King Hassan II of Morocco arrives in Washington for a two day visit with President Kennedy. Union Station concourse is cleared for the welcoming ceremonies, after which there is a gala parade through the sunny, springtime-like streets of the nation's Capital. President and Mrs. Kennedy arrive at Union Station in Washington DC. MS - King Hassan II disembarks from the train. MS - President Kennedy shaking hands with the 34 year old monarch. MS - Down Independence Blvd. drives a squad of motorcycle police. MS - President John Kennedy and King Hassan II standing up in a convertible, in a Washington welcome motorcade waving to the people who are lining the streets. POV - The White House with people standing along the fence from on of the cars on the motorcade. CUS - Two news photographers taking pictures with 16 mm cameras. MCUS - President Kennedy standing with King Hassan II.
England's inter-collegiate sport classic, the Oxford-Cambridge boat race starts off with favored Cambridge well ahead. But the Oxford crew, stroked by American Duncan Spencer forge ahead and cross the finish line an easy winner in the Century-old rivalry. Throngs milling around at the Oxford / Cambridge boat race. MSL - Some of the long boats are in the water. MLS - There is a real regatta going on here between Oxford and Cambridge. MCUS - A young gal looking through binoculars. MCUS - Team rowing a long boat and its Cambridge who pulls out to a early lead. Camera pans over to Oxford rowing their boat. And its starting to catch up with Cambridge. MOHS - Oxford shoots out from under the bridge and is now in the lead. MS - The back of the Cambridge boat with the Oxford boat in front of them in a very good lead. CUS - Regatta fans taking pictures and yelling. MOHS - Oxford rowing its boat over the finish line at a very impressive lead of 5-lengths.
(13:20:50) Senator HATCH. Do you recall having a telephone conversation with Ms. Hanson on Saturday, February 5, 1994? Ms. KuLKA. I don't recall the date of any specific conversations, sir. Senator HATCH. But you did have a conversation with her at or near that time? Ms. KuLKA. That's quite likely. Senator HATCH. According to Ms. Hanson's deposition, she telephoned you at home on Saturday, February 5, 1994. Outside of the actual date, do you remember her calling you at home? Ms. KuLKA. I remember her calling me at home. Senator HATCH. Do you recall that conversation? Ms. KULKA, I don't know if I can identify the contents of the conversation with the place, sir, but if you tell what-I'll be happy to tell you whether I know the substance of what you would like to hear about it. Senator HATCH. Let's go to that and see what we can do here. During this conversation, you and Ms. Hanson discussed the Special Counsel's charter, and whether the charter's reference to giving Mr. Fiske civil jurisdiction could be read to cover the RTC's civil investigation. Do you remember that? Ms. KuLKA, Yes. 53 Senator HATCH. Is it not true that during the discussion or conversation you discussed an earlier discussion you had with Special Counsel Fiske? Ms. KULKA. I discussed a reference in that context. Senator HATCH. The conversation you bad with Fiske concerned the scope of his investigation and whether or not he was interested in pursuing the RTC civil litigation. Is that right? Ms. KuLKA. Not quite, sir. If I may, I would be happy to tell you-I made contact with Mr. Fiske shortly after he was appointed, to express our desire to cooperate and coordinate. We were discussing the timetable in which the RTC was operating under with the February 28, 1994, statute of limitations. He said , "I would not like to be in your position at this moment." From that, I took it that be was rather glad that he did not have our aspect of the litigation. Senator HATCH. If you recall, isn't it true, you then informed Ms. Hanson that it was your impression from your discussion or your casual conversation with Mr. Fiske that he did not intend to pursue RTC civil matters? Ms. KuLKA. No, sir, if I might give you the context of that conversation. Ms. Hanson asked me if it might be more effective and maybe easier for the RTC to function if Mr. Fiske did take that over, if he was likely to do it, and if he could do it. I think I told her it was a little more complicated because, although Mr. Fiske had clearly been given civil as well as criminal jurisdiction, he only had that which Ms. Reno could delegate to him. In our case, we had independent litigating authority at our agency, and we could use the Justice Department, therefore, Ms. Reno could delegate what we had assigned to them or we could litigate it ourselves. But, I didn't think that, based on my understanding without doing research, he had more than Ms. Reno could assign, and we bad the initial choice of how our litigation was handled. Senator HATCH. Ms. Hanson asked you to let Mr. Fiske take over the case? Ms. KuLKA. No, she just asked me what I thought about it and that's what I told her. I told her I didn't know if he would be enthusiastic about it based on the comment I've described to you. Senator HATCH. Was it your view that this information you discussed with her was confidential? Ms. KuLKA. I didn't have any view. I didn't make any assumption about it. Senator HATCH. Ms. Hanson informed you that she had been called by Mr. Nussbaum, and that her call was being made pursuant to instructions from Mr. Altman? Ms. KuLKA. With respect to that issue? Senator HATCH. That's correct. Ms. KuLKA. No. Senator HATCH. February 5, the date Ms. Hanson believes this conversation occurred, was only 2 days after Ms. Hanson bad inquired about you providing a private briefing to the Clintons' attorney, Mr. Kendall. Is that right? Ms. KULKA. I don't know if it was a briefing, sir, but she asked me to contact him, yes. 54 Senator HATCH. Is it common for the RTC to discuss with someone outside the RTC the jurisdictional deliberations it is having with the Department of Justice as they relate to a specific case? Ms. KuLKA, I don't know what is common, sir. I only know what I've done since I've been there and I haven't had the occasion to do that. The CHAIRMAN. The question is would you do that? You turneddown that request, did you not? Ms. KULKA. Yes, but I didn't turn it down because I thought there was anything startling, sir, because at some point we would be contacting attorneys The CHAIRMAN. Why did you turn it down? Ms. KuLKA. I thought we hadn't focused on any particular individual It would be rash to do it. It would have an inappropriate appearance to either make people assume, if they became aware that the Clintons were going to be defendants, that that was the likelihood or that, in fact, we were popping the question earlier than we should and therefore doing something we would not do in the ordinary course. For those various reasons, I thought it was unwise to do that. Senator DODD. Mr. Chairman, just on that point, it's not uncommon for private attorneys to be in touch with the RTC? Ms. KULKA. Absolutely, sir. It's perfectly common along the process as you develop your information. You're getting information from various people, You're talking to them about it, and those are consistent with your role in terms of representative
"U.S. Air Force planes are on a routine astronaut recovery practice mission when tragedy strikes. Two planes collide, only 2 men are able to bail out & 20 others go down with the craft. Five men are pulled from the sea, but 17 are killed." Panning TLS USAF transport plane taking off. Air to air shots of plane in flight. Air to air shot of twin propellers spinning. Animation of explosion. LS two planes just after mid-air collision, debris & wreckage hurtling toward sea. LSs smoldering debris drifting in sea.
United States Bolsters Forces - Planes And Men Rushed To Asia. Swift and sure has been U.S. retaliation for communist PT Boat attacks on the high seas. The "Maddox" and the "C. Turner Joy" were attacked while patrolling international waters in the Gulf Of Tonkin off north Vietnam. War planes from two carriers avenged the unwarranted red assault with 64 sorties against North Vietnam Pt Bases. Twenty-five boats - more than half the fleet - were destroyed and oil reserves badly damaged. President Lyndon Johnson went before the people to announce the U.S. action and Ambassador Adlai Stevenson reported to the United Nations. Meanwhile, a massive U.S buildup is under way in southeast Asia as people of all political faiths rally behind the President in this crisis. Vietnam A naval aircraft carrier with the wings of the plane folded on the deck of the ship. MS - PT Boat 731, USS Maddox . OHS - Aerial shot of a aircraft carrier and plane taking off from its deck. MLS - An aircraft carrier. A torpedo being fed through the tubes of the ship. MS - Pilots climbing up to their cock pits in the jet fighters. MS - Jets taking off of the bridge of an aircraft carrier. Washington, DC Night shot in Washington, DC - The White House standing out in the dark by the out side lights. President Johnson steps up to the podium to report to the nation on the crises taking place in the sea's off of Vietnam. President Johnson, "In the larger sense this new act of aggression, aimed directly at our own forces, again brings home to all of us in the United States the importance of the struggle for peace and security in southeast Asia. Aggression by terror against the peaceful villagers of South Vietnam has now been joined by open aggression on the high seas against the United States of America. The determination of all Americans to carry out our full commitment to the people and to the government of South Vietnam will be redoubled by this outrage. Yet our response, for the present, will be limited and fitting. We Americans know, although others appear to forget, the risks of spreading conflict. We still seek no wider war. I have instructed the Secretary of State to make this position totally clear to friends and to adversaries and, indeed, to all. I have instructed Ambassador Stevenson to raise this matter immediately and urgently before the Security Council of the United Nations." New York, NY Inside the United Nation's Building in New York City. Ambassador Stevenson, "In South East Asia, we want nothing more and nothing less than the assured and guaranteed independence of the peoples of that area. We are in South East Asia to help our friends to receive their own opportunity to be free of imported terror and alien assassination managed by the North Vietnam Communists based in Hanoi and backed by the Chinese Communist of Beijing." Vietnam CUS - American soldiers being instructor by their head military advisor. CUS - Military helicopter and soldiers climbing inside and one is holding a bazooka. Helicopter leaving its pad. Air to Air - Helicopters in flight. One soldier a quarter of the way hanging out of the helicopter with a machine gun. Air born paratroopers jumping out of the helicopter. Soldiers patrolling the area where they landed in rice fields. The platoon of soldiers carefully patrol the rice field for the enemy. Soldiers sitting on the back of a truck being transporter to another location. United States air squadrons landing their aircraft. Washington, DC President Johnson, "It is a solemn responsibility to have to order even limited military action by forces whose overall strength is as vast and as awesome as those of the United States of America, but it is my considered conviction, shared throughout your Government, that firmness in the right is indispensable today for peace; that firmness will always be measured. Its mission is peace."
(13:25:45) The CHAIRMAN. Let's not confuse these things. There's a question as to whether they call you or you call them. Ms. KuLKA. It could be either, sir. The CHAIRMAN. I know. But the question is who initiates it? Ms. KULKA. It depends on the circumstance. I couldn't-it could be appropriate in either case, depending on the The CHAIRMAN. If you felt that-you've just testified-let's not skate all over the place here. You've just testified in this instanceyour time had expired. Senator DOMENICI. Now it's expired. Could I finish with my line of questioning, sir? The CHAIRMAN. You didn't think it was something you should do and that's why you decided not to do it? Ms. KULKA. That's correct. Senator DODD, It was a question of timing? Ms. KuLKA. That's absolutely right. Senator DODD. Not as to the appropriateness of it, whether or not there was a contact, just the timing of the contact? Ms. KULKA. It was the timing and what I thought the inferences were that didn't need to be drawn. Senator HATCH. Mr. Chairman The CHAIRMAN. Very briefly, and then I have to yield to Senator Sarbanes. Senator HATCH. I just have these final few questions in this line of questioning that I think might shed some light on it, if I could. Jumping ahead a bit, the Banking Committee deposed Ms. Hanson and in her deposition, Ms. Hanson testified sometime around 55 February 24 or 25, 1994, she contacted you to "inquire" as to how Mr. Stephens had been hired. Do you recall that conversation? Ms. KuLKA. I don't have a specific recollection of it, sir. Senator HATCH. Could I just ask two questions of Mr. Ryan a then The CHAIRMAN. I don't want to say no to you, Senator Hatch, but we're over the time period. Senator HATCH. It will only take a second. The CHAIRMAN. If it's a follow-up to this and it's only a minute or so I'd be happy to oblige because I don't want to be arbitrary to any Senator'. Senator HATCH. Mr. Ryan, in response to an earlier question, you stated that you do not recall informing anyone at the RTC that you would prefer to be able to say that Whitewater did not cause a loss to Madison. Just to be clear, do you deny ever having made such a statement? Mr. RYAN. I don't recall ever having made that statement. Senator HATCH. You don't deny it then? Mr. RYAN. I don't remember ever 'having made that statement Senator HATCH. Is it possible you could have made that state- ment? Mr. RYAN, I don't know. Senator HATCH. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRmAN. Thank you. Senator Sarbanes. OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR PAUL S. SARBANES Senator SARBANES. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. First of all, Ms. Kulka, I want to be clear on this last point that was being discussed with Senators Hatch, Riegle, and Dodd. The RTC does have conversations with the attorneys for private parties that are involved in matters that you're examining, does it not? Ms. KuLKA. Yes, sir. Senator SARBANES. That's an ordinary occurrence, I would assume. Ms. KuLKA. Yes, sir. Senator SARBANES. In fact, some reference was made to getting tolling agreements, and I don't see how you could get a tolling agreement if you, didn't discuss it with the attorney for the private party from whom om you were trying to get the agreement. Wouldn't that be the case? Ms. KuLKA. That's correct. Senator SARBANES. So,, you and Mr. Ryan, in this instance when You said you didn't think such a conversation should take place, it wasn't because you have a general position that such conversations Ought not to occur, but it was because you thought the timing of this was premature, I think, was the word you used, Mr. Ryan. Is that correct? Mr. RYAN, That's correct, Senator SARBANES. I want to ask you, let me first try to get these so-called criminal referrals into perspective. I take it the RTC refers matters to the Justice Department for possible criminal action and I think, Mr. Roelle, you said in those instances where criminal activity In have occurred. Is that correct? gay Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir. 56 Senator SARBANES. I gather the standard for a referral is lower than even probable cause. Would that be correct? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir. Senator SARBANES. In bow many cases in which the RTC makes such a referral to the Justice Department for possible action, does the Justice Department end up, in fact, bringing an indictment in a criminal case? Do you have any idea, just a rough percentage? 7 Mr. RoELLE. A rough percentage, I would think, would probably be less than 10 percent, perhaps even less than 5 percent. Senator SARBANES. Less than 5 percent. So there's-in other words, there are a great many referrals that are made, but a relatively few number of cases on which the Department of Justice then proceeds. Is that correct? Mr. ROELLE. That's correct, sir. Senator Sarbanes. I guess I want to ask Mr. Ryan and Ms. Kulka this question, Of course, we're looking very carefully into these discussions and contacts that took place, and we'll be examining other witnesses that will come before us this week with respect to those matters. I'm interested to know from you, though, as the Acting Director of the RTC and the General Counsel, if any of the referrals involving Madison are in a different posture today than they would have been bad none of these discussions taken place or-I mean, you had these discussions going on, but had these cases moved, in effect, on a straight track and today they're more or less where they would have been in any case?
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