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August 4, 1994 - Part 8
(18:10:26) Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Lindsey. Mr. LINDSEY. Yes, sir. Senator FAIRCLOTH. 1 believe you said earlier that you are originally from Arkansas; is that right? Mr. LINDSEY. Yes, sir, I am. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Before coming to Arkansas, how long had you lived there? I mean, before coming to Washington, excuse me, how long had you lived in Arkansas? Mr, LINDSEY. I was born and raised in Arkansas. I went to undergraduate school in Memphis. I then came to Washington as a Legislative Assistant to Senator Fulbright and to attend law school. I went back to Arkansas in 1975. Senator FAIRCLOTH. How many years were you in Arkansas? Mr. LINDSEY. Well, I mean, I've lived in Washington and Arkansas. I lived in Arkansas from 1975 until 1979 when I moved back to Washing-ton. I moved back to Arkansas in 1981 and lived there until 1993 when I joined the Clinton Administration. Senator FAIRCLOTH, How long have you known Bill Clinton? Mr. LINDSEY. I met him in 1968. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Lindsey, The Washington Post describes your role in the Clinton Administration in the following terms, and I quote, "Lindsey is like the plumber who fixes the faucet when the family is at work and slips the key back through the mail slot. No one saw him, but the problem is gone." Now, I certainly believe Senator KERRY. Where can I find that kind of plumber? Senator FAIRCLOTH. I believe that was intended and certainly is a favorable description of your effectiveness in the Administration. You would agree with that I hope? Mr. LINDSEY. I'm not sure I understood what it meant when I read it. 396 Senator FAIRCLOTH. Do you at times handle press inquiries relat-ing to matters in Arkansas involving President Clinton? Mr. LINDSEY. Yes, sir. Senator FAIRCLOTH. When was the first time you heard of the RTC investigation into Madison Guaranty? Mr. LINDSEY. Well, I guess the first time was in 1979 [19891 when they brought lawsuit against Jim McDougal. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Who brought the lawsuit against Mr. McDougal? Mr. LINDSEY. The Justice Department did. Senator FAIRCLOTH. You've been familiar with it from day 1 pretty much? Mr. LINDSEY, Again, being from Arkansas, I was aware that Jim McDougal was tried and acquitted. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Lindsey, are you aware of any communication between anyone at the White House and anyone at the Justice Department regarding press inquiries relating to the Resolution Trust Corporation criminal referral? Senator DODD. Mr. Chairman, I just-on a scope, is this The CHAIRMAN. I'm waiting for Senator FAIRCLOTH. This is before the September 29th "headsup" meeting. The CHAIRMAN. I was waiting for Senator Faircloth to finish his question here. Senator FAIRCLOTH. That would be The CHAIRMAN. I think the problem we have with that as well is when we get into the issue of Justice Department activity that's still under inquiry by Mr. Fiske, that is sort of screened off from us at this point, that that would fall into that prohibited area. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Chairman, this was a press inquiry. I didn't ask about-regarding press inquiries relating to the RTC criminal referral before September 29th. This is not White House. This is press. The CHAIRMAN. But did I understand you to say it was a contact of the Justice Department? Senator FAIRCLOTH. I'll read it again. The CHAIRMAN. Excuse me, I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just trying to understand. Senator FAIRCLOTH. That's right. Are you aware of any communication between anyone at the White House and anyone at the Justice Department regarding press inquiries relating to the RTC criminal referral before the September 29th "heads- up" meeting? The CHAIRMAN. Here, if I may say, the problem is not the subject of a press inquiry which would appear to be innocuous. It's the issue of a contact to the Justice Department and that area is still under active review by the Special Prosecutor and that's why question in that area Senator DODD. Independent Counsel. The CHAIRMAN. I meant to say Independent Counsel. That's why that area for the time being is fenced off. We'll get into that at a later time, but we can't at this time. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Chairman, I'll make a trade with you, I'll withdraw the question if you'll give me my time back. 397 The CHAIRMAN. Yes, I will. Senator DODD. Don't use that as a tactic all the time. [Laughter.] Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Lindsey, I believe up until January or so you headed the White House Office of Personnel; is that correct? Mr, LINDSEY. Until November 1993, 1 was Director of the Office of Presidential Personnel. Senator FAIRCLOTH. The Washington Post reported that you helped the President pick, and I quote, "legal talent," Mr. LINDSEY. I still deal with judges, U.S. Attorneys, and Marshals.
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August 4, 1994 - Part 8
(18:15:04) Senator FAIRCLOTH. As you may be aware, Roger Altman testified before us Tuesday and one of the items discussed was his diary, as he has called it, or a scrapbook of historical significance. After a meeting with Maggie Williams, Hillary Clinton's Chief of Staff, on January 11th, Mr. Altman wrote that he had gotten the impression the White House was actively trying to negotiate officials at the Justice Department the scope and jurisdiction of what a Special Counsel could look into. This, of course, was prior to the appointment of the Special Counsel. The point being that after months of opposing the appointment of a Special Counsel, the Clintons were finally about to succumb to the growing political pressure and to ask the Attorney General to appoint a Special Counsel, but not until they first tried to limit what he could look into. Mr. Fiske, did you-Mr. Lindsey rather., did you talk with Robert Fiske prior to his appointment as Special Counsel? Mr. LINDSEY. No, sir. Senator FAIRCLOTH, Did you talk with Bernard Nussbaum about Mr. Fiske before his appointment as Special Counsel? Mr. LINDSEY. I don't believe so. I think I had heard that Mr. Fiske's name had been mentioned as a possible candidate, but I don't believe Senator FAIRCLOTH. This is an important question: Did you talk with Bernard Nussbaum about Robert Fiske prior to his appointment as Special Counsel? Mr. LINDSEY. Again, I think I had heard that Mr. Fiske's name was one of the names being mentioned, Bernie and I may have talked about that, but we didn't talk in any detail about it, it was simply a discussion about the newspaper accounts. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Did you talk with anyone at the Justice Department concerning jurisdiction or scope of the Special Counsel? Mr. LINDSEY. No, sir, I did not and I do not know of anyone in the White House who did. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Thank you. And thank you, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Sarbanes, do I understand (18:17:02)(tape #10093 ends)
August 4, 1994 - Part 9
(18:13:13)(tape #10094 begins) that is sort of screened off from us at this point, that that would fall into that prohibited area. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Chairman, this was a press inquiry. I didn't ask about-regarding press inquiries relating to the RTC criminal referral before September 29th. This is not White House. This is press. The CHAIRMAN. But did I understand you to say it was a contact of the Justice Department? Senator FAIRCLOTH. I'll read it again. The CHAIRMAN. Excuse me, I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just trying to understand. Senator FAIRCLOTH. That's right. Are you aware of any communication between anyone at the White House and anyone at the Justice Department regarding press inquiries relating to the RTC criminal referral before the September 29th "heads- up" meeting? The CHAIRMAN. Here, if I may say, the problem is not the subject of a press inquiry which would appear to be innocuous. It's the issue of a contact to the Justice Department and that area is still under active review by the Special Prosecutor and that's why question in that area Senator DODD. Independent Counsel. The CHAIRMAN. I meant to say Independent Counsel. That's why that area for the time being is fenced off. We'll get into that at a later time, but we can't at this time. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Chairman, I'll make a trade with you, I'll withdraw the question if you'll give me my time back. 397 The CHAIRMAN. Yes, I will. Senator DODD. Don't use that as a tactic all the time. [Laughter.] Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Lindsey, I believe up until January or so you headed the White House Office of Personnel; is that correct? Mr, LINDSEY. Until November 1993, 1 was Director of the Office of Presidential Personnel. Senator FAIRCLOTH. The Washington Post reported that you helped the President pick, and I quote, "legal talent," Mr. LINDSEY. I still deal with judges, U.S. Attorneys, and Marshals.
Cheering crowd
crowd cheering at night
Golden ground squirrel
Golden ground squirrel
Squirrel or Chipmunk looking out from inside...
Squirrel or Chipmunk looking out from inside tree watching rain and smoke
Zoom into individual squirrels
Zoom into individual squirrels
Chipmunk in snow
Chipmunk in snow
Flying squirrel
Flying squirrel
Misc small animals
Misc small animals
Golden ground squirrel
Golden ground squirrel
Squirrel eating nuts on hand
Squirrel eating nuts on hand
Marmot or ground squirrel
Marmot or ground squirrel
Ground squirrel - baby bird
Ground squirrel - baby bird
Baby squirrel in tree
Baby squirrel in tree
Animals in forest fire
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Chickadee (Red Squirrel)
Chickadee (Red Squirrel)
2 Squirrels
2 Squirrels
Squirrel
Squirrel
Squirrel on tree
Squirrel on tree
Playing with squirrel
Playing with squirrel
Cony - ground squirrel
Cony - ground squirrel
Grey squirrel (up tree, inside tree, eating)
Grey squirrel (up tree, inside tree, eating)