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Shaky light in contrast and imagery An overwhelming majority of the Saarlanders vote to return their territory to German Rule in a Plebiscite.
New Coast To Coast Air Record Set
Shaky light in contrast and imagery Major 'Jimmie' Doolittle spans the United States from Gendale, California. In a big transport plane in twelve hours. The speed king is accompanied by his wife on his remarkable journey. An early American Air Lines Passenger Plane.
July 19, 1995 - Part 2
(12:20:47) Mr. HUBBELL. Let me try to clarify it. We talked about, in the transition, the transfer and getting it done, and we talked about the fact that he was doing the returns and the difficulty of obtaining documentation. The CHAIRMAN. OK. Mr. HUBBELL. But I 123 The CHAIRMAN. All right. I just wanted to-- Senator SIMON. Mr. Chairman, in fairness, I asked the witness whether-I mentioned that he was upset about the Travel Office, and I asked whether he had been concerned, suggesting that he might be upset about Whitewater. Mr. Hubbell responded that he had not expressed concern on that. The CHAIRMAN. Let me pursue that just very quickly. Did he express concern about the documentation in terms of-that was a concern, and you were aware that he was having difficulty in this area, weren't you? Mr. HUBBELL. I guess where I'm trying to explain is yes, he had a concern, but when I'm talking--I believe he was raising it in the context of the things that I thought Vince had blown out of proportion, that being the privacy, the Travel Office, the picture in The Wall Street Journal and the question mark. Those seem to methat Vince was-as now I see it, evidence of the disease he had. Those were the concerns The CHAIRMAN. Primary concerns that you were aware of that were deeply troubling him. Mr. HUBBELL. Right, and what he talked to me about and I thought he had blown out of proportion. The CHAIRMAN. But he did express to you that there was the problem of dealing with the accounting and whatnot on Whitewater; that was of a concern, not of the concern that we're talking about? Mr. HUBBELL. Yes, I didn't mean to imply he never talked The CHAIRMAN. I just thought I'd clarify. Let me, if I might, refer you to the page of notes from Vince Foster's office dealing specifically with Whitewater. It touches on a number of things. It's DKSN 00236; Senator Mack referred to it yesterday. There is a portion that talks about if you did one thing it would open up a can of worms. If we go down to the bottom of the page, number 3, it says, " prior deduction of $48,000 price payment in 1980." Then, it says, "Colorado came up with a theory to justify, but it's shaky. 1) Mr. Lyons, during the campaign, did put out a report, is that not correct, dealing with Whitewater and what the investment was and what it was about, basically? Mr. HUBBELL. Yes, he did. The CHAIRMAN. Is it trite that Mr. Lyons was also referred to as "Colorado"? Mr. HUBBELL. I The CHAIRMAN. I mean, that's his-he comes from Colorado? Mr. HUBBELL. That's the way I would read that note, whether it's Mr. Lyons or the accounting firm in Colorado that he used. The CHAIRMAN. OK, but I mean-and he has been referred to as Colorado? Mr. HUBBELL. Him personally? The CHAIRMAN. Yes. Mr. HUBBELL, I've never heard Jim The CHAIRMAN- You've never heard Jim-but it is safe to assume? Mr. HUBBELL. I assume that's either Jim or the accounting firm he used. 124 The CHAIRMAN. Thank you. I want to yield up to 5 minutes to Senator Faircloth because he wants to finish a point. Senator Faircloth. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Hubbell, this is a very important question and I want you to think, if you will, very carefully. When you were Associate Attor- ney General, were you aware on July 20, 1993, or any time before that, that the FBI or the U.S. Attorney in Little Rock was inves- tigating David Hale? Mr. HUBBELL. I believe that there was something in the paper in Little Rock during the campaign that said that David Hale was under some sort of investigation. Senator DODD. Mr. Chairman, can I inquire, at this point, are we getting beyond the scope? I don't want to keep on raising it- I The CHAIRMAN. I'm going to permit the Senator and any Senator some latitude to see where it's going, and if it goes beyond the scope, then I will say it does. At this point in time, any Member and every Member has a right to refer to somebody for some kind of historical accuracy or picture. So I will ask the Senator to be careful as it relates to the scope. We're not going to go into the Hale matter, but certainly I believe there may be a connection.
Boys Have Fun As Downpour Inundates City
Shaky light in contrast and imagery Oars splash over main street as a seasonal downpour puts the region under several feet of water. Boys and girls take to boats or pump along on bicycles. A classic car driving down a flooded street. Teenage boys in a row boat with a dog making his way through the water following the boat. A little dog floating on a raft with his boy. A pair of Dutch wooden shoes floating.
Record Ski Run Opened
Shaky light and dull in contrast and imagery Champions gather for thrills and spills on a new course built among big trees on the steep slopes of a picturesque winner sports district. A Catholic Priest blesses the skiers as they prepare to ski downhill in the powdery snow and onto the finish line.
Jail Break
Rolling dull in contrast and imagery A quartette of armed prisoners escape, kidnapping the warden and the entire parole board. In a running fight, one fugitive is killed and the others captured. Overhead shot of San Quentin, guard standing by open-bed truck, FBI men inspecting prison building gate, warden's home, prison guard tower, old limo where a guard is pointing out the bullet holes, a group shot of investigators, police and detectives. One of the government officials gives a statement on the events and police procedures in capturing the convicts.
City Fingerprints Co-eds
Rolling dull in contrast and imagery Girl students at the university line up to register loops and whorls as a means of identification in the event of accident or abduction. Fingerprinting.
July 19, 1995 - Part 2
(12:25:36) I think I know, because the Senator raised the question yesterday-and I'm going to ask that the time be deducted for this, that we take out this time that subject to connection, I think I know where he's going. He referred to certain documents and calls that went to Mr. Foster's office. If he's pursuing that, if he is, then he'd be perfectly all right in doing it, So let's see where he goes. Senator DODD. I understand what you are saying, Mr. Chairman. There is certainly no desire The CHAIRMAN. I'll be very Senator DODD. There is no desire on anyone's part here The CHAIRMAN. To impede, I understand that. Senator DODD. -to get into it. I don't want to. The CHAIRMAN. We will watch the scope very carefully. I understand the Senator's concerns; I share them, but at this point I'm going to let him continue. Senator DODD. I appreciate that, but I'm just looking for a process question, too, here, in a sense, beyond this. What happens is, obviously, we're in a very public forum here and things get said, and all of a sudden the fact after a decision is made is it's beyond the scope. All of a sudden we've gone into another area. Do you understand what I'm saying? The CHAIRMAN. I will be mindful of that, and if my colleagues send me a note on it or want to raise it publicly, fine, but I III be mindful of it. I'm going to let him continue at this point. Senator DODD. Let me also, Mr. Chairman-let me inquire on the David Hale matter. Have we checked with the Independent Counsel? Is this a matter The CHAIRMAN. We are not going to pursue the matter of David Hale and/or what his involvement is. But certainly as it relates to whether or not there was a communication that may or may not have come from anyone to Vince Foster or-I mean, that would be something that is relevant. I don't know whether the Senator intends to pursue that, but I just use that by way of illustration. it 125 seems to me that that's probably likely. The Senator has never shared with me what questions he's going to raise; let me assure you of that. I'd like to know, but in any event, why don't we proceed, and we'll be mindful of that. Senator SARBANES. Let me Senator FAIRCLOTH. Senator Dodd, let me briefly touch on that. We have filtered the questions with the resolution and if you look at Resolution 120 on page 6, and the paragraph B section 4, it says, "to make such findings of facts as are warranted and appropriate." We have filtered the questions to be appropriate or we wouldn't be asking them. Senator SARBANES. Mr. Chairman, let me make Senator FAIRCLOTH. Appropriate The CHAIRMAN. Now, look. One at a time. Senator Sarbanes. Senator SARBANES. Let me just make this observation on that point. Resolution 120 set out the scope of the inquiry. We've been coordinating with the Independent Counsel as to what aspects are set out in the resolution the Committee could move ahead to examine. The one we, in effect-where they said it would not impede their inquiry was the treatment of the papers in Foster's office. The CHAIRMAN. Correct. Senator SARBANES. The other matters that are listed in the resolution on which hearings can be done, we've not yet reached because we've not yet reached that understanding with the Independent Counsel and those have been deferred over until the fall and further communication between us and the Independent Counsel. So the focus of these hearings is how the papers in Foster's office were handled, and I think it's important to keep the focus there. The other observation The CHAIRMAN. I concur with the Senator there, and that is my intent, to see to it that we stick to the issue. While I will permit certain latitude because- subject to connection if there is a connection that is not part of the criminal investigation as it relates to David Hale-he has pled guilty-I will permit that. For example, was there a contact that was made known by X or Y-that aspect may be outside of the scope but would not preclude ascertaining if there was some kind of connection. If it goes further than that, I will rule it out. Senator SARBANES. The other observation I might The CHAIRMAN. Now, in fairness to the Senator, I think I've set down-and I hope that I have responded in a manner which constitutes the area of governance of this Committee. At this time, I'd like to see that the Senator has his opportunity to proceed.
East Trains Get Together
Rolling, dull, light in contrast and imagery The speediest locomotives in the world are gathered in 'convention' for the first time. The monastery of the rails show the tremendous progress made by railroads in a few short months.
Girls Show Horsemanship
Rolling, dull, light in contrast and imagery Co-eds at Carlton College give a breath-taking exhibition of fine riding. Not content with their honors as mere equestriennes, the young women present a program of stunts on horse-back that rivals the performance of rodeo stars.
Largest Shortcake Sliced
Rolling, dull light in contrast and imagery A 5,000-lb. Strawberry shortcake is cut with a knife seven feet long by the 'Queen' of a gourmand's festival. Many thousand persons enjoy their helpings of the enormous pastry and small boys rush back for more.
Pitts Baseball Ban Fought
Shaky, drop out spots, dull in contrast & imagery Star athlete and model prisoner, Edwin "Alabama" Pitts completes his sentence at Sing Sing as friends struggle to upset a ruling which bars him from professional baseball. Pitts' widowed mother greets him with a kiss on the steps of the big house. Edwin C. "Alabama" Pitts with his mother, Mrs. Erma Pitts Rudd, as he stepped to freedom from Sing Sing Prison. In the fall of 1929, Pitts and 3 accomplices robbed a New York City chain store of $76.25. He was 19 years old at the time. He served 5 years and 2 months of an 8 - 16 year sentence.
July 19, 1995 - Part 2
(12:30:26) Senator SARBANES. Fine. The CHAIRMAN. Then, if people want to raise or question why the Senator brings that up, they can do it on their time. Senator SARBANES. Let me just make this final observation. This is our first witness. I think there is some 23 or 24 either witnesses or panels, and we've now virtually used up the second day of the scheduled hearing. So, if we don't keep the focus on and keep moving along, we're going to have a problem. The CHAIRMAN. I'd like to do that. 126 Senator FAIRCLOTH. If nobody hinders the proceedings any more than I do, we'll move quickly. Mr. Hubbell, I will briefly run through the question one more time. Were you, as Associate Attorney General, aware on or before July 20, 1993, that the FBI or the U.S. Attorney in Little Rock was investigating David Hale? Were you aware, by whatever method? Mr. HUBBELL. As Associate Attorney General is how you asked the question; the answer is no. But during the campaign, I believe, there was a newspaper article that said Mr. Hale was under investigation. So I had read that in the paper, for whatever that's worth'. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Did you know a subpoena was issued to search the office of David Hale on July 20, 1993? Mr, HUBBELL. Not until much later. The CHAIRMAN. Senator, at this point I'm going to say that I think we're beginning to move into a different area. Those questions will be appropriate when it comes to looking into all of those aspects as it relates to Little Rock and whether or not there-and I don't want to be inflammatory or sensational, but all of the various matters laid out in the resolution that cover the Justice Department and its interaction in various events that it had to deal with, at this time Senator FAIRCLOTH. I was through pursuing that line, anyway. The CHAIRMAN. OK. Do you have any other questions? Senator FAIRCLOTH. Yes. Mr. Hubbell, are you aware that anyone with the Rose Law Firm went to Vince Foster's home in Arkansas after his death and removed documents from Vince Foster's home? Mr. HUBBELL. I don't believe that-I'm not aware of anything like that happening, no. Somebody else was living in the home at the time. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Hubbell, you testified that Lisa Foster looked for a note in the Foster home the evening (12:33:01)(tape #10013 ends)
July 19, 1995 - Part 3
(13:10:48) I think it's very important that that be understood, that a question can be thrown out that makes some farfetched assumption as part of the question. In doing so, that seems to give it the appearance that there must be something there in order for that question to be asked. The witness says, I never heard anything like that or that's news to me or where did that come from, and that's the end of it. But the question with the premise has been Put out on the table. I think it's very important that that be understood. Now, Mr. Chairman, I assume probably we're going to take up the other panel tomorrow. The CHAIRMAN. Yes. Senator Sarbanes and I have discussed whether or not we should continue. I think, in fairness to our Members and staff, that we will resume tomorrow with our next panel. Let me, before I recess, say that I appreciate, Mr. Hubbell, your responsiveness. Obviously, there are many, many questions that you are not in a position to answer, and I think you shared with us, to the best of your ability and obviously your recollection, your true feelings. I will say this: I am perplexed and troubled with respect to the redactions. I'm going to ask that we put--I have a problem when we have a matter called Whitewater and, of course, nobody knows what redactions are, but, basically, I get a page and it just says Whitewater and it's taken out. Then we're told that there is a lawyer-client privilege. At some point in time, and I would hope that we could get Mr. Kendall voluntarily to make these materials available either to the two counsels or, in some manner, to ascertain what these redactions are. I think, in fairness to everyone, if we want the story and want the information and these papers were all in Vince. Foster's office, the Committee has a right to review them. I would hope that we could do that without the necessity of some kind of formal action. I am troubled by it because you can't, on one hand, say that we've made all of the information available arid, then, on the other hand, raise the issue of attorney-client privilege. So, in fairness to this Committee, in fairness to the American people in getting this information, I hope we could resolve that. I don't know whether we can. I'm going to speak-I don't know whether it's in the ability of the Committee if we're acting together to be able to get that. It may be something Mr. Kendall wants to or feels compelled to resist. But I hope we would have ail opportunity to get that, and I Senator SARBANES. My understanding is that many of the redactions were made not on the basis of attorney-client privilege, but on the basis of relevancy. The CHAIRMAN. Maybe there is a manner in which we could solve that because if they are not relevant, why then, we don't want them. I do not want- Senator SARBANES. Why don't we explore that? The CHAIRMAN. I would hope we could explore that. Mr. Hubbell, we thank you. We stand in recess until tomorrow. (13:14:27) [Whereupon, at 1:15 p.m., the hearing was adjourned, to reconvene at 9:30 a.m., on Thursday, July 20, 1995.] (13:14:30) Various shots of the Senate hearing room as Senators, witness, audience and press mingle and leave (13:17:28)(tape #10113 ends)
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