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Childhood Friends
Clip: 433674_1_1
Year Shot: 1950 (Estimated Year)
Audio: No
Video: Color
Tape Master: 1040
Original Film: 203-14
HD: N/A
Location: United States
Timecode: 01:19:04 - 01:19:30

Childhood Friends LS two grade school age boys in silhouette walking away from camera toward beach, it's the twilight hour with a golden sunset on the horizon, very warm and representing childhood nostalgia.

Baseball
Clip: 347133_1_1
Year Shot: 1938 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1526
Original Film: 010-689-10
HD: N/A
Location: LOS ANGELES, CA
Timecode: 00:11:58 - 00:13:00

Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS 30,000 Amused spectators witness the annual charity game, in which many leading Hollywood stars and comedians run riot on the diamond, hitting an occasional ball and otherwise carrying on in true 'gag' fashion. Joe E. Brown at microphone describing the game. Older woman throwing out first pitch.

'Frontier Day' Celebrated
Clip: 347134_1_1
Year Shot: 1938 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1526
Original Film: 010-689-11
HD: N/A
Location: CHEYENNE, WY
Timecode: 00:13:01 - 00:13:41

Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS All the dashing bravado and color of the old west is recalled with a fast-riding and thrilling rodeo, featuring daring bronco riders, and a street parade in which colorful floats depict the days of Buffalo Bill.

America Welcomes Corrigan
Clip: 347135_1_1
Year Shot: 1938 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1526
Original Film: 010-690-01
HD: N/A
Location: New York, NY
Timecode: 00:18:44 - 00:21:49

Shaky dull in contrast and imagery Douglas Corrigan, intrepid aviator who flew 'by mistake' non-stop to Ireland in a $900, 9-year-old plane, tells his story to Universal Newsreel far out at sea, before his spectacular reception in New York. Douglas Corrigan waves from passenger liner and passes a sight-seeing boat with banners welcoming him back home to New York. Ticker tape parade in New York. Corrigan waves to crowd on parade route. (various generic shots could be used for other ticker-tape parades)

Night Watchman A Father For 26th Time At Age Of 82
Clip: 347136_1_1
Year Shot: 1938 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1526
Original Film: 010-690-02
HD: N/A
Location: WASHINGTON, D.C.
Timecode: 00:22:12 - 00:23:02

Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS George Boarman, Octogenarian night watchman, who credits his--err--well, his longevity to righteous living, is the proud papa of a bouncing boy of 8 pounds by this third wife, who's 21. It's Boarman's 26th child. Boarman at work on the boat docks. He jumps about doing a silly dance, apparently to show how youthful he is. Cameramen wearing medical gowns and masks, standing behind newsreel cameras. CU of George Boarman and his 21 year old wife and new born child.

August 4, 1994 - Part 13
Clip: 460859_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10103
Original Film: 104852
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(01:00:40) Senator MURRAY. Public perception standard, could we find anybody to be in that position? 511 Senator KERRY. If I could supplement the question to Mr. Nussbaum and, look, I don't quarrel with you on any other level, but don't you think Mr. Altman fell into-he's not just a political appointee in the sense-I'm on her time Senator D'AMATO. I don't agree. I'll read the whole thing. Senator DODD. It's important. Senator MURRAY. I don't believe they're arguing with that, Senator Kerry. Senator KERRY. They're talking about something else. Just on the question of Mr. Altman, he ran the war room, he had this extraordinary access to the White House, he was a major player in Health Care. So here you have somebody who's a central part of the President's political agenda in a way many people wouldn't Separate from the rise or fall of the President himself, particularly the campaign, also. I think you have a very different status than just an appointee who goes off to do his job. Mr. NUSSBAUM. Senator Kerry, you're making it a very strong argument in this respect, and it really is a close case, maybe a closer case than sometimes I make it sound when I get carried away with my position. But you have to understand what he said to me at that meeting, and it sort of subsumed some of the things you said. He comes into me and he says I am not legally or ethically required to recuse myself. I know that legal or ethical recusal standards take into account relationships and appearances, so he's, in effect, saying to me I've gone to somebody. I've discussed these issues. I've laid out all the facts, including, I presume, those kinds of things, and I've gotten this advice. Then that triggers my response. Maybe you're speaking with justification or you're saying with justification that I should have examined it more, come to an independent conclusion about this, and maybe you've reached a different conclusion. Senator MURRAY. Mr. Nussbaum, it's my time that I'm losing here. I think that this is a discussion that this Committee is going to have to have. Fortunately, the RTC is going to go out of exist- ence, I hope in my lifetime, but I do think it's a question that all of us have to as ask ourselves. If we have Presidential appointees, is there an ethic bar so high that no one can jump over it and every- one would have to recuse? Before I lose my time, Mr. Nussbaum, I have to ask you something else and it goes away from this entirely. Having sat here and listened to all kinds of theories about who did what and how awful they were, it seems to me that some people came into this willing to hang somebody before we started and some people are still there. I'm not sure where I am yet, but I have to go back to our very first day of hearings when we discussed Vince Foster's suicide. I know you were not here, but I know that you knew him. And I have to ask you, having left this town, having watched all of this. Vince Foster said something and I would just like to give you an opportunity to comment on it. "Here, ruining people is considered sport." I really would like to hear what you have to say about his observation. Mr. NUSSBAUM. That's a very hard question to ask me, because I really had great affection and great respect for Vince Foster. He was a marvelous person and a great Deputy. I think the course of 512 my life was changed by his suicide. I think, to some extent) he was right. I think in Washington, among some people, ruining people is considered sport. But I don't really believe that exists on every level. I really don't agree with Vince in the final analysis. I think there's a lot of it. There's too much of it, but fundamentally-I said this before the House, to some extent, too--fundamentally, I believe the public service is a high calling. I believe it's a worthy calling. I believe it has certain dangers that go along with it. I believe you should ex- pect those. You should try to deal with those as best you can, it shouldn't discourage people. I don't want Vince's death, I don't want my experience to discourage people from coming to Washington. I really want people to come and to serve.

THIRSTY MAN DRINKING FROM FRESH WATER STREAM
Clip: 432911_1_1
Year Shot: 1966 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: Color
Tape Master: 1023
Original Film: 210-45
HD: N/A
Location: Scotland
Timecode: 00:09:58 - 00:10:07

THIRSTY MAN DRINKING FROM FRESH WATER STREAM MS older man with Shepherd's staff bending over with cupped hand and drinking from fresh water stream.

GROUP PORTRAIT OF ANDES NATIVES
Clip: 432912_1_1
Year Shot: 1956 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: Color
Tape Master: 1023
Original Film: 210-41
HD: N/A
Location: South America
Timecode: 00:10:09 - 00:10:17

GROUP PORTRAIT OF ANDES NATIVES MS South American Indians of the Andes mountains posing for photographer, all smiling as the man focuses the lens on his big tripod camera

Gray Squirrel
Clip: 433659_1_1
Year Shot: 1996 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: Color
Tape Master: 2138
Original Film: 271 922
HD: N/A
Location: North America
Timecode: 00:22:47 - 00:25:35

Master 2138, Tape 1 MS Young Gray Squirrel (Sciurus carolinensis) sitting on a tree branch. The squirrel scratches himself with his hind leg. The squirrel grooms. The squirrel climbs the tree branches.

Gray Squirrels
Clip: 433660_1_1
Year Shot: 1996 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 2138
Original Film: 271 922
HD: N/A
Location: North America
Timecode: 00:27:32 - 00:28:10

Master 2138, Tape 1 MS tree with den hole. One young Gray Squirrel (Sciurus carolinensis) pops his head out of the den hole. Another squirrel is on the back of the tree; he climbs around to the den hole. Both squirrels retreat into the den. A third squirrel climbs down the tree trunk and into the den. The squirrels have been scared by a crow's call.

Gray Squirrel
Clip: 433661_1_1
Year Shot: 1996 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: Color
Tape Master: 2138
Original Film: 271 922
HD: N/A
Location: North America
Timecode: 00:29:07 - 00:30:31

Master 2138, Tape 1 MS Young Gray Squirrel (Sciurus carolinensis) sticks his head out of his den hole in a tree. The squirrel comes out of his den and climbs on the tree. The squirrel sits in a tree and eats.

Novel 'Venus' Contest Staged
Clip: 347142_1_1
Year Shot: 1938 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1526
Original Film: 010-690-08
HD: N/A
Location: CONEY ISLAND, N.Y.
Timecode: 00:25:24 - 00:26:11

Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS 125 Streamlined lassies compete in Steeplechase Park's 25th annual Modern Venus Contest (Bathing Beauty contest). The judges pick diminutive Elissa Winston, pretty 19 yr. old brunette, as the No. 1 'Eyeful'. Judges "measure" her up, a judge measures her bust and waist.

The World Of Sports - Futuristic Car
Clip: 347143_1_1
Year Shot: 1938 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1526
Original Film: 010-690-09
HD: N/A
Location: WENDOVER, UTAH
Timecode: 00:26:13 - 00:26:45

Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS An amazing, turtle-shaped racer, developed by John Cobb, British broker and sportsman, is made ready for an assault on the world's auto speed record held by Captain Eyston. Cobb's car has 2630 H.P.!

Wrestler - Iron Man
Clip: 347144_1_1
Year Shot: 1938 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1526
Original Film: 010-690-10
HD: N/A
Location: BUFFALO, N.Y.
Timecode: 00:26:45 - 00:27:37

Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS 'Iron Man' Talun, Polish wrestler, who speaks no English but knows all the familiar tricks and a few new ones, is seen in a rip-snorting match in and out of the ring. He finally downs Danno O'Mahoney, his much battered opponent.

August 4, 1994 - Part 13
Clip: 460860_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10103
Original Film: 104852
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(01:05:27) Senator MURRAY. And I appreciate that, but I wonder if we set the ethical bar so high, that no one can do any of these jobs? Mr. NUSSBAUM. I think that's a real problem. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you, Senator Murray. Are there any further questions for the witness because, if not, I'm going to excuse the witness. We've got the results of the deposition here with Ms. Hanson. There's been a request that it be read into the record, and I'm going to do that, in its entirety, in one moment. What I'd like to do, because of the hour of the evening that it is, or the morning, 1:05, 1 would hope we would not get into a de' bate on the substance of this' tonight. I think nobody has had a chance to read it and digest it. It will be out there in the pub public arena. We can all have it and take it up tomorrow if there's a need to do so. Senator BRYAN. Mr. Chairman, may Mr. Nussbaum be excused? Senator SARBANES. I want to say something, Mr. Nussbaum Senator DODD. And I do too, just 2 seconds, but go ahead. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Sarbanes. Senator SARBANES. I want to thank Mr. Nussbaum. I think he's raised some very serious questions, very thought provoking, on the recusal issue, and while there's been sharp reaction from many Members here on the Committee, I think if they think about it , the implications of some of what's happening are very serious indeed. You're getting to the point, to take an extreme, a President comes in, He nominates people to office and they have to recuse themselves simply because they're nominated. Or, you know, someone says, well, I met him and we're sort of friends and now there's a tough decision here and I'm recusing myself. Now, the Altman case may be different, I think, but I think in a sense, it represents the politics of our time. Unfortunately, what's happened is there's a cynicism that's assuming if you have any connection at all, you can't make a tough independent judgment, and I think if we start down that path, it's fraught with very serious implications. I think that you've argued that case very strongly tonight and, I'm frank to say, I think it needs to be given a great deal of thought and attention. I also want to say when the panel was here from the Associate Counsels of the White House Office, they drew virtually uniform praise from Members of the Committee for their forthrightness, for their obvious ability, for their commitment, and for their understanding. 513 And I think it ought to be noted that those were people you brought into Government. They, in effect, were your people. You're the one who picked them, brought them in, and to the extent that we praised them yesterday, I think it's a reflection upon you this evening. Senator DODD. Can I just Mr. NUSSBAUM. Thank you, Senator. Senator DODD. I want to pick up and be very brief. I want to associate myself completely with the remarks of my colleague from Maryland. He's terribly perceptive most of the time, if not all of the time, only when he disagrees with me, which is far too frequently I'm afraid, but I also wanted to express my view-maybe we're becoming addicted to this process here late at night, but I think it's an extremely important debate and we have to find a forum in which to conduct it because I think there's a terrible danger in applying a standard that has such rigidity that we defeat the purpose for which the rule was established. There's also the danger of tyranny. We're raising the bar of recusal to such a level that it has the outcome determined before any consideration is given. The notion that public perception should weigh as heavily as the ethical or legal questions is a frightening thought to me. It may be a bit old-fashioned, but I was taught to believe that in public service, the standard which you use to judge your conduct is you do what's right, even if it's unpopular, even if a good part of your constituency or the public or the press doesn't like it.

VO-5 Hair Ad Outtakes
Clip: 432927_1_1
Year Shot: 1965 (Estimated Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 194
Original Film:
HD: N/A
Location: United States
Timecode: 14:53:56 - 14:57:08

Master 194 - Tape 1 CU young woman (teen), interesting diagonal split-screen effect (makes her look like TWO women) with mirror as she sprays some sort of aerosol onto mirror, as if to show how some hair sprays can smear and dull a woman's hair. MSs of young woman in front of mirror as she sprays her hair with VO-5 and smiles at the results, except when she apparently gets a little in her eyes. MSs woman pitching Vo-5, holding it up and showing side by side comparison with Brand X aerosol.

Mogen David Wine Commercials
Clip: 432928_1_1
Year Shot: 1950 (Estimated Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 194
Original Film: N/A
HD: N/A
Location: United States
Timecode: 15:02:50 - 15:06:03

Mogen David Wine Commercials

Chesty Potato Chips Ads
Clip: 432929_1_1
Year Shot: 1950 (Estimated Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 194
Original Film:
HD: N/A
Location: United States
Timecode: 15:06:13 - 15:08:59

Master 194 - Tape 2 Animated white on black line drawing of a football player, narrator asks him his secret, he takes off his helmet saying, "Nobody can tell me I don't use my head." Inside is a Twin Pack of Chesty Potato Chips. Football hits him on the head, and he stumbles over the word "Crisperfection." in describing his love for Chesty Chips. Similar animated line drawing of mad scientist/genius type, Professor Von Schnuckelpuss, who wants to discover the secret of the "Crisperfection" process, as he puts a match to the concoction in his petrie dish, it explodes. Similar animated line drawing of big game hunter and lion, Sir Cedric Claversham, "the internationally famous hunter". "They're fresh enough to tame a lion," he says, the lion meows like a domestic tabby.

Wins Farm By 144-Hole Game
Clip: 347152_1_1
Year Shot: 1938 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1526
Original Film: 010-691-08
HD: N/A
Location: OLYMPIA FIELDS, IL
Timecode: 00:34:53 - 00:35:48

Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS In one of the most amazing 'Bets' ever cancelled on the fairway, j. Smith Frebee, Golfer-Broker, wins $2,500 and a half interest in a virginia plantation by playing between dawn and dusk with no '18' and 95 strokes.

The World Of Sports - Beauties Chute The Chutes
Clip: 347153_1_1
Year Shot: 1938 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1526
Original Film: 010-691-09
HD: N/A
Location: ENFIELD, MAINE
Timecode: 00:34:19 - 00:34:52

Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS It's down to the sea on water toboggans for a bevy of 'down east' misses, who stage thrilling 10 M.P.H. Dashes at Morgans Beach, riding bike mermaids into cold stream pond from a 60-foot incline.

Demonstration Crowds
Clip: 347154_1_1
Year Shot: 1938 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1526
Original Film: 010-691-10
HD: N/A
Location: MEXICO CITY, MEX.
Timecode: 00:31:09 - 00:31:37

Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS Spectacular scenes mark the huge demonstration as thousands of members of the C.T.M. Workers organization stage a colorful parade and mass meeting against newspapers unfavorable to their cause.

President Roosevelt Back In US After 3 Weeks At Sea
Clip: 347156_1_1
Year Shot: 1938 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1526
Original Film: 010-692-01
HD: N/A
Location: PENSACOLA, FL
Timecode: 00:40:07 - 00:40:35

Shaky dull in contrast and imagery President Roosevelt, tanned and ready for fresh new deal battles after a 3-weeks fishing trip at sea, arrives on the USS. Houston at the naval flying station and is greeted by a colorful Marine Guard of Honor.

August 4, 1994 - Part 13
Clip: 460862_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10103
Original Film: 104852
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(01:15:07) Nobody here, nor any place in the record before, says Bernie went out and started this process as to one of the issues, the recusal issue. So I think that's important to note. I think we are in a very difficult time today in terms of how you make judgments and what powers those judgments. My colleagues, particularly my colleague from Massachusetts, has spoken to it. We are oftentimes press driven. No one wants to admit it. It is a fact of life. Terror strikes in the hearts of powerful Senators and Congressmen when the press can put a spin on something and have someone down on their knees crying. Not publicly, but it happens, so I think we have to take a look at that. And I wish you good luck. Mr. NUSSBAUM. Thank you. The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Nussbaum, thank you very much for the time and thoughts and let us excuse you at this time. I want to now go to the deposition that was taken this evening from Ms. Hanson. We move very quickly to do that so she might have an opportunity to respond to questions, as a result of the viewing of the videotape, and what the words were that were ex 515 changed between she and Mr. Altman back at the time of February 24th when they were here testifying, What has been typed up at this hour, because. everybody has been working nonstop, we have half of the transcript which runs 14 pages, but it covers a direct discussion, in detail, that videotaped moment and it gives very explicitly her view. I suggested we just make it available to the press and distribute it to Members. It's been suggested by two Senators that it be read into the record. I'm prepared to read it into the record if that's the wish of the Committee. I'll just do it. I'm going to read it in as neutral a fashion as I can. It's 14 pages, shouldn't take too long. It's the deposition of Jean Hanson. "Whereupon Jean Hanson was recalled for deposition in the above-entitled matter and, having been previously duly sworn, was examined and testified further as follows:" I will parenthetically say we're going to start with a series of names and then the people who then make those comments. Mr. CODINHA. Let's go right onto the record. Ms. Hanson, thank you very much for returning tonight on such short notice. Mr. Pitt , I want to thank you for making your client available to us. Then the examination begins by Mr. Codinha. Ms. Hanson, my question to you is, focusing your attention on the testimony you have seen, the videotape you have seen, do you recall Mr. Bond's question and Mr. Altman's answer at the hearing? Answer: Yes. Question: Describe what you thought when you heard that question and answer, if anything. Answer: I understood the question and answer to refer to the RTC. Question: All right. And is that what you were thinking when you heard that question and answer? Answer: That's what I particular moment in time. Question: When you heard that answer, did you think that Mr. Altman's answer was complete, or incomplete, if you had determined that at the time? Answer: It was accurate to the best of my knowledge. Question: After that question and answer, if you look at the videotape, and when Ms. Ford is asked the question, when you see Mr. Altman turn and say something to you, and you appear to shake your head, which looks like a negative shake of the head, and Mr. Altman then turns around again, he says something to you and you shake your head, and I can't tell whether you said anything or not. Mr. Altman has taken a position on what you have said. What we would like to know today, and what the Senators want to know: To the best of your memory, what did Mr. Altman say to you, and what did you say to him? Answer: I don't recall Mr, Altman's exact words, but in substance he asked me whether his answer was wrong. And I don't recall what I said to him, but in substance it was that I didn't believe so. I immediately, if you note on the video, turn then to Ellen Kulka, the General Counsel of the RTC who is seated next to me, and asked her in substance whether she thought the answer was wrong; and I recall that she, in substance that she said she didn't think it was wrong. A Again, I understood all these questions to be asked and answered in the context of the RTC. That's how I understood: The questions related to the RTC and that they were answered in that context.

August 4, 1994 - Part 13
Clip: 460863_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10103
Original Film: 104852
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(01:20:20) I will say that at some point here I realized that we hadn't prepared Mr. Altman for this particular-these particular questions, and that there was no question and answer on it. And I also recall at some point having a flash of remembering that I had spoken with Mr. Nussbaum in the fall. I didn't recall the specifics of the conversation or the events surrounding it. I also recall not having a disquieted feeling about Mr. Altman's response to the questions, or any feeling that-a feeling that anything was being withheld. And after the hearings were over I, as I have testified, knew that there were issues/questions that needed to be followed up on. I don't recall that this was one of them. Although I will say that the following week when Mr. Podesta called Mr. Altman, and Mr. Altman told me that a question recall. I don't recall specifically what I was thinking at that had been raised about his answers to Senator Bond's questions, and we didn't have a transcript so we located Senator Bond's questions on a videotape and transcribed them, and they were only the two: She now refers to that transcript and she quotes it. "Senator BOND. How was the White House notified of the referral? "Mr. ALTMAN. They were not notified by the RTC, to the best of my knowledge. "Senator BOND. Nobody in your agency, to your knowledge, advised the White House staff that this was going to be a major-this could be a major source of concern? "Mr. ALTMAN. Not to my knowledge." Ms. Hanson continues: When I looked at those two questions, which were the only questions that I had transcribed, out of context, although the answers to the questions were literally correct, I had a concern that in fact the answers were not in the spirit of the questions. And it was that day, later on that day, that I started my preparation of my questions and answers, trying to refresh my recollection about the events that had occurred in the fall because I knew that the record would have to be supplemented to include that information. Question: I began by asking you what you said to Mr. Altman and what he said to you when you shake your head 'no,' So if I understand correctly what you have said, it is that when he turned to YOU, you, by shaking your head, and by his question being in essence 'is my testimony correct,'you were affirming that you believed his testimony was correct? Answer: That's my recollection. Question: OK. Mr. Pitt, her attorney, speaks next. Mr. PITT. In the context that she has now described. I mean, that was one of the reasons why we wanted the record to be complete about the whole series of questions. Ms. HANSON. And that I confirmed that information with Ellen Kulka, as well. I understood, as I stated, the questions to be asked and answered in the context of the RTC. Mr. Codinha resuming: Question: OK That brings to mind a question that Senator Sarbanes raised with another witness. That is--or actually it may have been with you-that when you went to the White House on September 29th, did you believe you were representing the RTC or the Justice Department Ms. STRAUSS. The "Justice Department"? Mr. CODINHA. I'm sorry, the Treasury. I have been looking for scope objections all day. [Laughter.] Question: The Treasury. Answer: I believe that I was acting in my capacity as General Counsel of the Treasury. Question: So when you heard-if I understand correctly what you are saying about what is reflected on page 69-when you heard the question and understood it for RTC, you were separating your role as a Treasury Department employee, and that is why you didn't indicate to Mr, Altman at that point that you had had the meeting? Answer: That's correct. Question: Now another thing that we are concerned about in this testimony is that Mr. Altman says that "a week passed before Mr. Podesta's call which alerted me to the fall meetings, Ms. Hanson, Mr. Chairman, then pre-cleared my letter to Senator Riegle which stated I had no prior knowledge of these meetings. She signed off on it. At not one of those times did she suggest-not one of those times did she suggest--that my recollection was faulty," Is Mr. Altman correct in that? Answer: To the best of my recollection, yes. As I have stated, I didn't recall at the time that the March 2nd letter war, written, or prior to the March-between the time of the hearing and the time that the March 2nd letter was sent, I didn't recall that I had spoken with Mr. Altman about the meetings in the fall. So the letter that was sent on March 2nd was correct to the best of my recollection at the time it was sent. 517 Question: Ms. Hanson, I'm going to ask you this because I know the Senators are going to be very concerned about this distinction that you're making-I'm now going back to what happened at the hearing-the distinction that is being made for how the notification happened, and when Mr. Altman said-let me read exactly what he says. He says, or Senator Bond says

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