DEAN. No, you don't. Mr. DASH. Is that a proper use of funds given in a campaign for reelection of a President? Mr. DEAN. No, it is not. Mr. DASH. YOU Spoke of your knowledge of clandestine payments. Can you tell us of your knowledge of the clandestine nature of the way, in which these payments -were made? [01.05.00] Mr. DEAN. Mr. Kalmbach asked me if I would have Mr. Ulasewicz call him when he returned to -California. He said he didn't have. his phone number at that time. and would like to have him reach him as soon as he got back. In a few subsequent conversations I had with Mr. Kalmbach, he had developed what he called code names for various individuals. I think I reefered to these earlier., He called Mr. Hunt the Writer. He called Mr. Haldeman the Brush. Mr. DASH. Do you know what he called Mrs. Hunt? Mr. DEAN. 'The, -writer's wife, I think, maybe. something I don't know. Mr. DASH. Like who is buried in Grant's Tomb, Mr. DEAN. I don't really know. Mr. DASH. Do you know, by the way, whether Mr. Ulasewicz, had a code name? Did you know that he was called Mr. Rivers in the conversation with Mr. Kalmbach and Mr. Ulasewicz? Mr. DEAN. I think I did hear that subsequently from Mr. Kalmbach, that he had referred to him as Mr. Rivers. [01.06.06] Mr. DASH. Now, again, if one were to, on the basis of decency, humanitarianism, whatever way you want to call it, raise a defense fund, 'Would you go about clandestinely using code, names of that kind to secretly make these payoffs? Mr. DEAN. No, sir. Mr. DASH. I think we will have Mr. Kalmbach here to testify as to that in much more detail. Now, did Mr. Kalmbach tell you about any of the instructions that he had as the man who was to make these payoffs? [01.06.44] Mr. DEAN. He, told me when I met him in Lafayette Park that he was going to meet Mr. Ulasewicz at that point in time and that, he was going to have the money laundered. That is the only thing I know about that. He never did tell me exactly how money was laundered. I asked him and he said, I don't know. I don't know if he goes to the race track and exchanges it there or if he's got friends in New York that exchange it, I was never exactly clear on how money was laundered. Mr. DASH. Did Mr. Kalmbach ever tell You that he had had any discussion with Mr. Ehrlichman concerning this role? [01.07.21] Mr. DEAN. . The only time I had heard of any discussion was when--well, Mr. Kalmbach had numerous discussions with Mr. Ehrlichman that I was aware of. Mr. Kalmbach. when he would come into town, would have a list that he would keep in his pocket that he would check off each item with each individual he wanted to talk with. He is a very thorough man. He never told me what he was going over with Mr. Ehrlichman on his list. [01.07.50] The only time. I had heard about his discussing this at all with Mr. Ehrlichman was after April--or let's see, March 29 or 30, when they were in California for President Thieu's visit. He said to me he had met with Mr. Ehrlichman that week to discuss the fact that he was concerned that when he, appeared before this committee he didn't want to ever have the name of the contributor come out, the person who had raised this money, and he had had some discussion with him. What other discussions--I know, he had met with Mr. Ehrlichman On countless occasions. [01.08.29] Mr. DASH. Did Mr. Kalmbach over tell you to your knowledge that Mr. Ehrlichman had indicated that the President had approved these payments? Mr. DEAN. Did Mr. Kalmbach tell me? Mr. DASH. Yes. Mr. DEAN. 'No, he, did not. Mr. DASH, Did you learn in any other way? Mr. DEAN-. No, not that I recall. Mr. DASH. In your exhibit No. 34-47. Mr. Dean, you list Mr. Stans. I think you pretty -well identified a number of the 'others and I think it may be interesting to the committee, Mr. Stans having testified before the committee, why you listed his name. This was a list, to recall it for you, that you put certain markings by those who were lawyers. This was a list of those you thought had problems as far as criminal charges. Why was Mr. Stans put on your list? [01.09.24]
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (2/2)
[01.09.24-DEAN discusses why he thought CRP finance chairman Maurice STANS might have criminal problems with WATERGATE] Mr. DEAN. Well; this was based on--first of all, you will note on the list I have question marks beside certain people. On some of those people, I knew what I knew, I knew what evidence I had in my mind of their own involvement. I didn't know about Stans, I didn't know how involved he had or had not been. For that reason, I put a question mark beside his name because I hadn't had any direct dealings with him that would indicate it, but there were certain circumstantial situations and I was not sure. So that is why the question marks on some of these. [01.10.09] Mr. DASH. Now, Mr. Dean, just going back very briefly to the testimony concerning the $15,200 which had been given to you by Mr. Strachan, Mr. Howard and Mr. Strachan, that you put in your Safe. And the fact that you had taken from that an amount of about $4,800 Mr. DEAN. $4,850. Mr. DASH. $4,850 for your own personal use? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. DASH. I think this has not been brought out in the testimony and I would like to ask you this question. [01.10.43] Can you tell the committee when was the first time you told anybody about your removing $4,850? Mr. DEAN. When I first went, to my lawyer, sometime shortly after I had gotten through an explanation of all the facts that I knew, I got into this particular problem and raised that with him. Mr. DASH. Therefore, he was the first one in the world, so to speak, who first learned about your doing that? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. [01.11.16-DASH repudiates GURNEY'S tactic of beating the dead horse of what DEAN did with the campaign money in his trust, establishes that DEAN was not being deceitful with respect to the money] Mr. DASH. If you had -wanted to conceal that--if you were, interested in, using the, term that has been used here, embezzle', if you had wanted to conceal your use of that money, could you not just, as well, before telling your lawyer about that, have replaced that money and told your lawyer that you had $15,200 in the safe? Mr. DEAN. Yes, I could have. Mr. DASH. Why, then, did you tell your lawyer about it? Mr. DEAN. Because I thought that would be an untruthful thing to do and I thought I would tell him the facts the way they were. Mr. Dash, I might also add that I asked my lawyer to go to the Government with this information right away, so they knew that. Mr. DASH. Mr. Dean, I think it is important that we discuss that and the fact that your lawyer and you opened up a trustee account and deposited the full $15,200, which -was the balance left, in the, safe of the cash plus your own personal check of $4,850, which you replaced the original check with, so that you made it whole. Mr. Chairman. I would like to give some photostatic copies we have of that transaction to Mr., Dean if he could identify them for us. Mr. DEAN'. You want me to identify these for the record? Mr. DASH. Would you, for the record?, Mr. DEAN. This document, dated April 24, is a, letter from Mr. Shaffer. Another document is a chock dated April 12, 1973, written out to Mr. Hogan and Mr. Shaffer, trustees, for $4,850, and signed by myself. There IS a, receipt written out. by Mr. Shaffer of that, amount--no, it is for the full amount, I take that back. I can't even read the -writing here. It indicates the full amount. There is a cashier's check written out for $10.350. Mr. DASH. What does that cashier's check represent? Mr. DEAN. It is drawn on the Suburban Trust Co. It represents the cash that was deposited at that account. There are, signature cards that were Prepared with Mr. Hogan being stricken and Mr. McKeever being replaced on that as a trustee as a result of Mr. Hogan having to withdraw from the case, for other reasons. Then there are additional signature cards. It looks like on the next document, there is a repeat of the earlier document for the Suburban Trust check. The numbers are the same at the top, so we have already identified that, check. Then there is a subsequently issued check when Mr. Hogan withdrew from the case and it was necessary to put Mr. McKeever on a new check so that a new check drawn by me to the order of Mr. Shaffer and Mr. McKeever for $4,850. The next appears to be endorsements on the back of these checks; and a, signature card. Mr. DASH. Will you read the letter for the committee, please? [01.15.26]
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (2/2)
[01.15.26-the letter demonstrates the legitimacy of the trustee account set up to house the campaign money in DEAN'S care] Mr. DEAN. [Reads:] DEAR GARNETT. Enclosed you will find; (1) client's check dated April 20, 1973, numbered 1647 payable to the order of myself and Mr. McKeever as Trustees in the amount of $4,850.00 which we have suitably endorsed to the Bank : (2) the Bank's Treasurer's check dated April 19, 1973, in the amount of $10,350.000 covering the cash I delivered to you for safekeeping on Friday, April 13, 1973, pending the opening of an account, and (3) the two signature cards signed by Mr. Dean, myself and my partner, McKeever. As you know, when we first discussed opening the account I contemplated that Thomas Hogan, Esquire, would be co-trustee with myself inasmuch as he then also represented Mr. Dean. However, subsequent developments (conflict of interest) have required Mr. Hogan to withdraw from the representation and, accordingly my partner, McKeever, is acting as co-trustee. This change also required Mr. Dean to substitute his enclosed check numbered 1647 for his check numbered 1643 originally payable to Mr. Hogan and my-self as Trustees. I have had Mr. Dean void the latter check by tearing his signature therefrom and it remains in our files. Should you be inquired of by competent authorities as to the opening of this account, please tell them all you know, including whatever I have told you. Thank you for your cooperation in the matter. Sincerely, SHAFFER, McKEEVER & FITZPATRICK. [01.17.21] Mr. DASH. Who is it addressed to? Mr. DEAN. Garnett Inscoe, Suburban Trust Co., 255 North Washington St., Rockville, Md., April 4, 1973, Mr. DASH. Chairman. I would like to have that identified and introduced into the record, Senator ERVIN. That will be. done. The. reporter will number it appropriately as an exhibit and receive It into the record as such. Mr. DASH. Mr. Dean, I don't know whether--- [01.17.48] Mr. SHAFFER. Mr. Chairman, there is one statement I could make with respect to one of those documents that would clarify what I think would be confusing. I would be glad to do it under oath or off oath and if any member of your committee objects to me making a statement and you rule that I can't, I won't, but I would like to. It relates to the Suburban Trust treasurer's check. May I make the statement?, Senator ERVIN. Is there any objection from any member of the committee? [No response.] Senator ERVIN. Suppose you stand up and I will administer the oath. Do you swear that the. evidence you shall give the Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities shall be the truth, the, whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mr. SHAFFER. I do. STATEMENT OF CHARLES N. SHAFFER, ESQ., COUNSEL TO JOHN DEAN III Mr. SHAFFER. Mr. Chairman, after my client had given me the cash and a current check made payable to me and Hogan, and after I had gone to the Government with the. currency so that they could look at the-- Xerox it, do whatever they wanted -with it, I got to the bank. I was carrying it around about a day. I was a little uncomfortable. I got to the, bank about 2:05 on a Friday, and it was in April. It was, I believe, in early April. The records will show; the receipt there will date it. And I knocked on Mr. Inscoe's window and he came around to the door and he opened it up, because he knows me. My law office, is right near the, bank. I have a very small account there, and he treats me as a good customer, nevertheless. I said, Garnett, I have got all this cash, and I don't want to have it over the weekend; will you take it? So he said, yes, he would take it and he, would give me, a receipt. Then on Monday and Tuesday, -we were having trouble with Mr. Hogan and his conflict-of-interest problem, and we never got the signature cards back, and finally, Garnett, said, "Look, I can't hold this cash around here forever. I am going to give you a treasurer check at the bank so I can then pass the currency through the account." That is how this treasurer's check came into being. Thank you. If anybody wants to cross-examine me, I -will be glad to answer questions. Senator BAKER. Mr. Shaffer, no, I don't want to cross-examine you, but I can't resist the temptation to let the record note, that you claim and continue, to stand on and have not waived the attorney-client privilege. Mr. SHAFFER. Thank You. I appreciate the comment. [01.20.20]
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (2/2)
[01.20.20-DASH questioning DEAN about the CLEMENCY agreement and keeping McCORD silent] Mr. DASH. Mr. Dean.' on page 202 of your statement, you state, down toward the bottom, "Mr. Mitchell raised the fact that F. Lee Bailey, who had been very helpful In dealing ling 'with McCord" had a, problem---what are the, details, or what to your knowledge was meant by Mr. F. Lee Bailey, who had been helpful in dealing with McCord, from Mr. Mitchell's point? [Testimony of John W. Dean III, continued.'] Mr. DEAN. Well, I believe, I testified to this fact earlier, Mr. Dash. There was one point when Mr. Alch apparently was not having, full rapport with his client, Mr. McCord, that an arrangement or discussion was to be had. I testified, I believe, I didn't know that in fact that had occurred, in -which Mr. Mitchell was going to Call Mr. Bailey. Mr. Bailey was going to fly in or call or visit with 'Mr. McCord and promised Mr. McCord that, he would represent his case on April and at that, time to the highest court in the, land, if necessary. That was what the, reference is to. [01.21.37] Mr. DASH. 'NOW. I don't know whether you fully replied to Senator Montoya's question when he asked the, question that concerned the President's news conference of August 29. 19-12. and the question had been put, to the President: Mr. President, wouldn't it be a good idea for a special prosecutor, even from your standpoint to be appointed to investigate the contribution situation and also the Watergate case? The, President: With regard to who is investigating it now, I think it would be well to notice that the FBI is conducting a full field investigation. The Department of Justice of course, is in charge of the prosecution and presenting the matter to the grand jury. The Senate Banking and Currency Committee is conducting an investigation. [01.22.20] Now. Can you identify who the President meant, for Senator Montoya, when he was referring to the Senate Banking and Currency Committee also conducting an investigation? Mr. DEAN, That was a known fact that the Patman committee 'was-- Mr. DASH. That was the Patman committee ? Mr. DEAN-. Yes; correct. Mr. DASH. And here the President -was responding that the Patman committee was making an investigation? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. DASH. But, in fact. when the President was making that statement was the White House strategy to halt the Patman committee Investigation? Mr. DEAN. It was to try to impede that investigation. Mr. DASH. Mr. Dean, in your statement, page 101, you state that the lawyers at the reelection committee Were hopeful of slowing down the Democratic National Committee suit. as a result of ex parte contacts with the judge. What was the extent and source Of your information on the Subject? Mr. DEAN. I first learned of this in a meeting "In Mr. Mitchell's office, in which I was told that there were some arrangements had been made to' have somebody. at that time I did not know who. talk with Judge Richey about the problems the case presented for the reelection committee and potentially for the White House. without getting into specifics with the I later learned and was present when Mr. McFee had a direct discussion With -Mr. Mitchell about this subject, and fact that he was going to go visit with the judge, and then as late March 2 of this year, Mr. McFee to my office--not to my Office,, he came to have lunch with me at the White House and told me that, very weekend he -was going to go take up a matter which he said Kenny, referring to Ken Parkinson, had was an aspect of the case that he -was concerned about, so there were several people, I think, who wereaware of this. I think Mr. LaRue was aware of it; I think Mr. Mitchell was aware of it. Mr. DASH. Did you have personal knowledge of that other than what you had been told? Mr. DEAN. 'Only what I was told directly by Mr. McFee, that he in fact, was going to visit the judge. I was not present at any meetings with the judge.; no, sir. [01.24.36] Mr. DASH. Do you know that at a hearing on September 21, 1972, before Judge Charles R. Richey, the judge to whom the case was assigned, that counsel for the plaintiffs, the Democratic National Committee, agreed as a practical matter that the case could not be tried before the election? Did you know that? Mr. DEAN. I did not follow the civil cases at all to speak of, other than just general awareness; I was probably aware of that at the time, but I do not know-I know there were countless meetings with Judge Richey with all counsel present. In fact, virtually every meeting he had directly relating to the case he would call all counsel and all interested parties. The meetings I am referring to did not involve all counsel. [01.25.27] Mr. DASH. Do you know at the same hearing that the judge ruled that depositions should cease to be taken for the time being on the, ground that the taking of depositions might jeopardize the pending criminal case? Mr. DEAN. I was aware of the fact that about that time that the depositions had been cut off temporarily anyway. [01.25.49]
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (2/2)
[01.25.49-DEAN is interrogated by DASH about the covering up of the DNC civil suit investigation] Mr. DASH. Are you personally familiar with any of the other rulings of Judge Richey that were made during the pendency of the, Democratic National Committee case that occurred prior to the election? Mr. DEAN. No, I am not. Mr. DASH. As a matter of fact, you have no other knowledge, really of that matter other than what Mr. Parkinson or other lawyers told' you about that? Mr. DEAN. That at is correct. [01.26.12-DASH asks whether it's conceivable or at all possible that NIXON was joking about the $ 1 million payoff to keep the Watergate BURGLARS silent] Mr. DASH. NOW, you indicated that on April 15, meeting with the President, the, President in bringing up the question of the, million-dollar discussion, told you that he was joking. When he first mentioned that to you, Mr. Dean, did he, indicate in any Way that he was joking, or did you understand him to be joking? Mr. DEAN. No, sir, I did not understand him to be joking. he repeated it twice, and indicated that there would be no problem to raise $1 million. He looked over at Mr. Haldeman and raised the same matter, and was very confident that $1 million was nothing to raise at all. When he reraised it, on the 15th, when he said he was just joking, I would have to characterize his characterization as being a rather nervous laughter kind of, "I -was just joking." [01.27.13-DISCUSSION OF TAPE RECORDING OF CONVERSATIONS] Mr. DASH. I think you testified. and you may have given us information on this, that you believe, that April 15 meeting with the President was taped and that, you were being asked leading questions. Have you ever asked the White House if you were taped, or any official of the White House? Mr. DEAN. I raked it with my lawyer, and I do not know whether he raised this with the prosecutors or not, but after I was told that I had been taped---- Mr. DASH. Who told you, Mr. Dean? Mr. DEAN. My lawyer, Mr. Shaffer, told me, that he had received word from the prosecutors that I had been taped, and I thought there was only One Occasion when that could have occurred that I was aware of where, I had a direct conversation with the President, because, all the, circumstances seem to indicate that, and that was on this April 15 meeting. -Now, I do not know for a fact whether he was or was not taped, but suggested that the Government might want to listen to that tape because if the they listened to that tape, they would have some idea of the dimensions of what was involved. [01.28.11] Mr. DASH. Mr. Dean, I want to refer to exhibit -No. and this is the exhibit that has first a memorandum from Mr. Charles Colson to you, reference Howard Hunt. The memorandum itself also includes a short memorandum from W. Richard Howard, who, as I understand, was Mr. Colson's assistant; am I not correct? Mr. Howard was Mr. Colson's assistant, was he not? Mr. DEAN. That is correct, yes. I have your exhibit now. Mr. DASH. All right. On that March 30 memorandum from Mr. Howard on the second paragraph the opening line is "Howard", meaning Howard Hunt. "has been very effective for Have you an understanding what he meant by that? It is a memorandum for Bruce Kehrli. Mr. DEAN. No, No, I do not. I am not fully familiar other than what some of the things that I recall and I have recalled to this Committee that I saw in the files of Mr. Hunt's that related to Mr. Colson that in fact, he had a close relationship with Mr. Colson. Mr. DASH, What was your understanding of the "us" in that, "Howard Hunt has been very effective for us;' Mr. DEAN. That would be a reference to Mr., Colson and Mr. Howard and Mr. Colson's general office. Mr. DASH. Would you look at exhibit -No. 34-37? This exhibit dated February 28, 1973. which has the heading Administrative Confidential is for Larry Higby and John Dean and is from Jerry Jones. Who is Jerry Jones? Mr. DEAN. He is the head of the personnel office, and I might add that while this was addressed to me it took me several days to get this memorandum, It did not come directly to me, and I finally got the Copy I had after having to make several calls to get the copy So that the memorandum really was not directly to me and I think I did not, get, an original, rather I got a Xerox.
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (2/2)
[01.30.45-DASH interrogates DEAN about efforts to find MAGRUDER a job to prevent him from talking to the prosecution] Mr. DASH. Now, the subject matter says what "Options for Jeb Magruder." Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. DASH. What was it all about? Why was this memorandum written, and what do they mean by options for Jeb Magruder? Mr. DEAN Well, it was shortly before this time that Mr. Magruder had been making some statements to Mr. O'Brien which I had in turn relayed to Mr. Haldeman. These statements were to the effect that Mr. Haldeman--that he, was aware of Mr. Haldeman's involvement in certain aspects of the pre-April or pre-June 17 aspects of the, Watergate, and he was indicating to Mr. O'Brien that, in fact, it was his understanding that the President might. have had knowledge, of this. When I reported this back to Mr. Haldeman, the interest in finding Mr. Magruder a job increased about tenfold old, and this is the product of that. Mr. DASH. Then it -would fair to characterize this memorandum as a memorandum to show what could be done for Jeb Magruder to help him out in that case? Mr. DEAN. That is right. [01.31.51] Mr. DASH. As a matter of fact, let me read to you the opening part of that memorandum which indicates that perhaps some pressure might have to be brought to get him a job. "Listed below are nine possible options for Jeb. Some will break more, china to secure than others. Where there are problems I have so noted them." What is your interpretation of "some will break more china than others?" Mr. DEAN. I do not know exactly. That could mean one of many things, that, the given head of an agency might have had a various level of tolerance for the White House continuing to place people in their agencies. It could mean that people would want to know about Magruder's awareness which I do not know if Mr. Jones had any awareness that Mr. Magruder had problems, but whether Mr. Higby had related that to them or not, I certainly did -not so it is very hard for me, to interpret exactly what that phrase, means; and I think only Mr. Jones can testify what he meant by that. Mr. DASH. I think it is fair for the record of this committee to clarify here. Is it your testimony that Mr. Jerry Jones, -who had been asked to prepare this memorandum and seek- out these, options, did not himself,. of your knowledge, know what Mr. Magruder's problems were or know anything about, the Watergate coverup? [01.33.14] Mr. DEAN. Not to my knowledge. In fact, when I was talking about this with Higby before, Mr. Jon knowledge prepared this, one of the jobs I had heard of after talking -with Jeb that he might be interested in was the job that ended, up as No. 1, which was the assistant to the Secretary or Deputy Undersecretary of Commerce for Policy Development. And apparently Mr. Higby relayed that on to Mr. Jones. No. I do not know when I first heard of that at I job but, I did, did, when Magruder came by I mentioned I heard of that job and he expressed Immediate interest in it. [01.33.57] Mr. DASH. Mr. Dean, you testified you were. asked by Mr. MacGregor to tell him the true you facts and that you testified that you checked 'with Mr. Ehrlichman and Ehrlichman said no that you should not tell Mr. MacGregor the true facts. Do you recall what Mr. MacGregor's reaction was when you refused to tell him the true facts, or how did you handle that? Mr. DEAN. Well, what I did was I gave him the most evasive song and dance I could to weave, him through the problems he was going to have down there, and I recall that as soon as Mr. MacGregor would have a press conference that people at the White House who hit the ceiling because he would say something that would created more problems than it would solve, and I felt very sorry for Mr. MacGregor because he did not know what he should say and what he should not say and he had been given a lot of assurances that -were assurances he should not have been given, and I think, I am sure I am not the only one he, asked for assurances, I am sure, he asked others for assurances and was given them, that there, was nothing to be concerned about, [01.35.10] Mr. DASH, You have also testified, Mr. Dean, that after the President's August 29 speech, and that is the speech of the so-called Dean report of no White House involvement, that you discussed with Mr. Moore. and others the Possibility of your becoming----- [01.35.20-TAPE OUT]
Auto Assembly
100-1 Car on road, construction shots, construction of Chrysler Plant, misc. shots of construction, Entry to Chrysler, shots in lathe facility, Kokomo Indiana plant (map of Indiana), misc. shots in plant (20:01 - 21:44) 100-2 Body panel press, rough finishing, body sanding (21:46 - 22:04) 100-3 conveyor, chassis line (22:04 - 22:27) 100-4 Chassis assembly, body assembly, body dipping, gutter trimming, body sealing, body painting, time data recorder, body sanding, wet and dry sanding, paint shop, drying paint, two tone finish, body storage (22:28 - 24:18) 100-5 Cab assembly (24:18 - 25:30) 100-6 Doghouse assembly (25:31 - 26:33) 100-7 Trim assembly (26:33 - 26:44) 100-8 Engine Installation (26:45 - 26:57) 100-9 Crankshaft line (26:58 - 27:14) 100-10 Dashboard Assembly (27:15 - 27:24) 100-11 Inner Trunk Assembly (27:25 - 27:36) 100-12 Small Parts Assembly (27:37 - 27:52) 100-13 Design Plant, engineers work on clay model, CUS of gears in gearbox (great) (27:55 - 31:00)
Cars on Display (Can 1 of 2)
110-1 Auto show unveiling, parade, misc. shots cars on display (31:00 - 32:22) 110-2 Product line shot (32:24 - 32:54) 110-3 Belvedere beauty shot (on display in park) (32:57 - 33:17) 110-4 Promo Montage, misc. interior, montage (33:18 - 34:12) 110-5 Cars move in circle on display (34:12 - 34:32) 110-6 Insert CU of car interior and exterior (34:35 - 36:22) 110-7 Old Chrysler on display (36:34 - 37:13) 110-8 Car arrives at Hotel (37:15 - 37:42) 110-9 Car from house on street and highway (37:44 - 38:08) 110-10 Car from house (38:09 - 38:32) 110-11 Car down driveway (38:33 - 38:46) 110-12 Car picks up men at hotel (38:47 - 39:06) 110-13 Car to building, people looking (39:07 - 39:32) 110-14 Car to mansion (39:33 - 39:46) 110-15 Car on estate to house (39:47 - 40:07) 110-16 Car from airplane and from street to home (40:09 - 41:10)
The Porter Wagoner Show No. 328 Promo
The Porter Wagoner Show No. 328 Nashville, Tennessee The Porter Wagoner Show No. 328 Promo. Jimmy Dickens performs excerpt of "I'm Little But I'm Loud"
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (1/2)
[00.02.00-Sam DASH, pursuing a pointed line of questioning, asking John DEAN about efforts to keep Jeb MAGRUDER from breaking ranks with the coverup by finding him a government job] Mr. DASH. ----I have so noted them." What is your interpretation of "some will break more china than others?" Mr. DEAN. I do not know exactly. That could mean one of many things, that, the given head of an agency might have had a various level of tolerance for the White House continuing to place people in their agencies. It could mean that people would want to know about Magruder's awareness which I do not know if Mr. Jones had any awareness that Mr. Magruder had problems, but whether Mr. Higby had related that to them or not, I certainly did -not so it is very hard for me, to interpret exactly what that phrase, means; and I think only Mr. Jones can testify what he meant by that. Mr. DASH. I think it is fair for the record of this committee to clarify here. Is it your testimony that Mr. Jerry Jones, -who had been asked to prepare this memorandum and seek- out these, options, did not himself,. of your knowledge, know what Mr. Magruder's problems were or know anything about, the Watergate coverup? [00.03.06] Mr. DEAN. Not to my knowledge. In fact, when I was talking about this with Higby before, Mr. Jon knowledge prepared this, one of the jobs I had heard of after talking -with Jeb that he might be interested in was the job that ended, up as No. 1, which was the assistant to the Secretary or Deputy Undersecretary of Commerce for Policy Development. And apparently Mr. Higby relayed that on to Mr. Jones. No. I do not know when I first heard of that at I job but, I did, did, when Magruder came by I mentioned I heard of that job and he expressed Immediate interest in it. [00.03.48-testimony about misinforming Clark MacGREGOR, MITCHELL'S replacement at CRP] Mr. DASH. Mr. Dean, you testified you were. asked by Mr. MacGregor to tell him the true you facts and that you testified that you checked 'with Mr. Ehrlichman and Ehrlichman said no that you should not tell Mr. MacGregor the true facts. Do you recall what Mr. MacGregor's reaction was when you refused to tell him the true facts, or how did you handle that? Mr. DEAN. Well, what I did was I gave him the most evasive song and dance I could to weave, him through the problems he was going to have down there, and I recall that as soon as Mr. MacGregor would have a press conference that people at the White House who hit the ceiling because he would say something that would created more problems than it would solve, and I felt very sorry for Mr. MacGregor because he did not know what he should say and what he should not say and he had been given a lot of assurances that -were assurances he should not have been given, and I think, I am sure I am not the only one he, asked for assurances, I am sure, he asked others for assurances and was given them, that there, was nothing to be concerned about, [00.04.57] Mr. DASH, You have also testified, Mr. Dean, that after the President's August 29 speech, and that is the speech of the so-called Dean report of no White House involvement, that you discussed with Mr. Moore. and others the Possibility of your becoming a fall guy. Now, how could you meaningfully discuss it with Mr. Moore without Mr. Moore having all the facts? Did Mr. Moore have the facts at that time? Mr. DEAN. Not at that time. I--it was long after that that I began--I do not recall exactly when. when I first started discussing this, as I recall, I was discussing it with Mr. Fielding and I thought that If this statement crumbles, I crumble with it. I am the man who is out in front saying that everybody is clean, and this is something I did not exactly want, and that is why I began to talk to people about: Am I being put out in front? I can recall discussing it, with Mr. Mitchell at the time, and he assured me, he told me, his answer Was, "If you ever see any sign of that, please tell me because I Will speak directly -with the President." [00.06.08] Mr. DASH. Now, Mr. Dean. you testified, of course quite at length this week, first a full day of statement and then all these days of examination, cross-examination. But I think in the course of your testimony you have made It fairly clear that you have. had experience both in the legislative branch and the executive branch and very full experience in this unfortunate occurrence- which was the coverup of the Watergate and perhaps some complicity in the Watergate itself. Now, a major reason for this committee sitting and hearing all these facts certainly is not that of a prosecutor but of a committee of the Senate in order to come forward with legislative recommendations and, especially in this case, recommendations to prevent this kind of thing from ever happening again in this country. You were a major and key figure in so many intimate parts of this massive coverup and activity which became the Watergate scandal and coverup. Can you give this committee any recommendation either now in brief, and later in writing to the committee, which can assist this committee in formulating its recommendation to the Congress so that this kind of thing can never happen again in our country? [00.07.30]
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[00.07.30-DEAN answers DASH's question, how can the Watergate fiasco from being repeated] Mr. DEAN. Mr. Dash, I am quite aware of the fact that the purpose of this committee is legislative, and you are looking for answers to problems and that the man who has been right in the middle of those problems, and right in the middle of the White House for quite a while and has seen the way things have operated down in the executive branch. I have given this considerable thought, and with the permission of the chairman and the committee what I would like to do at some point, because I have made some rather lengthy notes as I have thought about this, over the last several months, as to potential legislative steps that might be taken by this committee under consideration, that I feel might provide some answers to preventing this sort of thing from occurring again and I would like to submit that at a subsequent date to the committee rather than go on to hat would be a rather extensive discussion of legislative remedies. Mr. DASH. Thank you, Mr. Dean, I have no further questions, Mr. Chairman. Senator ERVIN. Mr. Thompson. [00.08.43] Mr. THOMPSON. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I might add since the document which I dictated subsequent to my conversation with Mr. Buzhardt has been made part of the record that it was submitted to me with the understanding that it would be made available for committee use. There was no discussion as to exactly how that document or the subsequent document that I might prepare would be used, although there was certainly no limitation in any manner as to how it might be used. I might also add there was no discussion as to the source of the information which Mr. Buzhardt was imparting to me but that it was one lawyer's position to another lawyer. [00.09.25-the QUESTION is whether DEAN met with McCORD'S lawyer, and what DEAN knew of clemency offers to keep McCORD silent] Mr. Dean, you have testified and referring to your statement on page 144, that you had a meeting with Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Mitchell, and Mr. Alch. Mr. Alch has testified. Mr. DEAN. Mr. Alch, I never met with Mr. Alch, I am sorry, I am trying to get to that page. Mr. THOMPSON. I am sorry, you are right, it was a report of the meeting. I will relate the portion I am referring to, "Sometime during this period that as a result of my report of Caulfield meeting with McCord that O'Brien, Mitchell, and Alch discussed having F. Lee Bailey meet with McCord, et cetera." I assume then that discussion was not in your presence either? Mr. DEAN. 'That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. Do you know Mr. Alch's relationship with either Mr. O'Brien or Mr. Mitchell at that time? Mr. DEAN. No, I do not. Mr. THOMPSON. Do you know why he was present at that particular meeting at that time? Mr. DEAN. It is my understanding that Mr. O'Brien--I am not sure Mr. Mitchell was present, I have not seen the paragraph you are referring to. Mr. THOMPSON. The first full paragraph. Mr. DEAN. On page 145 of my testimony? Mr. THOMPSON. 144. That O'Brien, 'Mitchell, and Mr. Alch discussed having F. Lee Bailey, I assume that as a discussion, one discussion with all these gentlemen present? Mr. DEAN. Well, this is what, I am referring to -here, if you read it is that there 'Was sometime during this period that as a result of my reports., of Caulfield's meetings -with McCord, that O'Brien, Mitchell and Alch discussed. That does not indicate a meeting, and I am not aware of any meeting. Mr. THOMPSON. I see. Mr. DEAN, It is intercommunication among these individuals that I am referring to, and I was not directly privy to any of these but I had a general misunderstanding that Mr. O'Brien had request Contacts with Mr. Alch, and he, in turn, would report back to Mr. Mitchell, am -not aware of any contact between Mr. Mitchell and Mr. Alch. Mr. THOMPSON. I see. SO you assume that your information was from Mr. O'Brien and that he had gotten his information directly from Mr. Alch? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. That is your assumption. [00.11.44-THOMPSON asks DEAN more questions about the finances of the COVERUP] Let me ask you this: About this $350,000 of which you received $15,200, did I understand You to say that you understood that part of this money came from the 1970 congressional campaign? Mr. DEAN. My understanding was that the money came from the 1968 primaries. Mr. THOMPSON. 1968 primaries? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. Do you know what particular route that money traveled in order to get from those primary campaigns to the Committee To Re-Elect? Mr. DEAN. To the best of my recollection what I was told is that it went to New York during 1968, was kept in safety deposit, boxes in New York, it subsequently came from safety, deposit boxes in New York to safety deposit boxes in Washington, Mr. THOMPSON. In whose custody was it in New York? Mr. DEAN. I believe it was in Mr. Kalmbach's custody in New York but I don't have the actual facts as to who had the actual safety deposit boxes. Mr. THOMPSON. Would it, not be, appropriate for that money to have gone to the, congressional campaign committee? Mr. DEAN. The 1968 primary money? Mr. THOMPSON. Yes. Mr. DEAN. Mr. Thompson, I was not making any decisions in 1968 about that money. [00.13.14]
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Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (1/2)
[00.13.14-THOMPSON asks DEAN about the financing of the coverup] Mr. THOMPSON. I am not holding you accountable. This is strictly a collateral matter, it is a matter that you -wound up with money in your safe or perhaps a part, of it, or the Committee To Re-Elect wound up with money that they were using, according to some of the testimony we have had, in paying, these, defendants. Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. I was -wondering for my own information where that money should have gone after the 1968 primaries were over; in whose custody it -was. Mr. DEAN. Well, I gather what, the intention -was after the 1968 primaries and the 1968 general election that there was, I recall a figure of $1.9 million being left. Now, I am sure your committee, investigators, are, trying to reconstruct the totality of this cash, and I don't know what happened to all that money. I know -Mr. Kalmbach told me what happened to some, of it, and some of it, was spent for polling that I mentioned earlier today, that some of it was spent for payment to Mr. Wallace's opponent's campaign, and the remainder of it was still surplus money. Now there was other surplus money that came in from the 1970 campaign. congressional campaign effort that apparently was kept separate also is my understanding but. you know, I am not intimately familiar with these details at all. [00.14.39] Mr. THOMPSON. Where did you get your information concerning the money going to Mr. Wallace's opponent? Mr. DEAN. From Mr. Kalmbach. Mr. THOMPSON. 'Mr. Kalmbach told you that? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. Did he indicate he had personal dealings in that matter? Mr. DEAN. Yes, he did. Mr. THOMPSON. What did he say exactly about that.? Mr. DEAN. He indicated to me that he had made a disbursement of the surplus money to a-he, didn't give, me the mechanics of it, to that purpose. Mr. THOMPSON. Who was Mr. Wallace's opponent at that time? Mr. DEAN. I think it was Mr. Brewer, as I recall. Mr. THOMPSON. Governor Brewer. And he said what, excuse me. Mr. DEAN. That money had gone to that campaign from these funds. Mr. THOMPSON. Did he. indicate whether there were. any intermediaries in that particular transaction? Mr. DEAN. This discussion was, I guess it was, in late. February of this year, in which he was recounting to me generally what had happened to the money he had had in his custody because he was trying to reconstruct in his own mind. Apparently he had no records at this point in time, and he was trying to reconstruct the areas that he could recall as to how the disbursements of the money that had come from" New York had traveled. And this is all, I just recall this point sticking in my mind as one of the things he said. [00.16.10] Mr. THOMPSON. Did he, indicate that money had gone to any other Democratic candidates? Mr. DEAN. I -am not sure that Mr. Brower was a, Democratic candidate was he? Mr. THOMPSON. Well, he was. Mr. DEAN. Was he a Democratic candidate? Mr. THOMPSON. He was Governor of Alabama. Mr. DEAN. Well, I am not familiar with what--I know there was an extensive fundraising effort in the 1970 congressional campaign and the records of those fundraising efforts and the disbursements as well came up in another conversation with another interrogation by the committee. Those records, to the best -of my knowledge are still in a safe in Mr. Fielding's custody. They have never been reviewed or read by anybody in my office. They were placed in that safe with those instructions no one Was to read them. We were given these records by Mr. Colson, and I, as I recall, Mr. Colson had collected the records from Mr. Gleason, who was also involved in this activity at this time. [00.17.22-THOMPSON asks DEAN more questions about the his personal use of the funds entrusted to him] Mr. THOMPSON. Mr. Dean, let me leave that and -ask you a few questions concerning the $4,850 which you took from the safe. As I understand it, the reason you took that money instead of using your personal funds was that time in effect had run out on you and You had failed to go to the New York accounts you had, would that be your stock accounts? [00.17.44] Mr. DEAN. That is correct. I had not only forgotten to take care, of money matters, I had forgotten to get a-it wasn't I had forgotten, I had gotten too consumed to get wedding music, I had forgotten to get a minister or a judge to handle the proceedings, and it was general bit of panic there, in the final hours. I might say. Mr. THOMPSON. The, chairman presented to you a statement from the Shearson and Hamill Co. of your stock account, I believe, yesterday, do you happen to have a copy of that with you? I have two extra copies here if that would expedite matters any. [00.18.44]
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] [00.18.44-title screen "SENATE HEARINGS ON CAMPAIGN ACTIVITIES-PBS network ID-title screen] [00.22.09-LEHRER] LEHRER introduces the final hour of DEAN'S testimony, states that Fred THOMPSON has questions about campaign money. [00.22.24-DEAN, checking briefcase for a document pertaining to THOMPSON'S query about DEAN'S finances and use of funds entrusted to him] Mr. DEAN. No, I don't have a copy, I am sorry. Mr. THOMPSON. This is a matter of confusion to me, I believe you indicated yesterday that you had a $26,167 credit. Is that not--the Copy is not, clear. Mr. DEAN. May I say something about these documents? I had a standard practice of not opening these, in fact originally they were not even Sent, to me, they were, sent to my ex-wife's house whore they remained and I would collect them in bulk, unopened and take them to my secretary and she, would just, file them. This Is a margin account we are talking about and I have not a lot, of expertise In the market. The arrangements I had with my broker is that he had a total discretion in all handling of all trading. I would sign at the outset of all, I think periodically he would send me a shoot to sign that he would have total discretion on all trades. I have never been able to fully interpret these, sheets so that is why I hope somebody else can look at them to do the interpretation when I turn all this information over to the committee. [00.24.00] Mr. THOMPSON. Would it be accurate to say that is a debit instead of a credit? Mr. DEAN-. Well, I don't--I think what it indicates to me is that-it is a credit, I am sure there were at least $26,000, in fact I am sure there is more than $26,000 in the account. Mr. THOMPSON. Could it possibly be, that, that was a debit but the value of your stock at that time was such that if you sold your stock you would have a $20-something thousand credit? Mr. DEAN-. Well. I think that if you were to--when your investigators do an entire audit of this entire matter which is of interest to you, that they will find that there were ample, funds including more than $26,000. 1 think this indicates merely one transaction that had occurred in this period of time. Mr. THOMPSON. So you had ample funds there to take care of the honeymoon expenses? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. I believe You stated that you placed some, of the, money back at one time and then you took some money out again later? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. Again you did not go to your stock account although you had, as you say $20,000 either in stock value or readily available cash whichever that might be. Was this again because you had forgotten to do that or -why didn't you go to the stock account on that occasion? [00.25.35-DEAN answers the question extremely bluntly] Mr. DEAN. It was merely a matter of convenience. I had already made some use of the funds, and I merely decided to make more use of them, [Conferring with counsel.] Mr. THOMPSON. You 'received in what, June of 1972? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON-. And then you took $4,850 on October 11 of 1972. The remaining what, $10,350, did you ever use any of this money for any other purposes? Mr. DEAN. The other cash that was in there? Mr. THOMPSON. Yes. Mr. DEAN. As I said when I-at one time I recall I put some money back in, and I could have very -well at that time commingled other money that I had. I sometimes did carry cash with me, and I have told the committee I will do my best to go through my entire records and reconstruct this, with the committee investigators. [00.26.37]
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[01.13.41-DEAN tries to make a closing statement] Mr. Chairman, just to close, and I will be very brief, I have sought to provide this committee---- Senator ERVIN. One question on this. Mr. DEAN. Certainly. Senator ERVIN. -You stated that there, was an attempt at the White House and the, Committee To Re-Elect the, President, to prevent, the Patman committee from investigating that? Mr. DEAN. That, is correct, Mr. Chairman. Senator ERVIN. And the Patman committee did, at least a majority of them did refuse to investigate it? Mr. DEAN. That, is correct. Senator ERVIN. So regardless of motives, it had the same effect as what the White House and the committee were trying to do? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Senator ERVIN. But of course a Congressman has got a, perfect right to vote his convictions . That is his function. Mr. DEAN. I have sought to provide this information with all the facts and information that I know regarding this matter, to answer all of the questions that have been asked of me, and to hide nothing of my own involvement, in this matter, and Provide the truth as I know it. [01.14.55] This has been most difficult for me because I have had to speak against the President of the United States, some of my friends, and some Of my former colleagues, I attempted to end this coverup initially working within the White House, and when that didn't work, I took it, upon myself to work from without, and I earnestly pray that this committee reaches the truth in this entire matter and reaches it as quickly as possible because I think there is a terrible Cloud over this Government that must be removed so that so that we can have effective government. I thank the committee for the many courtesies that they have provided me in assisting me to get to and from the hearing room and Me available space during the breaks and the recesses and thoughtfulness Of the staff in that regard. Senator ERVIN. Without expressing any opinion about your testimony or the way of your testimony, I do think that you do deserve the thanks of the committee for the patience which you have exhibited. It, has been quite a trial, a trying time to you and also on the, committee because I think this is our fifth day on your testimony, and it and it is a very long time. Are there any other comments? Senator BAKER. Mr. Chairman, I would only associate myself with your remarks and express. I believe, the appreciation of the committee for Mr. Dean's patience and rather prolonged testimony. It's obviously not an easy task to testify on matters of this importance and delicacy, and I think Mr. Dean has provided us with a great deal of information and will-which will serve as a basis for the ongoing inquiry of this committee and we thank him for it. [00.17.00] Senator ERVIN. It might be at some later stage of the investigation the committee may want to recall you. Mr. DEAN. I understand, Mr. Chairman. Senator ERVIN. I understand you will be willing to return on proper notice under the same subpena. Mr. McCANDLESS. Mr. Chairman, a matter of procedure that perhaps you could give us some help with. In the last 2 or 3 hours we have had many requests from the media who have been so patient and who have been sitting through this, to have an interview with Mr. and Mrs. Dean as they leave here. You understand, of course, that we cannot provide those interviews for some legal reasons, and for the basic reason, 5 days, that they are exhausted. We ask their leave and their understanding and yours that we are going to leave the building immediately after this. Senator ERVIN. I would think, since Mr. Dean has testified under an order of immunity, and testified involuntarily, I would think that his counsel would be wise to give him the same advice that I used to give my clients and that is to keep his mouth shut [Laughter.] The committee will stand in adjournment until Tuesday, July 10, at 10 o'clock.
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[00.26.37-THOMPSON continues to interrogate DEAN about his use of the funds entrusted to him] Mr. THOMPSON. Did I understand your testimony in response to Senator Gurney's questions that you took some money out, you don't really know how much, you put some back in and you don't really know how much? Mr. DEAN. I have. not sat down and tried to figure this out, no. Mr. THOMPSON. So you don't really know how much. Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. How did you know that you owed the fund $4,850? Mr. DEAN. Because I had -a check in there for that amount and I sat down and recounted it, and double checked that -before I turned the money over to my lawyer as -well. Mr. THOMPSON. Do -you still have that check incidentally? Mr. DEAN. Which check? Mr. THOMPSON. The $4,850 check placed in the safe. Mr. DEAN. No; I do not. When my lawyer and I discussed this he told me that we will have to negotiate a new check, an updated check because the old check would not pass with the old date. He said issue me a new check- and tear up the old one and get it over to me, which. I did. [00.27.38] Mr. THOMPSON. You tore up the check that you placed in the safe? Mr. DEAN. That is correct., Mr. THOMPSON,. Did you not consider this as possible evidence of your good intentions which you have relayed to us here? Mr. DEAN. Well, Mr. Thompson, if I was trying to be deceitful I could have very easily -written another check to put in but I am not trying to be deceitful, I tore up the first check and I didn't try to pretend there was--- Mr. THOMPSON. Well, you realized, I am sure you had -a problem--the reason you didn't place the money back, and in telling your attorney, was that you wanted to be completely truthful, but what you had done was realize it might be questionable; based on that statement would it not have been logical for you to have kept that check and say, yes, this is a check I placed in the safe at the very beginning? Mr. DEAN. -If you want to place something sinister on this YOU can because it was a very sort of incidental activity. Mr. Shaffer and I didn't really talk at length about it. He -wanted to get the information to the prosecutors, he said, "I will also need a new check." [00.28.42] Mr. THOMPSON. -An incidental activity at this time when you went to your attorney and explained the situation and, as you have said in your own testimony, you wanted to make sure the truth was out about this matter; you might be, questioned about it, and you wanted -to be truthful about it; you consider this an incidental matter at this time, the only evidence possibly that you had besides your own testimony that you had indeed placed your personal check in there? Mr. DEAN. I didn't feel it a major matter at that, moment I was prepared to reveal it and in fact develop it to the prosecutors. [00.29.13-DEAN testifies to the effect that he destroyed evidence that FAVORS his testimony about use of the campaign funds. THOMPSON is rather incredulous in questioning DEAN.] Mr. THOMPSON. You didn't feel it was necessary to have, any documentary evidence to support or bolster your testimony on this particular point, then? Mr. DEAN. No, I was perfectly willing to say everything I knew about the matter. Mr. THOMPSON. What about, a check stub? Mr. DEAN. I would surmise there is no check stub because I kept, the way my checkbook is composed there are no stubs to the cheeks, you slide new checks into the book and run the other, the stub section in another area of the book, and I would keep in my desk drawer a nonsequential numbered checks far down the line and when I wrote the check for cash I took one out of my desk drawer because my secretary would keep the sequential checks in her desk, and at the time, I don't recall her being in the office when I needed a check and I just wrote one out of my desk drawer. [00.30.05] Mr. THOMPSON. Are you saving you did not, stub this check at all? You did not make a stub? Mr. DEAN. No; I did not Mr. THOMPSON. I believe you previously testified that You stood ready to make, good this check at any time. Was it not necessary in keeping a record Of your account, did you consider this an obligation which you had covered, so to speak? Of course, you did not have enough money in your account to cover it. You have already testified that you only had $1,600 in your account at that time. Mr. DEAN. In my banking account, I certainly felt I had enough money to cover it through my brokerage account. Mr. THOMPSON. You had 20 something thousand dollars in your brokerage account? Mr. DEAN. I had over $20,000 in my brokerage account at that time. Mr. DASH. All right. And you took the money out on October 12, 1972? Mr. DEAN. Yes, sir. Mr. THOMPSON. And you placed the check in the trustee account when? Mr. DEAN. I do not recall the exact date the trustee account was set, UP, because as I say--- Mr. THOMPSON. In April? Mr. DEAN. Yes, in April. Mr. THOMPSON. From October 1972 to April 1973, you had this money in your stock account, and you never did take any money Out of the stock account and place it in the bank to cover this check? Mr. DEAN. That is correct, Mr. THOMPSON. When did you tear up this check? Mr. DEAN-. Shortly after my attorney told me he wanted me to issue a newer check. And he said in a manner that was without. to my knowledge, any sinister thoughts at all, that, merely issue me a new check and tear up the old check and bring the old one over here---- Mr. THOMPSON. I am not talking about sinister now. Of course, you have a right to do what you want to do with your own checks. There is nothing sinister about----- Mr. DEAN. We. had talked about this, Mr. Thompson, after the fact. I wish I had had the check. Mr. THOMPSON. I am sure you do, too. [00.32.00]
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[00.32.00-DEAN tries to explain his position with regard to the personal use of campaign funds in his care-it complicates his position that he has destroyed evidence that supports his own position, that he was not trying to steal the money] Mr. DEAN. If I were not perfectly candid with this committee, it would not be very difficult to manufacture another check. Mr. THOMPSON. I assume you would not do that, Mr. Dean. Mr. DEAN. I would not do that, no, sir. Mr. THOMPSON. I do not think we will even discuss possible further perjury or any activity of that nature. [00.32.20] Mr. SHAFFER. I object to the -word "further," Mr. Chairman. Mr. THOMPSON. That Objection, if the Chair will allow me to comment on it, is well taken. But it was your intent and what -was in your mind at the time, that puzzles me, Mr. Dean. Under ordinary circumstances, I -would say that a man of your dealings, dealing in stock--if I might finish--with personal affairs involving great sums of money, that even in ordinary circumstances, it would be highly unusual for anyone to tear up a check, for any reason. Maybe not. But it would seem that way to me. But under these circumstances, when you knew in your own mind that there might be some question about it, to the extent that you went through these gyrations to set up this trustee account, when you realized there might be some question, that you would destroy the only documentary evidence that might substantiate that testimony. [00.33.33] Mr. DEAN. Well, let me repeat something that I think should be very clear on the record. I at no time thought there was any way in the world that I would not have to account, in full for that, money. Too many people were aware of it. Mr. Howard was aware that it had come to me. Mr. Strachan was aware that it had come, to me. I had told Mr. Fielding that, I had it in my possession. I assume that they had possibly told other people about it, the fact that the money had ended up in my safe. The first occasion that it came to my mind, the point where I thought it ought to be revealed to the Government, -was after I went to my attorney. I -revealed it as it -was. We discussed back at that time that after we made the moves to open up the trustee accounts that really, through inadvertence rather than serious thought, I had destroyed the first check based on an accounting that my attorney had made. He said, tear up the first check and issue me a new check; it will be negotiable able. Now, that is the way the facts are. Mr. THOMPSON. Had you already started preparing your statement that you were going to use here today? Mr. DEAN. No, sir: I was not preparing the statement then. I was trying to go over at that time just my chronology of my knowledge as to the sequence of events. I was having meetings with the prosecutors some of this was just by, you know, trying to give them the facts as I knew them. [00.34.09] Mr. THOMPSON. Maybe I got, the wrong implication or impression a minute ago in response, to a question of Mr. Dash. The impression I got was that you were stating, in effect, that you never would have had to return that money, but you came, forward and did it anyway because nobody -would have known about it, something to that elect. Now you state that, correctly, Mr. Howard knew about it, Mr. Strachan knew about it, you assumed that they had told others about it. So--- [00.35.38] Mr. DEAN. What I am saying is not that no one would have ever known I had taken out, the, money. I could have put, the cash back in. That was not, my intention. When I, in fact, knew that I had handled that money, I felt I ought to state I had handled that money. I raised it with my lawyer, told him what I had done, and that is the, way it occurred. [00.35.59] Mr. THOMPSON. At, the, time, you went to your lawyer. you were, of course, shall we say estranged from the White House? I believe you said you got a different impression when you got back from Camp David. You said you were not going to play the coverup. game any longer and you got a different, impression from Haldeman as to his relationship with YOU and what he thought, about, you, that sort of thing. Did it ever occur to you that they might have access to your safe, or that they might be talking to Mr. Howard, they might be talking to Mr. Strachan, and they could go to the safe at any time? Mr. DEAN. At that, point, they were on their way to California. There was no problem with that, happening. Mr. THOMPSON. So there were, other people At the White House you still assumed were friends at that time? Mr. DEAN. There was only one person who had a combination to that, safe and it would been an extraordinary act, if they had come, in at that point when they were still dealing with me and trying to solicit my testimony as to what it was going to be for suddenly one night my safe to disappear. So I do not think that that Is a fair assumption. [00.37.07]
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[00.37.07-THOMPSON continues to ask DEAN about the finances of the COVERUP and DEAN'S dealings with the money] Mr. THOMPSON. Let me ask you about this entire fund. I think this merits some questioning with regard to the remaining money that was there: $10,350 that you said was not used. So you took $4,850 because you did not want it to be used in coverup activities or used to perpetuate the coverup. [00.37.35-THOMPSON tries to suggest that DEAN'S dealings with the funds were related to DEAN'S activities in the rest of the coverup, including taking materials from HUNT'S safe] Let us place this in context with Your own situation at, that time. Is it, not true that on October 11, Mr. Hunt had filed a motion to suppress in the criminal case in which he was involved at that time, alleging in an affidavit as part of its motion that certain documents or certain materials had not been turned over to the authorities when his safe was cleaned out? Mr. DEAN. I do not, recall the date when he had filed that motion, whether it was October 11. I recall there, was a motion filed to that effect. In fact, I recall that we received a letter at the White House. that it 'was a draft letter by Mr. Bittman to Mr. Colson that I received from Mr. O'Brien indicating the fact that such a motion might be filed and in that letter, the question was raised as to where given items that were in the safe were located. This immediate raised to me the problem of the fact that materials, had not one directly to the FBI, but rather had gone directly to Mr. Gray. So I was aware. of the fact that that motion was in the works and was going to be filed. [00.38.59] Mr. THOMPSON. And the basis of that motion was, at least One of the points, as I understand In the affidavit was that certain materials had not been turned over from his safe, had been withheld, and something had happened to them, is that not correct? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. All right, and you -were one, Of the Ones involved. I believe you said Mr. Ehrlichman told you to see, that the safe, was cleaned out. You were the one who, I believe, held a suitcase for a while, carried it around in the trunk of your car? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. YOU were the one who turned over documents to Mr. Gray? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. In order that they would not be leaked, I believe you said. Did you -not consider when this motion was filed, -when this affidavit was filed, that there was some amount of pressure on you, that you might be called in a hearing in the criminal case in order to explain what might have happened to those documents? Mr. DEAN. Indeed, I was quite, aware -when the motion was filed and I was called down to visit with the prosecutors, with the fact that I was going to be called to testify. That is -what compelled me to go and tell Mr. Petersen that in fact, the documents had not all been turned over directly to the agents. Mr. THOMPSON So you -were concerned about that at that time? Mr. DEAN. I was concerned about what? Mr. THOMPSON. The fact that this motion had been filed and you knew that, you had been actually the one who had, in effect, diverted some of those materials. Mr. DEAN,. Let us understand this. I had been asked to deep six and shred documents. Mr. THOMPSON. You testified as to that. [00.40.27] Mr. DEAN. I did not want to deep six and shred documents. As far as I was concerned, I had been prepared to testify -when my name became known that in Mr. Gray's testimony my name was going to come out. Mr. THOMPSON. You had been prepared to testify that you had given him certain documents and that they were extremely sensitive and I believe you said you did not, tell him that they should never see the light of day. Mr. DEAN. That is not what I remember. I believe I testified yesterday that I said they were not to be made public. [00.40.55] Mr. THOMPSON. Were you prepared to testify that you carried the suitcase around in your car for a few days to decide -whether or not you would deep six it? Mr. DEAN. If I had been called, that would have come out. Mr. THOMPSON. Would that not have been a certain amount of pressure on you, coming in and testifying truthfully is one thing but wanting to do that or in trying to prevent yourself from being placed in a situation where you would have, to do that--you did not want to go down there? [00.41.19] Mr. DEAN. Mr. Thompson, you cannot believe the amount of pressure that, came on me after the Gray hearings by people not wanting we to testify. It became inevitable that I might have to testify. [00.41.31-IS THOMPSON suggesting DEAN wanted to take the cash and skip the country to avoid testifying? What is his point?] Mr. THOMPSON. I am talking about the specific point. I am talking about 'whether or not, on the, day before you took this money out, and, of course, the records speak for themselves--I believe it, was October 11 of that year--that the day before you took the, money out, this motion was filed and in your mental condition at the moment, whether it was a matter of great concern to you? Mr. DEAN. I would not, testify it was a matter of great concern; no, sir. Mr. THOMPSON. Would you carry a suitcase around with documents in it- Mr. DEAN. That was a long way off and let, me tell you the interviewing events. After the letter came to my attention before the motion was filed, I had conversations with Mr. O'Brien about this. I told him that if the motion were filed by Mr. Bittman that a lot of problems might be created for the White House. Mr. THOMPSON. When was this conversation? Mr. DEAN. Well, it was well in advance of the filing of the motion. Mr. THOMPSON. Was it well after October--before the motion was filed? Mr. DEAN. Yes, it was. Mr. THOMPSON. And what was the substance of the conversation? Mr. DEAN. I told him that, it would create real problems for the White House if it was. I didn't get explicit with him. [00.42.39]
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[00.42.39-THOMPSON is trying to link DEAN'S personal use of the campaign money in his care to his status as a potential witness at that time, seems to suggest DEAN was trying to rip off the CRP] Mr. THOMPSON. And possibly problems for you, would it not? It would be at least embarrassing. would it not, that you were trying to decide whether or not to deep six those materials? Mr. DEAN. Well, it was not, you know, embarrassment to me in the sense that, it might have embarrassed others more seriously and it would have unraveled the coverup, if that is what you are saying; yes. Mr. THOMPSON. You were only concerned not to embarrass others and not yourself? Mr. DEAN. No, sir; I am sailing I was concerned that It might start, unraveling the coverup. [00.43.04] Mr. THOMPSON. Did you ever give Mr. LaRue any money for him to distribute to the defendants? Mr. DEAN. Directly? Mr. THOMPSON. Yes, sir. Mr. DEAN. No, sir. Mr. THOMPSON. Was any money ever, passed in your office when Mr. LaRue and Mr. Kalmbach -were present to give to defendants in order to keep them silent? Mr. DEAN. That is possible. I don't recall. It could have happened when Mr. LaRue and Mr. Kalmbach met for -Mr. LaRue to get his instructions regarding or Mr. Kalmbach got the instructions from Mr. LaRue as to the disposition of the money. [00.43.42] Mr. THOMPSON. Did Mr. Kalmbach ever come in and in effect, make an accounting of the money he had received and the money he had disbursed when he had some notes in his hand? Do you recall that, in your office? Mr. DEAN. I recall that he told me that he had destroyed the copy Of the distribution, but he said that he had take care of it and there may have been some sort of accounting. I don't -recall it precisely. It was not something we talked about with great frequency. [00.44.12] Mr. THOMPSON. Did you ever burn notes Mr. Kalmbach had had concerning his distribution? Mr. DEAN. Oh, yes; I did. 'Mr. Kalmbach gave me a small slip of paper. He was burning it and I gave him my ash tray and it was placed in my ashtray on my desk and burned up, one of these little notepads I think I testified to in my earlier testimony, where he had transcribed larger notes into smaller notes and it was burned up in an ash tray in my office. I do recall that; yes. Mr. THOMPSON. When did that occur? Mr. DEAN. Sometime after the delivery, I gather, had been made. Mr. THOMPSON. Was anyone else present besides you and Mr. Kalmbach? Mr. DEAN. NO; there was not. [00.44.54] Mr. THOMPSON. As to whether or not you in fact told Mr. Kalmbach that you wanted Ulasewicz to be the one to distribute this money? Mr. DEAN. I did not tell Mr. Kalmbach. Mr. Kalmbach requested Mr. Ulasewicz' number from me because he told me he was the only one he would trust to do the job. Mr. THOMPSON. Did you know who Ulasewicz was? Mr. DEAN. Indeed I did. I knew that. from the time, that Mr. Caulfield had been put on my staff; shortly thereafter, I learned that he had done countless assignments for Mr. Caulfield and Mr. Caulfield had regaled me at times with Mr. Ulasewicz ability. [00.45.32] Mr. THOMPSON. Getting back to the money in a different light, and I hope my pursuit is not being completely irrelevant. I am concerned with that fund and the possibility of whether or not there might have been distributions of that fund other than the one you have related to us. As I understand your statement, the reason you took the $4,850 primarily was to cover the expenses that you would incur on your honeymoon. Is that correct? Mr. DEAN. That -was the original purpose, but as I have, I think, the committee, I later used it for personal expenditures. Mr. THOMPSON. But that was the original purpose,? Mr. DEAN. That was the, original purpose; that is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. And you were questioned, I believe, as to why it would take that much money for a honeymoon. I believe your statement is that you planned to spend several weeks on your honeymoon. Mr. DEAN. I had hoped to spend about 10 days to 2 weeks in Florida if I could get it. I didn't know if I could get it. Mr. THOMPSON. 10 days to 2 weeks? Mr. DEAN. I didn't know how long I was going to stay. I was going to fight off the office as long as I could. I hadn't had a break in some time. [00.46.56-THOMPSON is trying one last time to pin DEAN on something improper] Mr. THOMPSON. You testified on more than one occasion that you were very careful in making your statement, that you -went over your statement in detail. Now the 10 days, this is the first time I have, heard of the 10 days. Mr. DEAN. No, sir; if you will check the transcript, that also came out in the questioning at one Point. Mr. THOMPSON, That you have testified? Mr. DEAN. Yes. Mr. THOMPSON. If I am in error, I will apologize- I am going back to your prepared transcript, your prepared statement, where you say on page 116: On Friday, the 13th, I had left Washington to go to Florida to spend several weeks on a honeymoon. I was abruptly called back on the 15th, after 2 days. Mr. DEAN. That correct. Mr. THOMPSON. I assume it was your intention when you left here to spend Several weeks Mr. DEAN. That was my--- Mr. THOMPSON. If possible Mr. DEAN. Yes.
The Porter Wagoner Show No. 402
Porter Wagoner "Shady Grove" Ronnie Rogers "Four in the Morning" Mack Magaha "Bill Cheatham" (Instrumental) Dolly Parton "Wash Day Blues" Porter Wagoner "World Without Music" Speck Rhodes "Please Help Me I'm Crawling" Porter Wagoner "Golden Streets of Glory" (Gospel) Danny Young "Kiss an Angel Good Morning" 01.20.06 -
The Porter Wagoner Show No. 400
Porter Wagoner "Be A Little Quieter" Harold Morrison "The Dog" Mack Magaha "Cheyenne" (Instrumental) Dolly Parton "Just the Way I Am" Porter Wagoner "Love's Melody" Speck Rhodes (Phone) (comedy/narration) Porter Wagoner and Dolly Parton (duet) "Jeannie's Afraid of the Dark" Harold Morrison "Little Maggie"