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Pakistani Deaths In Thousands
Clip: 426640_1_1
Year Shot: 1965 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1736
Original Film: 038-041-02
HD: N/A
Location: Pakistan
Timecode: 00:02:24 - 00:03:18

One of the worst disasters in history hits East Pakistan. A cyclone and wind-fed tidal waves battered the countryside with unbelievable devastation. 12,000 known dead - with fears the toll will reach 30,000. Pakistan Aftermath in Pakistan resulting from the deadly winds and tidal waves, MS - Homes smashed to smithereens people digging through the rubble. LS - Debris in the harbor of smashed boats. LS - Power lines downed and a few people walking down the street. MS - Metal power bent in half. MS - Trees up-rooted. MS - Two men hands awing a tree limb. MS - Children picking up whatever is salvageable from a flooded street. MS - Twisted trees intermingled with smashed up houses and boats.

Avalanche Traps German Skiers
Clip: 426641_1_1
Year Shot: 1965 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1736
Original Film: 038-041-03
HD: N/A
Location: Garmisch Patenkirchen, Germany
Timecode: 00:03:18 - 00:04:03

Laughter and gaiety was suddenly stilled at a German resort by an awesome avalanche. Rescue teams search day and night at Garmisch-Partenkirchen for those missing. 25 skiers were rescued but ten persons perished. Germany A couple of trucks engulfed by an avalanche. MS - Small group who survived the avalanche. MS - Soldiers, digging looking for survivors. CU - German or Austrian soldier. MS - US rescue helicopter and soldiers waist high in snow. MS - Soldiers with German Sheppard s looking for survivors. CU - Un-reconizable twisted metal. Aerial shot - A line of rescue workers that look like a line of ants.

August 1, 1994 - Part 3
Clip: 460132_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10058
Original Film: 102866
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(13:35:43) The CHAiRMAN, Did you communicate it to Mr. Altman? Mr. RYAN. I think it was communicated to Mr. Altman. I'm not that I ever specifically said I think you ought to recuse Yourself, but I can recall that in the meetings where we were going 58 over questions and answers for the Committee bearing on oversight it was clear Mr. Altman was aware of our views. Ms. KULKA. Mr. Riegle, may I expand on my answer as I sit here thinking about it? The CHAIRMAN. Yes. Ms. KuLKA. I think I made those remarks and held those feelings in the context of Mr. Altman repeatedly saying to Mr.- Ryan and myself, I expect to follow your recommendation, whatever it is in this case. I cannot conceive of not following your recommendation, except if you don't make a recommendation, and I can't imagine that you won't make a recommendation, and in that context, I think, were my thoughts and questions. The CHAiRmAN. The other side of this, as we've gathered these facts, is there's information-some you may have gathered and some to be presented-that there was some pressure on Mr. Altman to not recuse himself coming from people in the White I-louse who expressed a view upon it. It seemed to me-in fact, in your deposition, you were asked the question did Ms. Hanson, who we're going to hear from later today, ever indicate to you or give you the impression by anything she said that there was any pressure being put on Mr. Altman by the White House not to recuse himself.? Why don't you tell us what your view was on that. Ms. KuLKA, I don't think I responded that I thought there was pressure, but at one point in one of our conversations, I walked down the ball with her, and I said, "I just can't believe that he's willing to put himself in this position to take all this political heat when it's clear be's not going to make the actual decision. Why would he ever do it?" And she said to me, Think about it." I a have said to her-I don't know if I said it back to her or I internal ized the thought, that it may have been because the White House did not want him to, but that was it. I don't recall if she responded to me at all. I never had a direct confirmation that there was any White House involvement. The CHAIRMAN. Did you ever understand that there was a point at which Mr. Altman bad reached the point of deciding that he would, in fact, recuse himself? Ms. KULKA. No. The CHAIRMAN. Were you in the Committee room the day-on February 27, 1994-on February 24, 1994, when we had the hearing? You were there, were you not? Ms. KULKA. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN, As you know, there was a series of questions put to Mr. Altman, to which he responded. It's a matter of concern to many people, whether the answers were as clear and complete as they should have been. Were you listening to that exchange at the time? Ms. KuLKA. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN, Did you have any information, based on your experience and your involvements, that would have caused you to feel that the answer was less than complete at the time? Ms. KULKA. No, sir. The CHAiRmAN. Did you think about it that way at the time? Ms. KuLKA. I was listening to all of these answers. There were a number of Q's and A's that were prepared and Mr. Altman said 59 when we were preparing them, "I can't read from things. I'll have to be familiar enough on a huge variety of subjects that might have dealt with the operation of the RTC as well as this. I'll just have to be able to remember enough of that or enough of any one that's appropriate to respond." In that context, there were many things in which we had prepared longer Q's and As where be did not cover the whole ground, I had no more feeling about this, that the answer he had prepared to the question, if it were to come, about White House meetings did go beyond this, specifically to refer to the fact that he had mentioned considering his recusal to the White House, didn't trigger anything in my mind at the time. The CHAIRMAN, How long did you spend ahead of time in the preparation for those answers, those Q's and A's, those prep sessions before the testimony of Mr. Altman? Ms. KULKA. We spent the 6 or 7 days before, on and off, working on it and we had at least two long sessions with Mr. Altman. The CHAIRMAN. How long would those sessions have lasted with Mr. Altman? Ms. KULKA. I would say 2 or 3 hours at a time. The CHAIRMAN. You probably spent 5 or 6 hours with him alone in addition to the other time the staff bad spent working everything up on this. Is that correct?

Ticker-Tape Town: Gotham Welcomes King Hassan
Clip: 425201_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-028-02
HD: N/A
Location: New York, NY
Timecode: 00:21:03 - 00:21:53

Gotham Welcomes King Hassan. After an official reception in Washington, King Hassan of Morocco gets the traditional one in New York -- a parade up lower Broadway to City Hall. The 33 year-old Monarch breaks with precedent and walks part of the way. State visit ticker tape parade and King Hassan is standing up in a convertible waving to the people, CUS - Crowds standing on the sidewalk's in back of horse barricades. MCUS - King Hassan walking down the street enjoying the ticker tape and crowds. MS - People behind the crowd control horses are waving flags from Morocco and American flags. MS - An officer from every branch of the military service stand at attention saluting King Hassan.

The Ugly American First Film Premiere in Southeast Asia
Clip: 425202_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-028-03
HD: N/A
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
Timecode: 00:21:53 - 00:23:19

Marlon Brando, producer-director George Englund and H.K. Kukrit are the moving light behind "The Ugly American" which has its world premiere in Bangkok. President Milton Rackmil and Vice-President Americo Aboaf of Universal Pictures are also in attendance as the King and Queen of Thailand preside at the gala premiere of a picture that promises to cause more talk than any motion picture in recent years. Marllon Brando, actor and director George Englund disembark for plane. MS - Bangkok press on the tarmac taking pictures. MSLU - Marlon Brando and George Englund surrounded by Universal International Pictures staff of Thailand standing on a balcony with a huge bannor hanging, 'Universal International Pictures - Welcome To Bangkok - Marlon Brando & George Englund'. CUS Milton Rackmil and Vice-President Americo Aboaf and their wifes. CUS - A young and handsome Marlon Brando. MS - King Filipo and the actors socializing and shaking hands. MOHS - King Filipo and George Englund walking

The Derby: Outsider Takes Classic Race
Clip: 425203_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-028-04
HD: N/A
Location: Great Britian, England
Timecode: 00:23:19 - 00:25:47

The Grand National. That supreme event in steeple-chasing. The Grand National, see 47 horses go to the post in this Aintree classic. Gregory Peck has a horse entered, but he has better luck in the movies as "Out And About" leads most of the way over the 30 jumps and four-and-a-half mile turf course. At the finish however, it's AYAlLA who comes out of nowhere to capture one of the most thrilling of all Grand Nationals. Overhead shot of the people standing at the railings watching the horses being paraded around by their handlers. CUS - Gregory Peck, wearing glasses and really watching the horse he has entered in the Grand National. MSOH - 47-horses take off down the track. MCUS - Man looking through binoculars. MSOH - The horses take their first jump. There's one rider down laying on the ground. MS - Another hedge to jump. There are a couple of horses in this race that have no jockeys on them. MSOH - Its the last 500 feet on the track and the horses are running neck to neck. Finely one horse captures the race and it is Ayaioa who comes out of no where and wins the race. MLS - Horse racing fans.

New Cuban Raids: Kennedy Says Attacks Don't Advance Cause
Clip: 425204_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-029-01
HD: N/A
Location: Bahamas
Timecode: 00:26:00 - 00:27:37

Seventeen men aboard a small twin-engine boat are picked up by British authorities in the Bahamas as they prepare to attack Cuban shipping. President Kennedy calls these raids ill-advised and feel that the raiders would do more good by joining the United States armed forces as have some of their fellow patriots. Cabin cruiser docked next to a pier, a Bahamian law officer is posted next to the cruiser. CUS - Gerry Buchanan MCUS - Men being released from a Bahamian jail. MCUS - President Kennedy steps up to a podium to address the raids. President John Kennedy: "I think when these issues of war and peace hang in the balance that the United States Government and authorities should and when American territories are being used, they should have a possession of some position of some control on the matter. We don't think they're effective, we don't think they weaken Castro, we don't think, rather hastily organized, to raid, which maybe shoots up a merchant ship, kills some crewmen comes back holds a press conference, doesn t seem to us that represents a serious blow to Castro and in fact it may assist him in maintaining his control. We distinguish between those actions in which we feel advances the cause of freedom and these hit and run raids which we do not feel advance the cause of freedom and were attempting to discourage those."

Mr. Churchill Sir Winston Now Honorary US Citizen
Clip: 425205_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-029-02
HD: N/A
Location: Washington D.C., USA
Timecode: 00:27:37 - 00:29:35

As Lady Churchill celebrates her 78th Birthday, it is announced that Congress has made Sir Winston Churchill an honorary United States Citizen, the only man apart from Lafayette to be so honored. His leadership during World War II contributed greatly to the accolade.

Tragedy In Bali. Thousands die as volcano erupts.
Clip: 425206_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-029-03
HD: N/A
Location: Bali, Indonensia
Timecode: 00:29:36 - 00:30:18

Thousands die as volcano erupts. Nearly two thousand Balinese die as Gunung Agung erupts and showers the island with huge rocks and molten lava . The natives believe it was an act of their angry Gods and pray for mercy in a ruined temple. The Indonesian government may evacuate the island completely. Gunung Agung erupting spewing smoke and ashes. MLS - A scenic shot of the side of the mountain / volcano oozing out hot lava flowing down the side and destroying everything in its path. MS - People going into the temple on the mountain side, hundreds of worshipers were killed at this site. MCUS - Buddhist Priest sitting and praying. Camera scanning - The devastation and aftermath of smoldering grasses and trees.

Typhoid Epidemic Sweeps Swiss Resort
Clip: 425207_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-029-04
HD: N/A
Location: Zermatt, Switzerland
Timecode: 00:30:18 - 00:31:04

The town of Zermatt at the foot of the Matterhorn is a ghost town after an epidemic of typhoid fever sweep the village. More than 450 persons are hospitalized but few deaths are reported. Zematt, Switzerland a building and a shot of the Matterhorn in the background. MOSS - A ski lodge void of people. CUS - Skull and cross bones drawn on a piece of paper "non entrare" written below the skull. MCUS - Health officials clearing out a room and emptying a container of a chemical inside a barrel, and it starts to smoke. MS - Mattresses and bedding put outside on a balcony.

Spring Magic: Cherry Blossoms Blaze In Capital
Clip: 425208_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-029-05
HD: N/A
Location: Washington D.C., USA
Timecode: 00:31:04 - 00:31:59

When the Cherry Trees blossom in Washington can the tourists be far behind? They are out in full flower and the national capital is framed in a bower of beauty. You can just imagine the beauty of the rows of Cherry Blossom Trees. A small crowd of people taking in the beauty of the trees. MS - Beauty Queens being escorted by members of the military in dress uniform. MS - Couple sitting on a park bench overlooking the water with branches of cherry blossoms hanging in the picture. MS - Female artist drawing in a sketch pad with a triad of other ladies looking over her shoulder. CUS - Cherry Blossom branches loader with flowers. MCUS - Cameraman looks over the artist shoulder and of the picture she's sketching. MS - Cameraman takes this picture between the branches of a flowering cherry blossom tree with the Capitol building in the background and water.

August 1, 1994 - Part 3
Clip: 460133_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10058
Original Film: 102866
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(13:40:32) Ms. KuLKA. That's correct. The CHAIRMAN. Was recusal, which was on the briefing sheet, discussed during this 4 to 6 hours with Mr. Altman? MS. KULKA. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. To what length? I'm asking you to give me an estimate. You obviously don't have a stopwatch. Ms. KULKA. We probably may have spent 15 or 20 percent of the time that we discussed bow we would respond to all requests on Madison on the recusal issue. The CHAIRMAN. Wouldn't it then have been-you did some of this briefing, I think, even the day before the hearing. Am I correct in that? Ms. KULKA. I think-1 can't recall. It was Monday or Tuesday night, whether it was Wednesday night I can't remember The CHAIRMAN. The point is, it came very shortly before the hearing. Ms. KULKA. That's correct. The CHAIRMAN. And part of the question we have to ask ourselves is would it have been reasonable for Mr. Altman to have remembered the subject of recusal, which bad been the focus of, you percent of the briefing time? You discussed it a short time hand. It was on the briefing document that he bad., We have ether or not it was reasonable that, in the scope of the operations he was asked, he would have mentioned that issue. As I be did not, ' Ms. KULKA. Senator, I don't want to mislead you. We did not spend 15 or 20 percent of the time discussing his recusal issue with the White House. That was in passing. He put it down on his pro posed answer. The time we spent discussing recusal dealt with recusing whether a Senator asked a direct question about why he wasn't recusing himself or what he expected to do, and how he would talk 60 about his understanding of the way in which he would proceed, how he had instructed us in handling the matter, and so forth. The CHAIRMAN. I appreciate the point you're making and we' have a chance to hear from him on that question. Senator Sarbanes. is asking for- Senator SARBANES. Could I just got a clarification? Was the briefing of Altman And your work preparing for the briefing concern the whole activities of the RTC? Ms. KuLKA. That's correct. Senator SARBANES. What portion of the briefing related to Madi-son and Whitewater would you say? Ms. KULKA. Maybe 35, 40 percent, Senator SARBANES. OF, Thank you, The CHAIRMAN. You know, I think that begs another question. Was the recusal issue, that you said took 20 percent of the briefing time, on some issue other than Madison and Whitewater, or was it just on that issue? KULKA. It was on that issue, sir. It would have been maybe 15 to 20 percent of the time we spent on Madison, which would have made it a smaller amount of time in the briefings. I just- The CHAIRMAN. Senator D'Amato. Senator DAMATO, Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I'm not going to' take all my time. I'm going to yield my time to Senator Mack. Regarding the preparation for that meeting, that Chairman Riegle spoke about, on February 24, 1994, wasn't there a preparation of Q's and As regarding contacts between Treasury and the White House? Ms. KuLKA. There were questions posed, sir, yes. Senator D'AMATO. Was it a Q and A? Ms. KULKA. Yes. Senator D'AMATo. About the contacts between Treasury and the' White House? Ms. KULKA. That's correct. Senator DAMATO. And that was about Madison and the contacts between Treasury and the White House re: Madison, it wasn't about anything else. Right? Ms. KuLKA. I don't have it in front of me, sir, but my recollection was that it was about Mr. Altman's contacts. Senator D'AMATO. With the White House? Ms. KULKA. That's correct. Senator D'AMATO. As it related to Madison? Ms. KULKA. That's correct. Senator D'AMAT0. Didn't the answers specifically make reference to the recusal discussion on February 2, 1994? Ms. KuLKA. That is my recollection. Senator D'AMAT0. So recusal answers were actually prepared as it related to the Madison matter whether or not he was going to recuse himself. Is that correct? Ms. KULKA. And his discussions with the White House as it related to that. There were two different sets of Q's and As that would have dealt with it. One would have been in the context of what his discussion with the White House bad covered and the other would have been directly on the issue of recusal, 61 Senator D'AMATO. To. Before the February 2, 1994, White House meeting, did anyone ask you for authorization or advice on what to say at that meeting? Ms. KULKA. I'm sorry? Senator D'AMATo. In other words, there was a meeting on February 2, 1994, where Mr. Altman met with Bernie Nussbaum, Maggie Williams, and others on the White House staff. Were you consulted about that meeting and were you asked any advice as to what they should or shouldn't say? Ms. KuLKA. I was unaware of that meeting until the Q and A session several weeks later. Senator D'AMATO. That's substantially what we know of it, Would you have approved a briefing of the White House or any other private party that disclosed the progress of the Madison/ Whitewater inquiry? ' ? Ms. KuLKA. I don't know what you mean by "progress," sir. Senator DAMATO. Status of the case,

"500" Qualifying Trials
Clip: 426637_1_1
Year Shot: 1965 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1735
Original Film: 038-040-02
HD: N/A
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Timecode: 00:44:32 - 00:46:02

Tens of thousands are on hand to see the field qualify for the Indianapolis Five Hundred. MCA - Closed Circuit Television is bringing the classic to theatres and arenas all across the nation...giving everyone a chance to see qualifiers like Parnelli Jones, Jim Clark, Mario Andretti and A.J. Foyt. "A.J." qualified easily establishing a new track record for the trials. Aerial shot - Indianapolis Speedway Race Track. Throngs in the racing stands. VIPs standing on the track before the racing begins. Indianapolis 500 racing balloons released. Man taking a picture with a 35mm camera. NO #2 racing car. Roger Ward. CU - NO #82 race car. Jim Cox. Jim Cox seated in the car wearing a helmet. MCA close circuit TV camera and camera man. Mario Andretti sitting in NO #12. Mario Andretti sitting in his race car with his helmet on. MS - Backsides of the mews media. NO #1 The great AJ Foyt is driving this race car and his top speed at the try-outs was 161 mph. Aerial - Looking down at the thousands of cars parked in the lot and little dots that are filling up the stands, those little dots are people. Indi 500' Racing Trophy with the heads and names of the winners who have won past races.

Dalai Lama
Clip: 425352_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-079-05
HD: N/A
Location: India
Timecode: -

The Dalai Lama received permission from Indian Premier Mrs. Indira Gandhi for a cultural mission to Japan, his first voyage out of host country, India, since he escaped the Red Chinese. Dalai (Bstan-'dzin-rgya-mtsho, 14th Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso) and Gandhi sit in a room talking. Dalai sits in a car. He waves to onlookers. Dignitaries escort him to a waiting plane.

Fashions
Clip: 425353_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-079-06
HD: N/A
Location: Scandinavia
Timecode: -

Scandinavian fashions preview spring and summer '68. Included: maillot lounging outfits, mother-daughter trench coats, and bikinis and cutout-maillots for the beach. Normal runway footage. Models show off various cloths. Onlookers watch from tables. Event held in a theater.

Vietnam
Clip: 425354_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-079-07
HD: N/A
Location: Vietnam - open dirt field
Timecode: -

U.S. Marines at Conthien undergo a month-long artillery and mortar pounding from North Vietnam gun emplacements across the buffer zone. Heavy causalities are reported on both sides. Air strikes hit railroad bridges and sidings deep in North Vietnam. Marines dig trenches and then eat lunch. A bomb explodes and causes a soldier to grab his hard hat and take cover. Other soldiers scramble for cover. Cool shot of a soldier lying face first in a dirt trench. Three shots of wounded soldiers being carried off on cots. Soldiers fire artillery rounds. Aerial footage of bombs being drooped on a bridge. The shock wave of various bombs can be seen spreading out from their epicenter.

LBJ's Speech
Clip: 425355_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-080-01
HD: N/A
Location: convention center
Timecode: -

President Johnson addresses the National Legislative Conference in San Antonio and repeats his previous offers toward a negotiated peace in Vietnam. He says the bombing would halt if it led to "productive" peace talks. The President is shown speaking from a podium. A quick cut away shows the guests at this black tie dinner fundraiser.

August 1, 1994 - Part 3
Clip: 460134_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10058
Original Film: 102866
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(13:45:45) Ms. KuLKA. I don't know that anyone-I really don't even know if Mr. Altman knew the status of the case.Senator DAmATo. I'm not asking that. I said would you have approved it? I'm not asking you to get ahead or to try to anticipate what went on at that meeting. I said would you have approved a briefing to the White House or to any private party that disclosed the progress of a case under inquiry? Ms. KuLKA. I don't know what you mean by progress, sir. I don't mean to be argumentative, but our Q's and A's, I think, to some degree, were prepared to discuss some of the procedural aspects, if we were asked that by the Committee. If that is what you mean as progress, I think we would have been prepared to talk about the date that had been originally set for the expiration of the statute and tolling and so on. Senator D'AMATO. Didn't you prepare and send to the staff a memo of February 4, 1994, in which you instructed the RTC officials what areas they should not discuss? Ms. KULKA. That's correct. I did prepare one, and talked about what they were limited to discussing. Senator D'AmATo. Isn't it a fact that that February 4, 1994, memo does not authorize any discussions with non-RTC officials about the likelihood of requiring a tolling agreement from private Parties in the Madison case? Ms. KuLKA. It speaks for itself, sir, and I don't remember the words precisely. Senator D'AMATO. That's a fact. Isn't it a fact that your February 4, 1994, memo does not authorize any discussions with non-RTC of ficials about which particular RTC personnel were supervising the Madison investigation? Ms. KuLKA, I'm sorry, sir, but if 0 you's like to give it to me, I'll reread it. otherwise, you have it in front of ~ you, 'Senator Sarbanes. Mr. Chairman, if we re going to do this-is this Ms. Kulka's memo? ' Senator D'AMATO. Yes. February 4, 1994, and we have it, The CHAIRMAN. If you're asking to have it in front of you, I think You ought to be able to have it in front of you. Ms. KuLKA. I'm sorry to say I can't even read that. 62 Senator D'AMATO. Let's send one down--let's read them out loud, These are talking points for anyone authorized to discuss the Madi. son situation, additional information should not be supplied unless it has been properly approved. This is standard procedure and anyone authorized to speak should be aware that the discussion of any additional information could have an impact on the agency's legal position and any matters arising out of Madison. It's too bad that maybe they didn't have this before because, obviously, matters that are now rather contentious and the question of what they did speak about at that February 2, 1994, meeting could have been avoided. You have a list of eight different points., Does that refresh your recollection? Ms. KULKA. Yes, I have it in front of me now, sir. Senator D'AMATO. Isn't it a fact that the February 4, 1994, memo does not authorize any discussions with non-RTC officials about which particular RTC personnel were supervising the Madison investigation? Ms. KULKA. Unless it had been properly approved, sir. Senator D'AMATO. Correct. I yield the balance of my time to Senator Mack. Senator MACK. I thank my friend. How much time do you have left? Senator D'AMATO. I don't know. Three or 4 minutes. You can take it. Senator MACK, Mr. Roelle, you had testified that Mr. Stephen Katsanos informed you of a press inquiry regarding matters relating to Madison in October 1993, which is to say not September 1993, and didn't you then relay that information to Mr. Altman? Mr. RoELLE, Yes, sir. Senator MACK. Do you have any disagreement with the way I've laid out those dates? Mr. RoELLE. I don't recall exactly when I got the information from Mr. Katsanos. It was the E-mail that I referred to earlier in testimony today. I think be had forwarded a copy of it to me. Senator MACK. I think that was October 6, 1993, but I'm not positive. Mr. RoELLE. I had a subsequent normally scheduled meeting with the Treasury at Treasury. I related the fact that one of our Investigators had been questioned by a reporter regarding the criminal referrals. Senator MACK. What was Mr. Altman's response to that? Mr. ROELLE. He took it rather well. He didn't get upset and he didn't express any indignation. He just said thank you. Senator MACK. Was there any conversation with Ms. Hanson? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, he called Ms. Hanson on the phone and told her what I was telling you.

Play Ball President Kennedy opens the season as the the Baltimore Orioles take the Washington Senators
Clip: 425212_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-030-03
HD: N/A
Location: Washington D.C., USA
Timecode: 00:37:05 - 00:38:03

As the old familiar cry rings throughout the land, President Kennedy opens the season in the old familiar way. He throws out the first ball and settles back to see the Baltimore Orioles take the Washington Senators. Don Rudolph pitches a ball to Jim Gentile - well, it's enough to "kill a mockingbird"- it hits the scoreboard for a homer. Boog Powell comes through with another for the Birds and Baltimore tops the Senators - 3 to 1. A packed baseball field with throngs of fans waiting to watch the Baltimore Orioles take on the Washington Senators. MS - President Kennedy surrounded by politicians and secret service throws out the baseball and the catcher Ken Ritzier catches the ball for his great-grandchildren. MCUS - Ken smiling and holding the ball up for the camera. MLS - Don Rudolph pitches the ball the batter connects the ball and scores a home-run. This puts Baltimore Orioles ahead of the game.

Sub Disaster : Nation Mourns 129 Lost In Test
Clip: 425213_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-031-01
HD: N/A
Location: Atlantic Ocean
Timecode: 00:38:16 - 00:41:21

"I conclude with great regret and sadness that the submarine Thresher is lost" with those words Admiral George Anderson, chief of naval operations mounted an epitaph for 129 men aboard the nuclear craft. After an overhaul the Thresher, fastest and deepest diving of all submarines, was on a test dive in 8,400 feet of water, 200 miles east of Boston, accompanied by the tender Skylark. Presumably the Thresher rests on the ocean's bottom. Her fate recalls a happier one, that of the Squalus in 1939. With a diving bell the Navy was able to rescue 33 men who were still alive. In the ship yard the submarine Thresher is dry docked. (SS 593 Thresher) CUS - The submarine being lowered into the water. MS - The submarine is in the water and takes a bounce backwards. MS - Thresher tied up to the dock. MLS - The naval crew standing on the dock in Naval dress uniform next to the Thresher. MS - You see the top of the Thresher in the ocean out at sea. Aerial shot - The Thresher almost covered by water she is diving and all you see is the wake that she leaves behind.

"Oscar" Awards
Clip: 425214_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-031-02
HD: N/A
Location: Hollywood, California
Timecode: 00:41:21 - 00:44:19

"Oscar" Awards: Gregory Peck is Best Actor. The most glamorous night in glamorous Hollywood draws a glittering crown - the 35th annual Academy Awards. There's an air of electrified anticipation among the stars, including Angie Dickinson, Gregory Peck's new leading lady in "Captain Newman, M.D." the awards go to Ed Begley, Patty Duke, Anne Bancroft and Gregory Peck, with the crowd giving an ovation to Mr. Peck, an extremely popular figure in movie circles who had been nominated before only to lose out. His performance in "To Kill A Mockingbird" however, shoots him to the top of the "Oscar" heap. The picture in which he starred also won two other awards. Sophia Loren presented the award to Peck. 35th Annual Academy Awards and a crowd has gathered outside the theater. CUS - Theaters marquee. BS - All the stars and starlets seated in their seats. CUS - A very young Angie Dickinson. MLS - Ann Bancroft at the podium. MLS - Betty Davis. MLS - Gregory Peck and Sophia Loren.

August 1, 1994 - Part 3
Clip: 460135_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10058
Original Film: 102866
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(13:50:32) Senator MACK. Mr. Roelle has indicated to us that on two different occasions Roger Altman directed Ms. Hanson with respect to the Madison matters. One, was either on September 24 or 27, 1993 ' you're not positive about the date, but I believe it was September 27, 1993, and the other was on October 6, 1993, when you informed Mr. Altman of the press information. And at that time, he directed Ms. Hanson to inform "Jack, Bernie, and the Secretary," I believe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 63 The CHAMMAN. Senator Dodd. Senator DODD. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't think I'll need all of the time. Let me thank all four of you for being here. As I said the other day, one probably didn't assume that a year or so ago, you'd be as . iced to recall every conversation, thought, or hypothetical ques-tion in front of a Senate panel. It has been a panel for this purpose, so I want to thank you personally. All of you, have distinguished records and long service, and that should be noted as part of the record. I also want to associate myself with the questions raised by Senator Bryan and the concerns raised about the management issue of asking by statute to fill vacancies with only confirmable people. At that particular time in this Administration, it limited the decision to the Secretary of the Treasury and Mr. Altman, thus placing ourselves in a situation that invites the kind of problems and troubles that the OGE's office has identified, I'm hopeful we'll address that issue, but it's important to note that all of you seem to express the notion that Mr. Altman, as well, was concerned about this and trying to do the best job he could. I think it's important for the record to reflect that. I asked some very pointed questions, at the outset, in my line of questioning this morning, to get to the important questions for you, not hypothetical questions about what you would do if you were private attorneys or, in retrospect, what someone should or shouldn't do under political circumstances, and so forth. The issue for all four of you, but principally Mr. Ryan In and Ms. Kulka, is of what, if anything, happened as a result this information being shared? People have used the words "insider information" suggesting, in effect, that that information bad some impact or effect on the progress of the particular cases. There's a legitimate set of questions that will come to those witnesses about what information was shared and with whom, and we ought to look at that. The second set of questions, in my view, addresses the issue of what, then, was done with that information, and to what extent that information, then, affected or is affecting the progress of the particular case', the Madison case. ~ It seems to me you're in a unique position to answer the latter question, and your opinions regarding the first are certainly worthwhile, but only the witnesses who were involved directly in those conversations are going to shed the kind of light that this Committee needs to have. I want to focus this question, again coming back to the point, what were the implications, what actions either were suggested by the White House or the Treasury Department and what, if anything, did the RTC do with that information, if, in fact, it was shared or given to you? It was pointed out by you, Mr. Roelle, that the reason you keep referrals private is for two reasons. One is to protect the innocent. Their reputations can be ruined if that information gets out. The other reason is to not destroy a case to protect a case in effect. I would ask you whether or not that is true, if that is exactly why the rationale for keeping the referrals private is important? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir. 64 Senator DODD. Are you, or any of you here, aware of any evi-dence that the disclosures in this case either by the press or oth-ers, in any way altered the course of the referrals or enabled any-one to gain an unfair advantage? Mr. ROELLE. I am not, sir. Senator DODD. No advantage whatsoever? Mr. ROELLE. I am not aware of it. Senator DODD. Ms. Kulka? Ms. KuLKA. I am not. I have great concern about parts of our investigation- that keep getting released inappropriately and the effect that has on our ability

Navy Fledglings Let Fly
Clip: 425217_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-032-03
HD: N/A
Location: Annapolis, Maryland
Timecode: 00:49:25 - 00:50:26

They launch a fleet of new light battle cruisers at the Naval Academy. They weigh 30 pounds and up (but not much) and like all Navy armament and personnel they are scrappers. Of course, these are the young boxers who stage a show each year at the Academy. The fists fly, but they play it cool, it winds up in an ice-cream feast. Little boys standing and jumping up and down in a boxing ring. MCUS - Two little boys around five years old come out boxing. CUS - Two more little guys go at it with the boxing gloves on. CUS - A little boxer eating some ice cream.

Nato Nations Meet: Defense Alliance Opens Discussions
Clip: 425218_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1723
Original Film: 037-039-01
HD: N/A
Location: The Hague, Netherlands
Timecode: 00:36:55 - 00:38:30

NATO Nations Meet In Holland. The 15 nations of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization hear Secretary of State Dean Rusk call for closer relationships on mutual problems. They then tackle the problem on Cyprus and DeGaulle's insistence that French troops stay under French command. The Hague, Netherlands A government limousine with US Secretary of State, David Dean Rusk representing the United States arriving at a NATO Alliance meeting held at the International Court of Justice, in the Juliana barracks, located in Hague. MCUS - Dean Rusk getting out of the State driven limousine, an honor guard standing at attention. MS - Delegates to NATO, three, Dean Rusk is at the far left of the picture, as you view it. MS - Members of NATO. Secretary of State, Dean Rusk "We of the United States look upon the North Atlantic Alliance as an expression of an enduring community of interests and of abiding common commitments to great humane traditions. We're prepared to move ahead with our NATO partners, in strengthening the institutions of the North Atlantic Community. We must better develop the process of political consultation, so as a matter of agreed practice, each of us consults his partners in advance on those policy decisions directly affecting the interest of NATO as a whole." General shots of the conference.

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