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Storm Report: Blizzard Hits Wide Area
The worst blizzard of the season spreads from the Midwest to the Atlantic seaboard. Again, nature puts the brakes on the wheels of progress as automobile traffic slows and stops, airlines are grounded and trains run hours behind time. Oh well, Spring is only about two months away. Only?? Aerial view of city street with cars in blizzard. A crowded expressway on a snowy afternoon. MCUS - City traffic, snowing, traffic moving slow. POV - Inside a car, snowing, two cars in shot and windshield wipers are turned on. MS - Snow building on the street, a couple of cars pulled over to the side of the road. MS - A tow truck hooking up a stalled car. MCUS - Man with a shovel digging his car out of the snow on a city's side street. MCUS - Empty bridges, empty gas stations, and empty streets and the snow is really coming down and accumulating. View from top of a building of heavy traffic on this street and a lot of snow coming down. MS - People helping one another cross a street.
First Lady's Tour: Inspects Coal Areas Hit By Unemployment
Mrs. Lyndon Johnson assumes her duties as First Lady with a visit to one of the nation's distressed areas -- the coal mining region of Scranton and Wilkes Barre, Pa. She attends the dedication of a science center designed to train unemployed men in new skills that will attract modern industries to the area. Pennsylvania The First Lady, Lady Bird Johnson is greeting and shaking hands with the people who live in Scranton and Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. MS - Throngs stand behind the ropes. MCUOH - Lady Bird smiling and shaking hands with children and adults. CUS - Lady Bird Johnson attending a dedication.
August 4, 1994 - Part 2
(10:05:25) Let me also ask you this. Senator Gramm just made reference the words in the diaries. We have heard some rather florid language in diaries over these last several days. I almost think someone were an understudy for Louis Lamour to hear some of the language. Are you in the habit of talking about Mrs. Clinton's moods with people in the White House, friends of yours, and how she is doing, from day to day, or feeling? 1. Is that something you are likely to share with even close friends? MS. WILLIAMS. It is not something that I would share with close, friends. It is not something that I would share with anyone, maybe my immediate staff. Otherwise, I think it just amounts to gossip. Senator DODD. Well, I happen to agree with you, and I presume you would not be in your job long if that were the case. I certainly would not tolerate it in my office, and I presume the First Family". would not be particularly anxious to have someone discussing their' moods with people. So I accept your answer in that matter as being fairly good. Mr. McLarty, welcome to the Committee. Mr. McLARTY. Thank you, Senator. Senator DODD. Let me run through a series of questions for you. When did you first learn about the RTC's criminal referral regarding Madison? Mr. McLARTY. Some time in November. Senator DODD. Of? Mr. McLARTY. 1993. Senator DODD. And when did you first learn that Jean Hanson had spoken with Mr. Nussbaum on September 29, 1993? Mr. McLARTY. After Mr. Altman's testimony to this Committee, after February 24th. Senator DODD, After February 24th? Mr. MCLARTY. Yes, sir, that is correct. Senator DODD, Let me ask you this. Do you believe it was appropriate for Ms, Hanson to have had that discussion with Mr. Nussbaum and others at the White House? Mr. Chairman, I am having a hard time Mr. Chairman, I am just having a hard time hearing. [Pause.] Do you believe that it was appropriate for Ms. Hanson to have had the discussion with Mr. Nussbaum? Mr. McLARTY. I asked Mr. Cutler, the White House Counsel, to look into all of the matters in this time period, and I believe that he concluded that he felt this meeting was appropriate, and I, would rely on his judgment. 287 Senator DODD. Do you have any knowledge, Mr. McLarty, as to whether or not Ms. Hanson received instructions? We have heard a lot of different words used to describe how she was, how that meeting occurred. I gather it was around the Waco discussion, and at the end of that, sort of an aside. We have had enough testimony, I think, to probably establish that was the case. Do you have any knowledge as to whether or not Ms. Hanson was sent to that meeting by Mr. Altman? Mr. McLARTY. No, I do not, Senator. Senator DODD. Now, you did not attend the February 2, 1994, meeting? Mr. MCLARTY. That is correct, Senator Dodd. Senator DODD. But you received a call after that meeting from Mr. Altman? Mr. MCLARTY. Yes. Mr. Altman called me a couple of days after that meeting, and I returned his call. Senator DODD. Well, as it pertains to the subject matter before this hearing, did any part of that conversation touch on Mr. Altman's discussions during the February 2nd meeting? Mr. MCLARTY. I do not know that he characterized them that way. He called me, I returned his call a couple of days later. When we made connections, he noted he was weighing the matter of recusal. I listened. Senator DODD. Let me stop you there. This was a couple of days after, this is like maybe February 4th, then? Mr. MCLARTY. Somewhere in that time frame. Senator DODD. So it is after February 3rd, it is after the February 3rd meeting, as well? Mr. MCLARTY. Senator, as I recall it, it was a couple, three days after the February 2nd date that we made connections. Senator DODD. He is weighing recusal at this point? Mr. MCLARTY. He told me he was weighing recusal. I listened to him, told him I was sympathetic with the situation, and encouraged him to make the judgment he felt was the right one. It was a brief conversation. Senator DODD. Did you get the sense from him in that conversation that he was sort of agonizing over this decision somehow? Mr. McLARTY. I do not know that I would use the word agonizing. He said he was weighing the matter, as I recall the telephone conversation, Senator. Senator DODD. Did he mention to you at all what had happened at the February 2nd meeting regarding conversations with Mr. Nussbaum and others about reasons why he should not recuse himself? Mr. McLARTY. No , it was not a lengthy conversation and I do not recall that kind of detail in this telephone visit. Senator DODD. I presume you have explored the issue, since it has now been a matter of public discussion for some time about what happened at that February 2nd meeting regarding the recusal discussion. Can you share with the Committee what you know about what was said at that meeting and whether or not, in your opinion, what was said by Mr. Nussbaum and others constituted pressure, for 288 lack of a better word, since that one's been used the most around here in the last several days? Mr. McLARTY. Well, Senator, it is my understanding that Mr. Altman, I believe, has testified he did not feel any pressure and it is my understanding that the other people that attended that meeting felt they were not applying pressure, In terms of my own opinion, I think there has been a number of views expressed about the matter, and Mr. Cutler and others can speak to that. I am of the view, really, very much like Secretary Bentsen, that it really is up to the individual to make his own judgment and that is what I encouraged Deputy Secretary Altman to do.
The World Mourns John Fitzgerald Kennedy
The final act in the tragedy of John Fitzgerald Kennedy, 35th President of The United States is one of the most memorable in history. Kings, Queens, Presidents, Premiers, Princes and Princesses, Emperors and Dictators - they come from the far corners of the earth to pay tribute to the man who had served the world while he served the nation. From the moment his casket is borne from the White House to lie in state at the Capitol it is a drama filled with high emotion. All through the night people file past the bier. Some standing in a 10-mile long line for as long as 12 hours. To pray. To mourn. To weep. Then the cortege winds from the Capitol to Saint Matthew's Cathedral for a Pontifical Funeral Mass while Mrs. Kennedy walks for six long blocks behind the caisson drawn by six white horses. After the religious rites the cortege proceeds to the cemetery of Heroes --- Arlington --- where the martyred President will rest. At the end of the solemn, heart-rending graveside honors, Mrs. Kennedy lights a flame that will burn forever in his memory. Rest In Peace. Washington DC
August 4, 1994 - Part 2
(10:10:46) Senator DODD. Ms. Williams, let me jump very quickly to two final questions. In that February 2nd meeting, we have heard testimony that Mr. Altman made the point specifically at that meeting that Ms. Kulka was going to handle the RTC civil matters, make all the decisions on it, and that the February 28th deadline was not going to pose a problem because a complaint could be filed. What is your recollection regarding that testimony? Do you agree with that, or disagree with that? Ms. WILLIAMS. On the whole, I believe I agree with that. I do not remember the names. Ms. Kulka's name does not strike a bell with me, but I would not challenge that if names were discussed. Senator DODD. Did he make it clear that someone else was going to be responsible for this other than himself? Ms. WILLIAMS. Yes, he did. Senator DODD. All right. Mr. Chairman, can I ask one last question here? The CHAIRMAN. All right. Senator DODD. This is the question I have asked all of the witnesses, because it goes to the central question I think, and I apologize. I read it because I want every word to be correct in it, and I ask this of both of you. Did either of you take or instruct anyone to take any action to obstruct or impede the Resolution Trust Corporation's handling of either the criminal or civil case against Madison Guaranty? Mr. McLarty. Mr. MCLARTY. No, sir, I did not. Senator DODD. Ms. Williams. Ms. WILLIAMS. No, sir, I did not. Senator DODD. Are either of you aware of anyone in either the RTC or the Treasury Department or the White House taking any action to obstruct or impede the Resolution Trust Corporation's handling of either the criminal or civil case against Madison Guaranty? Mr. McLarty. Mr. McLARTY. No, sir, I am not, as I commented in my opening statement. Senator DODD. Ms. Williams. Ms. WILLIAMS. No, sir, I am not aware. Senator DODD. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I apologize. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you, Senator Dodd. Senator Mack. 289 OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR MACK Senator MACK. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And allow me just a moment of lightness here, if I could. It has all been pretty tense over the last 3 or 4 days. One of the observations I have picked up about what is going on down at the White House, and I think you might want to take back down there, is the theme I see kind of running throughout here, that no one has time to sit down, all conversations are brief conversations, and nobody remembers anything. And so maybe the suggestion would be to maybe slow things down a little bit, have longer conversations, sit down and discuss things through, and maybe someone will remember something. Anyway, it is just a side comment. [Laughter.] Mr. McLARTY. Senator, as always, we will take your comments under advisement. Senator MACK. Ms. Williams, are you aware of a memo written by Bruce Lindsey on October 20th, which he copied to you, concerning press inquiries about the criminal referrals on Madison? MS. WILLIAMS. No. Senator MACK. Do you have any idea why you would have been copied on such a memo? MS. WILLIAMS. No. I am not clear why I would have been, I have since seen that memo, and it is about a press inquiry, and the Director of Communications was copied on that memo, so I could have been copied because it was a press inquiry. However, Mr. Lindsey, I believe, has testified that in fact the memo may never have gotten to me at all because the cc's on it were for an earlier memo. I do not know exactly the ins and outs of that, but I am sure Mr. Lindsey can speak to it. Senator MACK. Would it be normal for you, though, basically to be copied on concerns, (a) about press, and (b) about what was going on with Whitewater? Ms. WILLIAMS. I would generally be copied about press inquiries, Yes. Senator MACK. You stated that the Whitewater response team was formed in October or November. Since two of the members of the team were copied on this memo, was it the subject of any of those meetings? Ms. WILLIAMS. Well, first of all, to the best of my recollection, there was no Whitewater response team in October or November, as such. The Whitewater response team, as I recall, and Mr. McLarty may be helpful since he organized it, was in January, was when we first had any meetings, organized meetings in any kind of routine way. I recall January specifically because Mr. Ickes did not come to the White House until January, and he was the person who was asked to focus, in an organized fashion, on Whitewater press inquiries.
August 4, 1994 - Part 2
(10:15:37) Senator MACK. OK, let me just ask one more follow up to that. Ms. WILLIAMS, Yes, sir. Senator MACK. Are you saying to us that you were not at meetings during October and November of 1993, where the criminal referrals were discussed? 290 MS. WILLIAMS. That is what 1 am saying, sir, other than the Feb- ruary 2nd meeting, I had not been at any other meetings. Senator MACK. All right. At this time) Mr. Chairman, I would just yield the balance of time to Senator Gramm. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Gramm. Senator GRAMM. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Let me go back to this question about the entry by Mr. Altman into his private diary, a diary that he never had any reason to believe was ever going to be made public, ever scrutinized, in which he says that you told him the First Lady was paralyzed. And let me say that how the First Lady felt on any day is none of our business in many ways, but it is only relevant to this issue, it seem's to me, because of this meeting in your office on February 3rd, Mr. Altman is asked, in sworn testimony, what did You understand Ms. Williams to be conveying when she talked about solving this problem, the problem about the First Lady. And Mr. Altman says, "Mrs. Clinton is upset. My understanding was that, or the context was that, Mrs. Clinton was so distracted or upset by Whitewater, she could not," and then he loses the focus. Mr. Altman had called on February 3rd and asked you to set up a meeting so that he could come over to the White House to tell people, after this meeting the day before, that he had decided not to recuse himself. He had come over to the White House on February 2nd to announce his recusal but now he changed his mind. Now he is coming back to say, I am not going to take myself out of the Madison investigation. He makes that announcement in your office. We have had this dispute about time, and your Counsel has told you that, well, isn't 10 seconds 10 minutes. I'll leave that alone for the time being, but let me ask you a question. Did you report this meeting, or did you ever have any discussion about the recusal issue, or about Altman's recusal decisions, with the First Lady? Ms. WILLIAMS No, sir, I did not. To the best of my recollection, I did not. Senator GRAMM. Never, ever, on any occasion, did you talk to the First Lady about Roger Altman's decision as to whether to stay in his position overseeing the Madison investigation or whether to take himself out of it? Ms. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir, I understand the question. To the best of my recollection, I did not. Let me refer you to my statement. In my statement, I said that I had made a conscious decision for myself and for other members of my staff that we would not spend our time discussing issues re lated to Whitewater with Mrs. Clinton unless we were fact-finding to respond to press inquiries. Let me tell you a little bit why I did this, so you will have some context and you can understand it. Whitewater certainly was a concern in the White House. it was a distraction, but it was not Senator GRAMM. Let me be sure I have asked the question both ways. Did the First Lady ever raise these issues with you? 291 MS. WILLIAMS. No, she did not. Sir, I would like to, if I may, Mr. Chairman, I would like to continue because I think it is really important for me to put this in some kind of context so you can understand the mindset that I was operating from. I knew that in the newspapers everyday, Mrs. Clinton and the President were being beaten up on about Whitewater. I also knew that even though Mrs. Clinton does not normally read the newspapers, it would be very hard to avoid them. I also knew that she was engaged in fact-finding with her personal lawyer, which was taking up a lot of time on Whitewater. I made what I believe was a sound and good management decision Senator GRAMM. Ms. Williams MS. WILLIAMS. Excuse me, sir, may I just finish this please? The CHAIRMAN. Senator Gramm, I want to let her finish. I'll restore your time, because she has asked to do this, and I think it is important that she have the chance to do so. Senator GRAMM. And let me say I understand you want to give us the context that is very important. You understand our frustration that we are on a clock? MS. WILLIAMS. I do. I understand that. I really do. But I think that this might save us time in the long run. Senator GRAMM. I do not want my mom to watch this and say I was not letting you talk. Ms. WILLIAMS. Right. My mom's right here and she does not want to let me talk. [Laughter.] Senator GRAMM. Now that we understand each other. The CHAIRMAN. Listen, why don't you have your mother call his mother. [Laughter.] MS. WILLIAMS. But I had made a very conscious, and I think a sound management decision about what it was I would discuss with Mrs. Clinton. I thought to myself, she has the newspapers, she has her personal lawyers, she has whoever else that she wants to talk to in the White House about it, be it the
Special Release: President Assassinated
Newsreel regarding the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. Orig UI Text: President John Fitzgerald Kennedy is dead at the hand of a madman. Lyndon B. Johnson becomes the 36th President of the United States. In the midst of cheering crowds as he rode through downtown Dallas, Mr. Kennedy fell before assassin's bullets fired from a warehouse along the route of the motorcade. A nation is bowed in grief. The world mourns. A feeling of shocked disbelief swept over the nation as the news came that the 46 year old Mr. Kennedy had been murdered. Men & women wept unashamedly in the streets. Then came grief & revulsion. Bells tolled & flags were lowered to half-mast in sorrowful tribute to the 4th U.S. President to lose his life to an assassin. Message of sympathy poured in from world leaders. The youngest man ever elected U.S. President, Mr. Kennedy was a best-selling author at 23, a war hero at 26. A U.S. Representative at 29, a Senator at 35. Scion of one of the nation's wealthiest families he avoided the life of ease to dedicate himself to public service. He executed many difficult problems of his office with a skill that brought sunshine to the Presidency. Now he is dead."
Assassin Killed: President's Slayer Shot In Dallas Jail
Madness and hate erupt anew in Dallas as President Kennedy's accused assassin is shot down during a jail transfer. Here is the record as Lee Harvey Oswald walks his last mile. Two cameras record the moment as the murderer moves in. Forty-eight hours and seven minutes after the President's death, his accused slayer is dead. Dallas, Texas Jail transfer taking place where Lee Harvey Oswald is being led away by law enforcement officials. MCU - The rife allegedly used by Oswald. MS - An armored truck is backing in to the jail building. MS - Oswald being led down the hall lined with news paper men on each side of the hall. MCUS - A shot rings out and Oswald goes down. MCUS - The framed is replayed frame by frame and there you see Jack Ruby move in and shoot Lee Harvey Oswald. MS - Ambulance rushing in to take Lee Harvey Oswald to the same hospital that cared for President Kennedy. 48 hours and 7 minutes after President Kennedy's death, Lee Harvey Oswald is pronounced dead.
August 4, 1994 - Part 2
(10:20:41) I have a job to do. My job is to focus on Health Care, to focus on our social obligations, to focus on her obligations as a First Lady. I had a staff of 13 people that were trying to do the work of 35 people and I had to keep them focused. And the other thing, let me just tell you, I am sensitive to because this is how I would want to be approached, when I came to see Mrs. Clinton, I wanted her to see me and think, we are going to be talking about the business of the White House. Mrs. Clinton did not say to me, when she asked me to join her staff, come and be my legal representative. What she said to me, come and we might be able to make a difference in this country. I took her at her word, and that is how I compartmentalized my time. The CHAIRMAN. I think that is important context and it was important that you say it. Would you add back the time for Senator D'Amato, 2 minutes I mean, Senator Gramm. 292 Senator GRAMM. Well, first of all, let me say that we would wish that everybody in American Government had that approach, and I am sure you do, and I think the country benefits from it. I do not doubt that you are focused on those things, I do not doubt that you are trying to promote that agenda. The obvious question we are trying to ask is, you have a person who is in agony, it seems to me, from everything we know that is said in private in diaries. But in testimony, in sworn testimony, it is almost like none of this is happening. Mr. Altman is trying to make a decision. lie is the President's close friend. He is overseeing a criminal investigation or a civil investigation where the President's name has been mentioned. He is under immense pressure from himself to get out of it. He is under immense pressure, at least if we believe what people write in their diaries, privately, that he is under immense pressure from the White House to stay in it. Mr. Altman makes a fateful decision. He decides to stay in it at a critical moment when the clock is ticking away, the statute of limitations is running out, which to people in America means the danger's passed, nothing can be done about it. Mr. Altman decides to come over to the White House to tell people that he has decided to stay in it, which is what he believes they want him to do. It seems to me that the relevant question to us is, why he would pick the Chief of Staff of the First Lady to set up this meeting. Now your answer, and I believe that the facts are right. You have instant access to everybody at the White House, you are a facilitator, you are getting things done, you can pull people together. You call up these people, they're going to be there. The question then is, did he call you as the First Lady's Chief of Staff because you can get things done and you can make it happen, or was there some special relevance about your position with the First Lady? That obviously is the question and we have heard your answer. Let me go back to this matter of 10 minutes versus 10 seconds. There is a big difference between 10 minutes and 10 seconds. I know the Counsel believes that there isn't, but there is. The story we have heard to this point is that people have gotten together. Mr. Altman comes in the room, he has got his briefcase in his hand. He set up this meeting. He called you. He asked you to get these people together. He comes in and says, I am not taking myself out of Madison. He can say that in 10 seconds. What happened during the rest of this time? That is what I would like to know. Ms. WILLIAMS. Well, sir, let me---- The CHAIRMAN. We need a brief answer but a full answer. [Laugher.] MS. WILLIAMS. Well, sir, as I said when I was first asked about the time, I do not really remember the time. I threw in 10 minutes, not because I have an absolute recollection or I was watching the clock, but I was trying to think of a brief amount of time, I am sorry I was not making distinctions about seconds, but was trying to emphasize the briefness of the meeting, which is why I added to my testimony that everyone was standing up, and, as I have said in my statement, that Mr. Altman was on his way out the door. 293 So I do not feel confident enough to parry with you on whether it was 10 minutes or 10 seconds. But I am confident of the briefness of the meeting, given that, one, everyone was standing up, two, that Mr. Altman was on his way to an appointment, which I remember distinctly, because he had said, I am running late, I have got to get to where I am going. So that is what I recall.
Greek Queen Honored In United States
Queen Frederica of Greece arrives in the U.S., on a 17 day unofficial visit. She receives an honorary degree from Columbia University. New York, NY The Ocean Liner the United States docking in New York harbor. MS - Queen Frederica of Greece and her daughter Princess Irene MCU - News photographer and his camera MCUS - A little girl presents Queen Frederica with a bouquet of flowers her daughter Princess Irene smiling in the back ground. MCUS - Dean Rusk, Mrs. Rusk, Princess Irene, and Queen Frederica.
Robert Kennedy Concludes Mission
The Attorney-General pauses in Korea on his trouble shooting trip to end tensions among Indonesia, the Philippines and the new Malaysian federation. His efforts appear to be successful. Korea The Attorney General, and his wife Ethel visit American troops along the truce line in Korea. CUS - Robert Kennedy stretching his arm out to shake hands with the American troops who are stationed on the base. MCUS - Robert and Ethel Kennedy meeting with Korean dignitaries.
August 4, 1994 - Part 2
(10:25:48) The CHAIRMAN. Thank you very much. Senator Kerry. OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR KERRY Senator KERRY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I hope we can all get the time of answers added back to our time too. Mr. Chairman, I think we are getting to the point with this hearing, or these 3 days have narrowed the focus of this that we may well even be getting to the point of beating to death the fairly narrow focus of what this is being reduced to, which is the question of Mr. Altman's testimony and Mr. Altman's recusal. It's certainly not a question of any of the very highfalutin, broad sweeping allegations made over the course of months, and I think it is very important for this hearing to begin to focus on that for the American people. Now, Mr. McLarty, you were Chief of Staff in the White House. You were also, or you are perhaps one of the very best friends of the President of the United States. Is that true? Mr. McLARTY. We have had a long-time relationship beginning when we both were children growing up in Hope, Arkansas. Senator KERRY. You have known each other through almost all campaigns and through all of his life in politics? Mr. McLARTY. We have and we worked closely together when President Clinton was Governor of Arkansas. Senator KERRY. As Chief of Staff in the White House, you certainly have your finger on the button of power, so to speak. You have the ability to contact all the regulatory agencies, the Justice Department. You could certainly put together a White House network for dealing with Whitewater/Madison, could you not? Mr. McLARTY. Well, yes, Senator, I could, and in some of those cases, I would go through White House Counsel to make some of those contacts. Senator KERRY. Appropriately, I understand. What is clear from the record here is, for all of the thousands of pages of documents that we have and all of the hundreds of hours of depositions and all of the testimony that has come before us under oath, there is in fact no evidence that the Chief of Staff of the White House organized, put together, or was involved in a slew of conversations to deal with Whitewater/Madison. Is that accurate? Mr. McLARTY. I think it is accurate, and I reflect that in my opening comments, Senator KERRY. In point of fact, the only thing the White House did with respect to Whitewater/Madison in any organizational way 294 was have a press team put together to try to respond to the myriad of inquiries that were coming in. Is that not accurate? Mr. McLARTY. We tried to manage it in an orderly way, primarily with public inquiry and in many cases, non-factual basis allegations. Senator KERRY. I want to make it clear that I think that Mr. Altman's testimony has presented problems, and I have asked many questions about that and will continue to. And I also want to make it clear that I think some people screwed up here and made some bad judgments. But let's also look at the overall record. On September 29th, it is fair to say the only-this is when it begins-Treasury initiated a contact with the White House, correct? Mr. McLARTY. I have since learned that. Senator KERRY. Which you later learned of? Mr. MCLARTY. That is correct. Senator KERRY. You were not notified of that when that occurred, were you? Mr. McLARTY. No. I have already testified I learned of it after Mr. Altman testified before this Committee on February 24th. Senator KERRY. In fact, a great period of time went by before you even knew of any criminal referrals issue having been relayed to the White House, correct? Mr. McLARTY. I learned of it in November through public press accounts. Senator KERRY. Through the public press, but not through anybody in the White House coming to you in a state of panic, my God, we have got to deal with this, correct? Mr. McLARTY. That is correct, Senator. Senator KERRY. And indeed, on September 29th, there was a Treasury initiated contact at the now famous stay-back post-Waco pre-brief? [Laughter-] Correct? A whole new version. Mr. McLARTY. That is your description, Senator. Senator KERRY. Believe me, it is not my description. That was the description in the record, and it is evidence of why the American people find it so hard to understand what is going on here with graceful ducks and pre-brief post-Waco debriefs and so forth. It leaves me, we do not discuss things here, we vet them. We have a whole new language around here. Let me go on. On October 16th, there is another Treasury-initiated press Meeting in the off-ice at which Ms. Hanson comes in, but Jack DeVore, a press secretary is there, and Mark Geron, press communications is there. Again, you are not present, you are not part of that? Mr. McLARTY. That is correct. Senator KERRY. Did not know about it? Mr. McLARTY. That is correct, not until some time later. Senator KERRY. All right. Now on February 2nd, we go from September, October. Now November passes, nothing, December passes, nothing, January passes, nothing. Nothing on the record. 295 We get to February 2nd and Altman, again, a Treasury-initiated meeting on the question of the statute of limitations because there is an enormous amount of press interest on this. Is that correct? Mr. McLARTY. By that time, there certainly was, Senator. Senator Kerry, On February 3rd, there is a second meeting which raises questions about Mr. Altman's testimony, but again initiated by Treasury?
Air Disaster: 118 Die In Crash Of Canadian Jet
Four minutes after taking off from Montreal in a driving rainstorm, a Canadian four-engine jet plunges to earth and burns. All 118 person aboard the plane die in Canada's worst air disaster in history. Montreal, Canada Camera pans over wreckage of plane strewn around in a Canadian river, a light snow covers the parts of the mangled plane parts. MS - Camera pans over the wreckage that is unrecognizable plus there seems to be clothing hanging from some of the trees. MS - Rescue workers and workmen working together in the rescue or just gathering up parts of the plane and the victims.
Football - Auburn 10 / Alabama 8
Alabama takes on the Auburn Tigers at Birmingham and the Crimson Tide finds it is up against Tigers of a different stripe this year. Auburn hasn't beaten Alabama in 5 years. Today is different. With a fine defense and an alert offense Auburn capitalizes on Alabama's mistakes to win. 10 to 8. Straight ahead - The Orange Bowl. Birmingham, Alabama Alabama's marching band is on the football field and they form a gigantic letter A. MLS - Sport fans attending this football event. MD - Auburn has the ball, QB throws a short pass, it is caught and the receiver goes 12-yards. MS - QB hands off the football and it is carried 7-yards. MS - The kicker, Woody comes out on the field and kicks the ball for 3-points. MOS - The fans are on their feet cheeing . MLS - The punter kicks the ball down to the 5-yard line. MS - The punter kicks the ball again the ball is fumbled by Birmingham and Auburn recovers. MS - Kent a substitute QB throws the ball and it is caught by the receiver, and he goes in for the touchdown. MS - Alabama has the ball and it is handed off to Nelson and it is carried 80-yards for a touchdown and that puts Auburn ahead 10 to nothing. MS - Joe Namath running the football in for a touchdown.
Pope's Pilgrimage: Council Hears Plans For Holy Land Visit
Pope Paul VI makes a precedent-shattering statement as the Ecumenical Council ends its second session. He announces that he will visit the Holy Land in 1964 -- the first known occasion in which the head of the Roman Catholic Church has traveled from Rome to the land where Christianity was born nearly 2,000 years ago. The Council itself was historic --- its major achievement a change in the liturgy allowing, for example, parts of the Mass to be read in the local language. Vatican, Rome, Italy The Pope sitting on St. Peter's chair surrounded by his Ecumenical Council, young priest. MS - Pope Paul the XI makes the announcement that he is going to visit the holy land, middle east. MLS - Pope Paul VI leads his council in prayer. MS - The Cardinals, Arch-Bishops and other clergy applaud Pope Paul VI decision. MCUS - Pope Paul VI sitting in St. Peter's chair as Cardinals, Bishops and other members of the clergy queue in a single file, kissing the ring of the Pope. MS - Pope Paul VI being carried out on a raised chair in a procession. (Vatican II, vatican 2)
Helicopters Prove Worth In Vietnam
The 'copter has come of age as a weapon of war in the fighting in South Vietnam. The whirlybird has won acclaim for its rescue work --- snatching the wounded and helpless from almost certain death --- and as a hit and run attack craft. South Vietnam Helicopter in flight, views from the open door of the helicopter. MCUS - An army base with soldiers going about their business a parked helicopter. MCUS - A wounded soldier is helped out and off of the helicopter. MCUS - A wounded soldier seated on a beach chair is put in an ambulance. CUS - The front of the helicopter. Aerial - Views from the helicopter. CUS - A disabled helicopter sitting in shallow water. MS - A larger helicopter comes in and the disabled helicopter is fastened by steel cables and is lifted out of the water. MLS - This large helicopter flying with this disabled helicopter hanging by short steel cables.
New Sea-Air-Sea Missile Unveil
The U.S. Navy unveils a new submarine missile that can hunt out and destroy enemy submarines within a 30 mile range. It can be launched from a submerged sub, fly through the air at supersonic speeds and explode on target underwater, destroying the enemy. The USS Seadragon armed with a new nuclear submarine missile. An naval officer is looking it over. MS - Animation showing how the missile lifts out of the water, and when the missile separates how a guidance system keeps it on target. It lifts out of the water and comes down entering the water acting like a dept charge. CUS - Two army officers sitting at the controls of the submarine and they shoot off the rocket. You see the rocket traveling under water.
August 4, 1994 - Part 2
(10:30:52) Mr. MCLARTY, I believe the questions about Mr, Altman's testimony were after he testified here February 24th. Senator KERRY. I am saying in terms of a question, it raises a question in terms of his credibility before the Committee. Mr. McLARTY. I am sorry. I understand the question. Senator KERRY. But it was a Treasury-initiated meeting? Mr. McLARTY. That is correct, Senator Kerry. Senator KERRY. So in all of this hullabaloo about Whitewater/ Madison, there are only four meetings over the space of 5 months, all of them initiated by Treasury and that is the full measure of your knowledge or involvement in this. Is that not accurate? Mr. McLARTY, Senator, I believe it is. I have not recast the meetings quite as precisely, but I believe you are correct in how you outlined them. Senator KERRY Well, that is certainly not a sign of a White House obsessed by this issue. Mr. McLARTY. Senator, I agree with that, and that is why, in my opening comments, why I tried to appropriately point out what we were focused on in the White House from September through the March time period. Senator KERRY, Now, despite the fact that you are as close as you are to the President, there was no, there is nothing in the record, no conversation, anything that indicates that somehow the President asked you to monitor this or stay in touch with it closely or anything, is there? Mr. McLARTY. That is correct, Senator, Senator KERRY. Now I want to come back to an issue that does concern the Committee, and see if I can maybe ask a question, and Ms. Williams, you can maybe help me. If it is an opinion you do not want to offer, then do not. Obviously, the Treasury was initiating an awful lot of outreach on this and many of us think much of that was inappropriate. I would think you, in hindsight, would probably have that judgment I hope that that may come up. On this meeting where Mr. Altman comes to the White House, I conclude that there was clearly a lower-level White House view, an individual view expressed by some people working in what they thought may have been the best interests of the President, and who felt that Mr. Altman did not need to recuse, for whatever reasons. Mr. Altman goes home, makes a decision, comes back and it seems is rather anxious to kind of let people know that he is going to stay on. I guess we are all sort of left wondering, I mean, is it your sense that he was trying to please people, or curry favor, or something by letting everybody know if this was not, in fact, a big-deal meeting? Why else would he call and get a group together in order to notify them of this non-recusal? 296 MS. WILLIAMS. Once again, I am hesitant to speculate because,. know speculation -just blows up on you, but I will say it was not my sense that he was in any way currying favor. I would not think that. Senator KERRY. Was there any rational reason for doing it? I am sorry, my time is up. The CHAIRMAN. Yes, we can come back to this. I will certainly see that you get a second round. Mr. MCLARTY. Mr. Chairman, if I may inquire of the Chair? thought Senator Kerry noted, and I should have clarified it during his comment, that the October meeting, as I understand it DeVore perhaps called, was in my office. That is not correct. Senator KERRY. Oh, I am sorry, I apologize. Mr. MCLARTY. That is not correct. Senator KERRY. It was the February 2nd meeting in your office? Mr. MCLARTY. Yes. Senator KERRY. I apologize and stand corrected. Mr. McLARTY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Faircloth. OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR FAIRCLOTH Senator FAIRCLOTH. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. McLarty, we have talked a lot here about the RTC criminal referrals that name the Clinton's and about the so-called, "Heads Up, that was first given to the White House on September the 29th of last year. But that was not the first time a Clinton appointee knew about these criminal referrals. In fact, a Clinton appointee not only knew that those referrals existed, she knew what was in them. Early in the Administration, President Clinton asked for the resignation of every U.S. Attorney in America, even those in most cases he did not have a replacement for. But one place he was ready, and that was Little Rock. He immediately appointed Paula Casey, a campaign worker, former law student of Bill Clinton, who became the U.S. Attorney in Little Rock. She not only had the criminal referrals in Little Rock, she knew what was in them. Mr. McLarty, do you know Paula Casey? Mr. McLARTY. I am acquainted with Paula Casey.
Heroes Cited: Guard Honored For Dallas Bravery
See also catalog # 160076 Mrs. John F. Kennedy accompanies Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill and his family to ceremonies in Washington when the agent receives the Treasury's Gold Medal for attempting to shield the President and his wife during those horrible moments in Dallas. President Lyndon B. Johnson cites another Secret Service Man, Rufus Youngblood, for throwing the Vice-President to the floor of his car and putting himself in the way of the sniper. Washington DC Mrs. John F. Kennedy , Secretary to the Treasury, Douglas Dillon. MCUS - Mrs. Kennedy dressed in black with no expression on her face being very stoic. MCUS - The Secret Service Agent - Clinton J. Hill being presented with a gold medal from Secretary to the Treasury, Douglas Dillon. His family is sitting with Jacqueline Kennedy. MS - White House Rose Garden a small crowd of people and press has gathered. MS - President L.B. Johnson awarding another agent with a medal, Rufus Youngblood. President Lyndon B. Johnson, "There is no more heroic act then offering your life to save another. And in that awful moment of confusion, when all about him were loosing their heads, Rufus Youngblood never lost his. Without hesitation he volunteered his life to save mine. Nothing makes a man feel better than being an American, and to be witness to this kind of noble patriotism." - Crowd applauds.
The Pope's Historic Pilgrimage
Drop out at beginning of story A pilgrimage into history. Pope Paul Sixth travels from Rome to the Holy Land on his precedent-shattering trip. Even as he boards the plane he creates a series of historical firsts: the first Pope to fly, the first to leave Rome since 1809 and the first to visit the Holy Land in 2,000 years. He is greeted in Jordan by King Hussein before proceeding to Jerusalem where he enters the city through the Damascus gate and retraces the footsteps of Christ along the Way of The Cross. Police are helpless before the crowds that crush to see and touch the Pontiff. The Pope crosses into Israel and goes to Nazareth where Jesus spent much of his early life and then to the Sea of Galilee where St. Peter was singled out by Christ to be the first of the Apostles --- the Peter who first occupied the Throne that has come down to Pope Paul VI. Then the Pope met with Patriarch Athenagoras, leader of the Orthodox rite. Thus he ended his journey as he had begun it -- by making history. Jerusalem, Israel Pope Paul VI embarking from a Alitalia passenger jet liner. MS - Jet liner climbing in altitude with the Pope inside. CUS - Jordan s King Hussein. MS - Pope Paul VI disembarking from the plane and greeted by King Hussein, shaking hands. MS - The Pope travels 54 miles to Damascus gate and the crowds are amazing in numbers. MOHS - Pope is shaking hands with a Rabi. MLS - Throngs line the streets to greet the Pope. MCUS - The Pope is entering another church to say Mass in Nazareth. MS - Pope arrives at the church of the multiplication, where Jesus performed a miracle with fish and bread. MS - The Sea of Galilee. The Pope walks down to the sea and visually embraces what he sees.
August 4, 1994 - Part 2
(10:35:42) Senator FAIRCLOTH. I do not, Mr. Chairman, plan to go outside the scope of these hearings, so I will not ask why Paula Casey failed to act on the criminal referrals that the Special Counsel now has. I do want to ask some other questions. Did anyone in the White House have any communication of any kind with Paula Casey or any of her staff? Senator DODD. Mr. Chairman, that is out of order. 297 This is far beyond the scope. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Faircloth, we discussed that the other day and the problem with that area, it does cross the line into the areas that we have been asked not to go into by the Senate an the Special Prosecutor himself. I know you have strong feelings about the Special Prosecutor and I understand that, but that would take us into a zone that is going to have to be dealt with at a later time and cannot properly be dealt with by us here now under the instructions that we have been given. Senator DAMATO. Let me, if I might, Mr. Chairman, say to my colleague, Senator Faircloth, that there are a lot of disturbing as ects. The question of documents in Vincent Foster's office that we have now learned of. We were supposed to be able to go into the document area of the Whitewater papers that were initially found in Mr. Foster's office that were held at the White House apparently for 5 days. That is a subject we are going to have to wait on, that issue and others, that are beyond the scope of this hearing at this time. so I would ask my friend and my colleague to pursue it through an other line. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Well, are you saying that Paula Casey is out of the realm? Senator D'AMATO. Yes. As it relates to the criminal referrals at this time, yes. As it relates to any meetings that she may have had with the White House, I would have to say at this time, we should not. It's permissible to press inquiries, etcetera, but as it relates to the meeting specifically in September, etcetera, I think we have to be very careful. Senator KERRY. Mr. Chairman, I do not think it bears-I do not want to take from my colleagues time but senator D'AMATO. I hope we would restore his time. Senator KERRY. Absolutely, I think so. But every time these questions are dropped, and then there is a sort of statement about well, we cannot go into these things or something, then the listening public says, we will, what is going on, what is going on. And I think it bears repeating, in fairness, that this Committee is not trying to not go into something. We are not preventing the Senator from pursuing these at some point. We are simply adhering to the standards established by the Committee and the Senate to protect the investigation of the Special Prosecutor. There is going to be a second go around and we will all have an opportunity to do this. I do not want to leave an impression that somehow the White House, the Administration, this Committee are involved in not pursuing something, and so we are not just leaving questions hanging. There will be a time. The CHAIRMAN. Well, it should further be said, every White House person is appearing here voluntarily. All the documents have been turned over voluntarily. We have not subpoenaed anybody, and have not had to. So everything that we can properly look at at this time that we have asked for, we have been given. But the things that are outside 298 of what we can do now we will just have to it until another time. Senator KERRY, But most importantly, the reason we are not pursuing them now is to protect the integrity of the process and not for any other reason, The CHAIRMAN. That is correct, and in fact, we have been requested in writing by the Prosecutor to do that? Senator D'AMATO. Mr. Chairman, can I The CHAIRMAN. I want to restore-yes? OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR DOMENICI Senator DOMENICI. Mr. Chairman, might I just-without charging this to anybody-make a comment? If you want to, take it off of me, if I have some questions, that is fine. I just want to make a comment regarding Senator Kerry's observation. I think the flip side of what he says is true also. I think it is important for the public to know that there is a lot more to this than we are able to ask about. Some of these answers lead to some very logical follow ups but we are not able to ask them. Senator KERRY. Mr. Chairman, that is not true with respect to the portion that we are now looking-that is just not-that leaves an impression there is a lot more to this. Senator DOMENICI. Well, we are only looking into the Washington component: anything that has to do with the President and with contacts between Treasury and the RTC investigation.
Belgian Royalty In Tokyo
It is a week for royal travelers. Emperor Hirohito and the Crown Prince join with their spouses in welcoming King Baudouin and Queen Fabiola of Belgium, to Japan for a state visit. Tokyo, Japan Emperor Hirohito at the air port to greet King Baudouin and Queen Fabiola of Belgium. MS - The King and Queen of Belgium disembarking from the plane. MCUS - King Baudouin and Emperor Hirohito shaking hands. MS - Japanese military standing at attention. MS - Motorcade leaving the air port.
Balloon Race Ends In Tragedy
A 42 year old grandmother flies to her death in a balloon race from Catalina Islands to the mainland. The hot-air craft are buffeted by high winds and only one entrant reaches the mainland. The body of Mrs. Barbara Keith is found miles off course -- two days after the race. Catalina Islands, California Several hot air balloons on the ground getting ready for the big race. CUS - The burner and the inflation of one of the balloons. CUS - An older couple, the lady holding an umbrella and watching the balloons take off. CUS - Mrs. Barbara Keith putting on her inflatable life jacket and helmet. Mrs. Keith's balloon lifting off the ground, all she has is a seat similar to a swing that she is sitting on. POV - Camera on the balloon records the take off and you see the people on the ground getting smaller and smaller. CUS - Famed balloonist, Don Piccard is seating himself on his balloon for the take off. Only one balloonist made it to the main land, six others had to be rescued from the water and Mrs. Keith was found 2-days later still strapped in her seat besides her submerged balloon.
Ancient Art Saved, Engineers To Move Treasures Of The Nile
An art treasure of the ages is being salvaged through modern engineering sciences. The temples of the Egyptian Pharaoh Rameses II are in the path of flood waters from the Aswan Dam on the Nile. In a $36,000,000 project, they will be sawed into sections and reassembled 200 feet above their original site. Great shots of the temples, interior and exterior. Egypt The temples of the Egyptian Pharaoh Rameses II. CUS - Some of the carvings and inscriptions on the temple. MCUS - Archeologists measuring the inside of the tomb, many drawings and inscriptions on the walls of the tomb. MS - A shot of a carved in stone image of Rameses II, and an engineer measuring the carving. MS - An engineer measuring the head of Rameses II, The head of the carving is three times larger than a man.