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Tokyo Monorail: New Line To Speed Visitors to Olympics
Clip: 425336_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1727
Original Film: 037-067-02
HD: N/A
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Timecode: 00:16:19 - 00:17:25

With the Olympic Games drawing in Tokyo. This is the longest Monorail in the world and will whisk passengers from the airport to the center of the city, eight miles away. It's operation will be watched with interest by traffic engineers, some of whom feel it is the answer to big city transportation problems. Monorail trains are put back into operation and checked out. Inside the head car you see the engineer looking down at the control panels. Inside one of the cars people are seated and enjoying a quiet ride at 60 MPH. POV - Traveling down the rail sitting in the engineers seat. POV - Looking out the window the Monorail passes an airport and is headed down into a tunnel. Looking up at the Monorail passing Tokyo Bay.

August 1, 1994 - Part 2
Clip: 460121_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10057
Original Film: 102865
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(12:50:50) Senator BOXER, I'm trying to understand why we spend taxpayer money on things people are going to read in the paper that I think take time away from the le ultimate work of the RTC. You've got a lot of work to do, a lot of cases out there, a lot of money out there. I'd like to ask, if I have a little more time here, Mr. Ryan, ou say in your deposition the Madison Guaranty investigation had been closed before and that the decision had been made sometime 43 back in 1990-91 that there wasn't a cost-effective case at Madison That was when George Bush was President, was it not? Mr. RYAN. I believe it was. Senator BOXER, In your deposition you also refer to a closure memo on Madison Guaranty. Are you, aware of the existence of a closure memo relating to Madison guaranty? Mr. RYAN. I am, but I'm not certain-yes, I am. Senator BOXER. Isn't it true that from February 1989 to February 1992 the RTC had the ability to sue wrongdoers at Madison and isn't it also true the ability of the RTC to sue wrongdoers which was dead as of February 1992, was revived by the RTC Completion Act signed into law by President Clinton in 1993? Mr. RYAN. That's correct. Senator BOXER. After the passage of this legislation, did you begin a review of all cases on which the statute expired or just those which would be considered cost-effective? Mr. RYAN. Senator, we've tried to review as many cases that were reopened by the statute as our resources would allow us to review. Unfortunately Senator BOXER. That means cost-effective? Mr. RYAN. Yes. Senator BOXER. Mr. Chairman, I see my time has expired. I have a final sum-up question if I might. The CHAIRMAN. If it's brief Senator BOYER, It is in this line. There was a decision made at the RTC under George Bush that there wasn't a cost-effective case at Madison but then the case was again being reviewed as of December 1993 when President Clinton was in office. Are you aware of anyone at the RTC who was ever pressured by anyone at the White House, White House staff, or Treasury staff not to begin a review specifically of the Madison case? Mr. RYAN. No, Senator. Senator BOXER. Thank you. The CHAIRMAN. I just want to note for the record because it was developed in the testimony, and you made it-you indicated Vol] don't normally come up here and talk with Members of the Congress, House, or Senate. Had there been other occasions? How many times have you done that? Mr. RYAN. Since I've been with the RTC, none, The CHAIRMAN. Senator Domenici, Senator D'AMATO. Mr. Chairman, if I might Mr. RYAN. I'm sorry. I have made several courtesy calls when I was the Acting CEO, but I've never come up at the request of a Senator or his or her office, The CHAIRMAN. It wasn't clear to me from your answer whether you had or had not and I wanted to pin that down. Senator D'Amato, you wanted to- - Senator D'AMATO. Mr. Chairman, let me set a context and later, run on my time, I will spend a little more tit-no developing it. We were trying to &et information as it relates to when the statute of limitations would expire. We were attempting to find out if there be a procedure to guarantee if the statute of limitations Were imminently going to expire, there would be a tolling agreement. In addition, I might say as it related to the meeting which 44 I did not attend, but which staff attended and also which the:' Chairman helped arrange, because we were getting no cooperation as to getting information. We were not trying to get information relating to the substance of the case. We have never asked for the substance of the case. I might say that I have a memo here, that I'll put into the file, to Ben Nye from Peter Knight. He accompanied you to that meeting. Mr. RYAN. Yes. Senator DAMATo. He concluded by saying, "I would not characterize the meeting as a briefing on the status of the Madison civil investigation." That was written March 3, 1994. So it was not written at my request. It was an internal document. The fact of the matter is that, even at that meeting, we were not told when the statute would toll. Subsequently, I came to my colleagues, got eight or nine of them to sign a letter to ask for this information and what would take place, and we learned one thing via the phone call that was thereafter arranged. Again, it was only because Senator Riegle said, come on, respond to the Congress, that we learned the statute might run out February 28, 1994, and there was another interpretation, it might be, I think, March 2 or 3, 1994. That's the only information we got in relation to when the statute of limitations might run out. We were told all other information could not be made available. A far different thing than the briefing that the White House received. I've seen, now, in a number of statements, statements put out by Mr. Cutler, statements put out by others, that the Congress got this briefing, and the White House got the same. Absolutely nonsense.

The Convention - Keynote Speech Sets Dems Theme
Clip: 425338_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1727
Original Film: 037-068-01
HD: N/A
Location: Atlantic City, New Jersey and Washington DC
Timecode: 00:19:28 - 00:22:23

Senator John O. Pastore of Rhode Island sets the theme of the Democratic National Convention as he delivers the keynote address before a capacity audience at the Atlantic City Convention Hall. The Vice-Presidential hopefuls are all on hand as the President continues to keep the choice of his running-mate a secret. Mr. Johnson will be nominated by acclamation and it is expected that the Vice-President will be named unanimously, also. Atlantic City, New Jersey Exterior of the convention building where the democratic National Convention is being held, A statue of a donkey holding a top hat in his hand and a LBJ Bandwagon. Campaign volunteers walking outside the building holding signs and balloons. A volunteer worker driving a golf with the donkey that looks like a kangaroo and following behind him is the LBJ Bandwagon. Being the Bandwagon is a donkey with a blanket draped over his back; 'Young Citizens for Johnson' CUS - LBJ Campaign Button. Women and children, some of the women have white with dark lenses pussycat sun glasses on. Senator Mike Mansfield of Montana disembarks from a plane. Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota. Senator Eugene McCarthy. Democratic Supporters holding up their signs. LBJ signs, banners and pictures. John O. Pastore, Rode Island, "America now moves on with majesty of these nine miracle months. Never in so short a time has so much been accomplished that is good and great for our country. These months confirm the wisdom of our fallen leader and the vision of President Kennedy lives on in the character, the capability and the courage of his team mate of his choice. With all the sincerity in my soul, I say that God did bless America on that day four years ago in Los Angeles, when John F. Kennedy said, 'I need you, Lyndon Johnson' and on November the 3rd the American people echoed that call, 'We need you, President Lyndon B. Johnson.'" Washington DC President Johnson going for a walk with his two Beagle dogs and Lady Bird at his side. As President Johnson and his entourage passing the White House in the back ground.

Speedboats
Clip: 425339_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-077-08
HD: N/A
Location: Holland
Timecode: -

The first major speedboat race ever held in Holland is won by a British entry, D. Burton. Roaring around dangerous turns and down straightaways, the 3-hour event thrills spectators.

Texas Floods
Clip: 425340_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-078-01
HD: N/A
Location: Texas Coastal Region
Timecode: -

Disastrous floods follow in the wake of Hurricane Beulah in Texas. Levees give way and the lower Rio Grande Valley is covered. Some 30,000 flee their homes and damage estimates run as high as a billion dollars. Several city scenes show heavy winds blowing street signs, the roofs off buildings and debris down city streets. The Brownsville Airport is shown underwater. Several aerial shots show neighborhoods underwater. Other aerial shots show-flattened communities destroyed by wind.

Queen Mary
Clip: 425341_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-078-02
HD: N/A
Location: New York City
Timecode: -

The Queen Mary sails from New York for the last time, before retirement. The "Mary", a troop ship during W.W. II has had 31 years of elegant Atlantic crossings. She'll become a hotel-museum in Long Beach, California. Onlookers watch as the Queen Mary pulls out of harbor. They cheer and wave. A fire hose boat shoots streams of water into the air. Shot of the Statue of Liberty. Various shots of the ship moving as tugs surround it.

Wedding
Clip: 425343_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-078-04
HD: N/A
Location: California
Timecode: -

Secretary of State Rusk's daughter, Margaret Elizabeth, weds Negro Air Force Reservist Guy Gibson Smith. Rusk reportedly was prepared to resign if the interracial marriage embarrassed the administration. President Johnson ignored the formal gesture of traditional ceremony. The couple stands on the steps of a church smiling and kissing.

O.A.S.
Clip: 425344_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-078-05
HD: N/A
Location: Washington, D.C.
Timecode: -

While anti-Castro Cubans march outside, 21 Latin-American foreign ministers condemn Castro's regime for subversion in the Western Hemisphere and they vote for tighter border and coast patrols, and increased trade sanctions as a retaliation. Marchers carry flags and banners. Most demonstrators are women. There is a wreath laying ceremony.

August 1, 1994 - Part 2
Clip: 460122_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10057
Original Film: 102865
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(12:55:54) Senator BOXER. Point of information Senator DAMATO. Absolutely nonsense and I want that to go into the record. I think it's important. I'll ask, Mr. Chairman, that this letter be put in as part of the record. The CHAIRMAN, Without objection. Senator Boxer, you're seeking recognition. Senator BOXER. My point of information is, I was just going to say, that I had a line of questioning, and I asked it for a specific reason, I have no problem with Senator D'Amato putting his statement, but then to go on to say it's different than what occurred at the White House when there's some confusion on that, I think, is going beyond responding to my line of questioning. Senator D'AMATo. There's no confusion by way of the depositions given by the people who gave the briefings and we'll get into that. Senator BOXER. But we've had people here Senator DAMATO. They did not, give the briefings to the White House. Mr. Altman gave the briefings to the White House. Ms. Hanson testifies as to what took place. Ms. Kulka refused, she said no. When asked to speak to private counsel, she said no. The CHAIRMAN. We can develop this further as we go along. Senator Domenici. OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR PETE V. DOMENICI Senator DOMENICI, Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I'm more than delighted to let that feud go on, if you'd like. 45 Mr. Chairman, first of all, I want to say to the witnesses, I appreciate the difficult position you all are in also. You expressed your concern, some of you, about the difficult position Roger Altman was put in but I'd like to explore that a little bit. I think, essential] , the fact that he was put in a difficult position did not that be could not have extricated himself from that difficult mean position at any number of times during his tenure in wearing two hats. Let me start: Who was it that said Roger Altman wanted this case treated like all other cases? Mr. RYAN. That was me. Senator Domenici. Would you agree now that it was not? Mr. RYAN, I would agree that it was not in certain respects; that's correct, Senator DOMENICI. Is there any doubt in your mind that Roger Altman, in these various discussions and given what you know about the message he carried to the White House, was treating the case differently than other cases that you had talked with him about? . Mr. RYAN. I think that's correct. Senator DOMENICI. What's going to happen is I don't believe we're going to be able to find out why, in this first round of hearin S. But I believe there are many inferences that will come from this. This is the very narrow part of the investigation, and I have in the back of my mind-and I'm sure many people watching are wondering-why did all of this take place? What was the White House trying to do or not do in gathering up this unique information, much of which was totally confidential? Now, having said that, let me ask, Mr. Ryan, as an experienced person in this field, would it be appropriate to tell the subject of an investigation that the investigation would not he completed before the statute of limitations expired? Mr. RYAN. No, I don't believe so, sir. Senator DOMENICI. What could the impact of that be? Mr. RYAN. Obviously, the impact could have various effects on the investigation. Senator DOMENICI, But, if there's a reason for not doing it, then there might very well be important ramifications that are prejudicial to one party or the other or people if that occurs. Is that right? Mr. RYAN, I think that's correct, Senator DOMENICI, Evidence could be, in certain instances, done away with. People could make it more difficult to gather the facts. People could be told about the situation and they could act accordingly. Isn't that correct? Mr. RYAN. Yes, sir. For all those reasons we keep these matters confidential es, Senator DOMENICI. When I think about this case and say, "What happened to this information," I know, -more or less, which people were at all those meetings. But, just so everyone will understand what worries me, I wonder where this information ended up after it was delivered, principally by Roger Altman, to the big meeting on February 27 1994, and the two meetings before that, one in September anyone on October 14, 1993. 1 just want to read a list of 46 people in the White House that know what Roger Altman knows and know much about this confidential information. This is just an abbreviated list of who would know. I give it to you because it seems to me, if you're concerned about, keeping information from getting out, it should be important to us to 11 know who bad this information because the more who know, the more it goes.

Vietnam
Clip: 425342_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-078-03
HD: N/A
Location: Vietnam - rural
Timecode: -

U.S. and South Vietnamese troops combine in a concerted "pacification" program of teaching, building, and helping in the village areas. It's a battle against the Vietcong for support among the peasants. A rural country road is lined with shacks and trees. American soldiers walk through a market. A soldier picks up a crying boy. Another washes a young boy's neck in a medical tent. A mother holds a screaming child. American soldiers jump from a bridge into water. Vietnamese woman scrub clothing on rocks. A group of young boys swim near the shore.

New Fokker F-28 Jet Airliner
Clip: 425402_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1765
Original Film: 040-086-02
HD: N/A
Location: Bremen, Germany
Timecode: 00:36:16 - 00:36:45

"A new turbo-jet passenger-transport, manufactured together by Germany, Holland, and England, goes on display in Bremen. Special brakes and tires allow short takeoffs and landings." TLS/MSs twin engine Fokker F-28 Fellowship passenger jet parked on tarmac. MSs cockpit nose. MS Rolls Royce engine. MS small group of spectators. Sideview TLS F28 taxiing.

Popeye
Clip: 425456_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1766
Original Film: 040-093-04
HD: N/A
Location: New York City
Timecode: 00:30:21 - 00:30:59

33. Popeye, the Sailor, beloved balloon and star of Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade for the past ten years, is retired from service due to wear and tear. A retirement party is held in Central Park. The Popeye balloon stands tilted over as workers hold its' ropes. Children push against a police blockade to get a look at the character. Workers are dressed in checkered clown outfits. They tug on its' ropes and smile. Close-up of the balloon's face.

Sacred Cows
Clip: 425457_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1766
Original Film: 040-093-05
HD: N/A
Location: India - cow festiva
Timecode: -

India's annual "Festival of the Sacred Cows" includes the feeding, decorating, washing and worshipping of cows. It's also a public festival and the faithful celebrate at the fairgrounds. A group of women gather around a cow so as to decorate it with flowers and homemade jewelry. Water is splashed on the cow's legs to wash them. Three cows eat from a troth. Worshipers light butter-oil candles. A large crowd gathers in a public square. Two boys hold the ropes of two large cows as worshipers walk around them.

August 1, 1994 - Part 2
Clip: 460124_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10057
Original Film: 102865
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(13:05:12) Senator DOMENICI. Might I ask one last question, Counselor Kulka? I'm just going to read as succinctly as I can what Harold Ickes said while being, deposed under oath. He was asked by Mr. Bennett, one of the counsels, to recall the subject and what was discussed and he said, "Go ahead." Mr. Bennett said "Guess, do your best." And in the second paragraph of the answer he says this: 'The purpose of this meeting. . ."-the February 2, 1994, meeting which you helped brief him on, to get him ready for that meeting, as I understand it, did you not? Ms. KULKA. I didn't brief Mr. Ickes on anything, sir. Senator DOMENIci. No, you helped brief Altman. Ms. KuLKA. I may have had a meeting with Mr. Altman before that date. Senator DOMENICi. But look, be says this: "The purpose of this meeting and the focus of this discussion was the amount of time in which he felt this investigation might be wrapped up," and said, at least in so many words that it "was his understanding that the investigation probably would not be concluded, that a determination could not be Me by the RTC's General Counsel as to whether there was a basis for a civil claim until the expiration of the statute of limitations, as applied to that particular investigation." From what I gather here, Harold Ickes is saying that Mr. Altman said that, I believe Jean Hanson says that. Are you telling us that you did not tell him, Mr. Altman, that you did not have a case ready to go by statute of limitations time? Ms. KULKA. No, I never said we would not have a case read to go, and I said, and I think anybody who brings a case on behalf of a plaintiff, whether it's a criminal case or a civil case, knows that the more time you have, the better the job often is that you can do. Furthermore, the bringing of a complaint, the filing of a civiliam-a civil complaint does not terminate the discovery period. In other circumstances, it merely commences it. Everybody knows that you don't have to have all of your information in place when You bring the complaint. You can continue your discovery and we would have continued our discovery if it was deemed to be necessary. That much I told Mr. Altman. Also, I clearly told Mr. Altman that we would put our selves in a position, to the best we could, where we would be able to file complaints as long as we were not violating Rule 11 and fil- ing bad faith complaints which were not based on fact or that were frivolous. If we couldn't do that we wouldn't be able to make a rec- But, if we could do that, we thought we could make 48 a, recommendation which might mean those complaints might get amended as further information came down, or it would just be put in through the process of the civil litigation Senator DOMENICI. Obviously, Mr. Altman will have the last chance to explain it. I thank the chair and thank the witnesses. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Murray. OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR PATTY MURRAY Senator MURRAY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to follow UP on what Senator Boxer brought up be. cause I an confused Mr, Ryan, you answered her question saying that you spoke to a Senator or Senate staff about the issue of the statute of limitations. Mr. RYAN. I was present -at a meeting -in which the questions about when the statute of limitations expired were raised. Senator MURRAY. Was that, prior to the February 2, 1994, White House meeting? Mr. RYAN. I believe so. Let me see -- January 24, 1994. Senator MURRAY. Janua-ry 24, 1994. So, that was prior to Roger Altman's meeting with the IL staff February 2, 1994? Mr. RYAN That's correct. Senator MURRAY. Are you aware that RTC lawyers spoke by telephone with lawyers of Senator D'Amato's staff later that week? Mr. RYAN. That's my understanding. Senator MURRAY. Can you tell us what was discussed -in that phone conversation? Mr. RYAN. I can't. I'm merely aware that conversation took place. Senator MURRAY. But, from what you were saying to me, member of the Senator's staff knew the information about the statute of limitations and, indeed, as we all know here, confidentiality doesn't last very 'ion-. It could have been that the White House found out that information from the Senate before Roger Altman ever talked to them. Is that correct? A possibility? Mr. RYAN. I don't have any idea. Senator MURRAY. It is a possibility since that information was out there. The other discussion item that really had me concerned was leaks. I am one of those people who believes that the public should have all information. That is part of our responsibility. However, leaks cause consternation. You said the RTC is ail information sieve, I believe that's what you said. Mr, RYAN. I did. Senator MURRAY. Do you think, that leaks to the press might ac- tually work to hinder investigations?

Moon Buggies
Clip: 425346_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-078-07
HD: N/A
Location: Arizona - testing site
Timecode: -

Scientists use mock-up lunar landing site to test whether future moon men can pinpoint their location. Moon buggies are tested, too, over craters, which duplicate the moon's surface. An open field has been craters to represent a region of the moon. Large holes dot the landscape. A technician sits in a moon buggy and then maneuvers it through various craters. Close-up shot of the technician griping the buggy's joystick.

Alabama VS. Florida State
Clip: 425347_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-078-08
HD: N/A
Location: Stadium
Timecode: -

At Birmingham, the collegiate opener for Alabama and Florida State is a ding-dong scoring battle all the way. Final score: 37-37 and FSU stops Alabama's two-year, 17 game winning streak. A black screen reads, "FOOTBALL - Alabama 37 - Florida State 37." Crowd shot, punt return, 51-yard score, interception. The crowd rushes the field. Alright footage, high energy.

Flood
Clip: 425348_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-079-01
HD: N/A
Location: USA, Mexico
Timecode: -

The Rio Grande overflows its banks and both Texas and Mexico sustains massive damage. Some 200,000 are homeless, more than 40 dead and total damage tops one billion dollars. It'll take many months before life returns to normal. Several aerial shots of communities underwater. Close-up of house submerged. People and children wade through or swim in flooded streets. First aid station, food line. Great shot of a young child sleeping on a cot with a diaper on and holding a baby bottle. Another shot of an old man lying on a cot asleep with his shirt off.

U.N. Meeting
Clip: 425349_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-079-02
HD: N/A
Location: New York City
Timecode: -

The U.S., France, Russia, and Great Britain are represented at an informal dinner-discussion, hosted by UN Secretary-General Thant. Key problems discussed include Vietnam and the Middle East. The exterior of the UN Building is a shin during the night. Dignitaries walk through a carousal door and are greeted by onlookers. Shot of all foreign dignitaries shaking hands and standing for photographs with each other.

August 1, 1994 - Part 2
Clip: 460125_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10057
Original Film: 102865
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(13:10:20) Mr. RYAN. Yes, I do, Senator. I've thought a lot about this. The responsibility for maintaining the confidentiality of that information, of any information, investigative or otherwise, that could damage a case that the RTC is bringing, is a responsibility first and foremost of the RTC itself. We haven't been very good about keeping those matters confidential. It's almost a certainty that any matter that has any kind of public interest at all is leaked to the press prematurely. Senator MURRAY. So, it could indeed damage a case that you have in front of you? 49 Mr. RYAN. It could, and we're quite I concerned about it. I think partly it's the nature of the RTC, We have 6,500 employees, many of whom are going to be out of a job come tile end of next year when the RTC goes out of business. There's riot much of an incentive for institutional loyalty. There's not much concern by the employees of RTC about doing something that might affect their em-ployment there, and we've had a lot of premature leaks of very sensitive information.' Senator MURRAY. What are your plans to deal with that? Mr. RYAN. We've tried to impress upon the staff the need to preserve that confidentiality. We've tried to deal with their anxieties about what's going to happen with their em ployment. Senator MURRAY. Are you going to continue to print the RTC Early Bird? Mr. RYAN. Um The CHAiRmAN, Let me offer an opinion. I sure hope you don't, just as one observer, 1 think, if there is one thing that's clear now, that document has outlived its usefulness, but excuse me-, Senator Murray. Senator MURRAY. Thank you, Mr, Chairman, I would like to ask Mr. Katsanos a question at this point. Senator BoxER. Did you get an answer to your question? Senator MURRAY. Mr. Ryan, first, could you tell me if you're going to continue to have the Early Bird printed? Mr. RYAN. I hadn't considered terminating it, but we'll certainly consider it. Senator MURRAY. Mr. Katsanos, in terms of this Early Bird, are you aware that it's also known as the 'leak sheet? Mr. KATSANos. No, Senator, I wasn't, but I'd like to point something out regarding the Early Bird. Nothing goes into this publication that is not relayed to us by reporters. We don't state what the agency's position is or what the agency's response,,; to the reporters are. The reporters are coming to us first, based on someone they've talked to, frequently someone sitting in the back aisle in this room. They're coming to us with the story, and they asking for our reaction. What we're telling OUT managers IS here's what the reporters have and what we expect could appear. Senator MURRAY. I'm not sure how many employee's you have in the RTC who actually see this, but I assume once it gets put on a piece of paper, it gets disseminated to a lot of people. I can imagine what I'd think if I were an employee in your office, and I re ceived this and saw something that says, The Rose Law Firm's alleged undisclosed conflicts of interest and internal RTC sources, suggestions that multiple referrals to the Justice Department link the. firm's - -members, friends, and loans to insolvent S&L's are being pursued by The Washington Post and the Associated Press. If this comes into some employee's hands who may not be higher-up, it's pretty much public information, wouldn't you say? Mr. KATSANOS, I would have to agree with that, Senator, and that's why each recipient of this publication has been Urged to treat it as a confidential document, not is a public document. I would also point out, Senator, that------- Senator BoxER, Would the Senator yield briefly to me at this Point? Why doesn't it say confidential"? 50 Mr. KATSANOS. I don't know that a stamp mark confidential" would make any difference, Senator. Senator BOXER. I disagree with you completely. Sorry, Senator. Senator MURRAY. I will say that the message I just read is dated September 30, which, I believe, is the day after Jean Hanson went to the White House. I guess I have one other question Mr. KATSANOS. Senator, I recall, in the documents your staff showed me, I did see a Jean Hanson memo with an Early Bird attached that I was told she forwarded to the White House. As I was about to say a moment ago, I had never been aware of this publication making it outside of the RTC until we began distributing it to the Treasury Department. Senator MURRAY. I have one other question, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Katsanos, it's for you. In your opinion, how did The New' York Times receive information about criminal referrals regarding Madison?

25,000 Workers Rush Aswan Dam Completion
Clip: 425229_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1723
Original Film: 037-038-05
HD: N/A
Location: Aswan, Egypt
Timecode: 00:34:29 - 00:35:30

The mighty Aswan Dam in Egypt is being completed on schedule as The mighty Aswan Dam in Egypt is being completed on schedule as laborers work around the clock in order to finish the job. Due for completion in 1970 it will span the river Nile for a distance of 2 miles. Russia is supervising the job. United States and Britain refused request from Egypt for loan toward the project. Aswan, Egypt 25,000 workers pouring from the trains. MLS - The last phase of completion of the Aswan Dam. MOHS - Dump truck unloading tons of rock into the Nile. MSLU - Men on top of the dam welding under advisement of Russian engineers. MS - Sail boats, tug boat and fishing boats in the Nile River. MCUS - A barge dumping tons of rock into the Nile River. MS - Electrical wires leading to the Aswan Dam.

Royalty On Parade: Duke Opens Stadium
Clip: 425310_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1726
Original Film: 037-060-02
HD: N/A
Location: England
Timecode: 00:22:51 - 00:24:00

A posh new sports center is dedicated near London by the Duke of Edinburgh - no mean athlete himself, though his arm is in a sling, from a fall from a polo pony. Built at a cost of $8,000,000 the National Recreation Center will offer facilities for everything from archery to football. Exterior of a new sports center, English Dignitaries milling about. MS - The Duke of Edinburgh exits his chauffeured limousine with his arm in a sling. MS - Inside the new sports center the people are seated every where. MS - Prince Phillip steps up to the podium and people applaud. MS - Prince Philip is walking around the building and their are young athletes everywhere. MS - The Prince is standing on a cat walk and as he looks down he sees two boxing rings and off to the right another area where a boxer can shadow box.. MS - The Prince looks down again and sees girls gymnastics, with the tumble horse, balance beam and tumbling mats. MS - The Prince is in the swimming center and it is pretty state of the art even in today's date. Its has a three platform high dive incorporated platform,. MS - Children s pool with little girls playing a game. MCUS - There's an underwater view of the swimmers as they dive in and swim under water.

Democrats Gather: Atlantic City Plays Host to Convention
Clip: 425335_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1727
Original Film: 037-067-01
HD: N/A
Location: Atlantic City, New Jersey and Washington DC
Timecode: 00:13:10 - 00:16:19

Atlantic City is in a flurry of last-minute preparations for the Democratic Nominating Convention as it prepares to meet at the resort and name Lyndon B. Johnson as their candidate. About the only question is who will be his running-mate as cables are strung, personnel briefed and the chairs dusted off. Meanwhile, in Washington, the President has busy days and nights, before he settles down to campaigning. He greets government "interns", students studying government as they work during the summer, and throws a reception for Congressional leaders, to thank them for their work during this session. Atlantic City, NJ Looking down at Atlantic City. A marquee - Welcome's All Visitors And Democratic National Convention. Billboard - Atlantic City Welcomes - President Lyndon B. Johnson and the Democratic National Convention - August 23rd 1964. On a rotunda monument in the center of town, there's a big Greeting's on the building Washington DC The White House, a crowd, a lot of young Democratic standing outside the White House. President Johnson walking with students on the White House lawn. The President stops to shake hands and greet the workers. There's a salute to Congress on the White House lawn. for congressional leaders. Atlantic City, NJ Big banner of the President. Inside the newly furbished convention hall. Carpenters working. The Teletype room, sign 'Philadelphia Bulletin' - Chicago Sun-Times - Hearst Newspapers King Features Syndicate. Workman pulling and connection miles of wiring. Camera Panning - Convention hall packed with smoke and people. President Johnson and Lady Bird standing at the podium waving to all the people. All the state banners and all kinds of different campaign signs for President Johnson.

August 1, 1994 - Part 2
Clip: 460126_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10057
Original Film: 102865
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(13:15:31) Mr. KATsANos. I have no idea. I would have to concur with my colleagues here, and I'd have to reflect that when I was a reporter, I would have loved to 'have bad the job of covering the RTC. It is, because of the staff here, because of the people within the RTC, one of the easiest a emergencies to cover. One reporter once referred to it as not a very challenging agency. It's like shooting dead fish floating in a barrel of water. It's an exceptionally easy agency to cover. Senator MURRAY. Because you can get information quite easily? Mr. KATSANOS. You can get information from RTC staff and from RTC contractors. You can get information from congressional staff, and that's not unique to the RTC. It's just that since it is such a visible organization with such a controversial job with so many different players involved, it's a simple job as far as a reporter is concerned. Senator MURRAY. I will go back one more time, Mr. Ryan. You did say that leaks can really be a problem in terms of fraud and abuse. Mr. RYAN. Yes, they can. Senator MURRAY. Thank you. The CHAIRMAN. We're going to excuse Mr. Ryan just for a moment. Senator Hatch. OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR ORRIN G. HATCH Senator HATCH. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Kulka, prior to your employment at the RTC you worked for the Office of Thrift Supervision. Is that right? Ms. KuLKA. That's correct. Senator HATCH, While you were at OTS you were involved in the Kaye, Scholer settlement. Right? Ms. KuLKA. That's correct. Senator HATCH, Working on the Kaye, Scholer settlement at OTS, you bad dealings with Bernie Nussbaum and his law firm because they were representing Kaye, Scholer. Is that correct? Ms. KuLKA. I never met Mr. Nussbaum in that context. I had dealings with other of his partners, that's correct. Senator HATCH. But you did work with his law firm. Given your negotiations with Kaye, Scholer in that case, is it your opinion that 51 Mr. Nussbaum may have developed a view that you were tough or aggressive? Ms. KULKA. I try to review back how I handled the negotiations on the financial aspects of that settlement, sir, on the note that represented the payments Senator HATCH. I . had not criticizing you. Ms. KuLKA. -and I behaved in that case as I do in any other, I really don't know what someone would characterize. Senator HATCH. In your deposition, when you were basically asked that question, you said I hope so because that's your job. Right? Ms. KULKA. Yes, sir. Senator HATCH. You said you were "pretty tough" in negotiations. I commend you for it. I don't have any problem with that. I think you also characterize yourself as assertive. Ms. KULKA. Yes, sir. Senator HATCH. When you were hired as General Counsel of the RTC, that was in January 1994, 1 believe. Is that right? Ms, KuLKA. That's correct. Senator HATCH. When you were hired by the RTC, you were interviewed by the Treasury people as well. Is that right? Ms. KULKA. That's correct. Senator HATCH. Mr. Nussbaum never interviewed you? Ms. KuLKA. No. Senator HATCH. As General Counsel you were in charge of all the legal work at the RTC overseeing what, about 500 attorneys or lawyers? Ms. KuLKA. Yes, I think that's correct, sir. Senator HATCH. You mentioned there came a time in January 1994, when the RTC needed to hire an outside counsel to assist in the investigation of Madison. Right? Ms. KuLKA. That's correct. Senator HATCH. The RTC, based on the recommendations of the Senior Counsel and Assistant General Counsel, decided to hire the firm of Pillsbury, Madison, and Sutro. Ms. KULKA. Yes, sir. Senator HATCH. Is it not true that you were informed that Jay Ste Stephens was one of the two partners from Pillsbury, Madison who might head up the investigation? Ms. KuLKA. That's correct. Senator HATCH, You were made aware that jay Stephens was a former U.S. Attorney in the District here. Ms. KULKA. That's correct. Senator HATCH. You discussed the necessary requirements and decided that a former U.S. Attorney should be hired, Ms. KuLKA. There were aspects of the case that made that helpful Senator HATCH. Right. After your own questioning of the Senior Counsel and Assistant Counsel, the RTC selected Mr. Stephens sometime toward the end of January. Is that right? Ms, KuLKA. Mr. Stephens' firm, sir, yes. Senator HATCH. His firm but, in essence, he became one of the counsel. Ms. KuLKA. That's correct. 52 Senator HATCH. Is it accurate to say when outside counsel is hired, the counsel reports to the RTC and the RTC retains final authority over decisions the outside counsel makes on whether to pro- ceed with litigation in any particular case? Ms. KULKA. Absolutely. Senator HATCH. That's my understanding, and is that the rela- tionship that the RTC entered with Mr. Stephens? Ms. KuLKA. Yes, sir. Senator HATCH. Is the RTC's hiring of outside counsel made public? Ms. KULKA, It depends on the circumstances. Senator HATCH, With regard to Fiske and civil jurisdiction when you say "it depends on the circumstances," what does that mean? Ms. KULKA. It depends on whether making anyone aware of the fact that we've hired counsel can affect our strategy in our litigation. Senator HATCH. So, you might withhold that Ms. KULKA. You might withhold it or you might publish it. Senator HATCH. Most of the time it's published, OK. To the Fiske civil jurisdiction, do you recall, shortly after having hired Mr. Stephens, having learned of the Independent Counsel's charter and its arguable grant of civil jurisdiction? Ms. KULKA, I actually think I may have been aware of that before the firm was retained. Senator HATCH. Is it true you bad discussions with Mr. Fiske concerning the scope of the Independent Counselship? Ms. KULKA. I think they were more casual than that. Senator HATCH. But, nevertheless, discussions. Ms. KuLKA. Tangentially.

Fatal Explosion In California
Clip: 425193_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-026-04
HD: N/A
Location: San Jose, California
Timecode: 00:10:25 - 00:11:21

Fatal Explosion In California. Three are killed and scores injured when a boiler explodes beneath a drug store and a dress shop in San Jose, California. Customers, counters and merchandise are hurled through a huge hole torn in the floor of the drug store; both shops are completely wrecked. Evening, fire engine park on the street, Traffic cop directing traffic, older lady with glasses looks into the camera. MS - Fire department and bomb squad experts examining the twist rubble and huge holes left by the exploding boiler. MS - Camera pans the twisted metal and merchandise thrown about. MS - Looking down in the hole are firemen removing lumber. MS - Above the dress shop is a twisted mess, broken liquors bottles , lawn chairs and other merchandise thrown about. MS - Two inspectors checking out the shops and the amount of damage caused by the exploding boiler, in the drug store there are a lot of boxes thrown about, Camera looking up - Dry wall blown right off the rafters and other dry wall still hap hazard'ly still nailed on the rafters in the ceiling, Looking down into the dress shop six firemen are pulling on the boiler and checking its safety valves. MS - Bomb squad inspectors and fire inspectors are checking out the site.

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