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August 2, 1994 - Part 6
(00:35:15) Mr. ALTMAN. No. Senator D'AMAT0. Or anyone else from the White House? Mr. ALTMAN. No. Senator D'AMATO. Mr. Ickes? b4r. ALTMAN. I had no-I received no subsequent request for meetings. 424 Senator D'AMATO. What about private counsel? Did private counsel-I find it hard to believe that there was no private counsel. Are you saying to me that there was level? not even private counsel meeting with staff lawyers at some level? Mr. ALTMAN. Not to my knowledge, Senator. [Videotape ended.] The CHAIRMAN. Let me just indicate there now needs to be a tape change. There will be two more segments to review here and then we'll be finished with this viewing. Senator GRAMM. Mr. Chairman, while they're doing that The CHAIRMAN. Go ahead with the tape, please. [Videotape started.] Senator BOND. Next, when did you become aware of the RTC recommendations that further criminal prosecution be taken against Madison? Mr. ALTMAN. Last fall. I was advised that the question of a referral to the Justice Department was under consideration at the RTC. And as other members of the RTC staff will attest, I said that normal procedures with no deviation whatsoever should be pursued, including chain of command procedures, in terms of reaching that con. clusion. I might tell you that typically decisions like that are made at the Regional Office level and it was in this case. Senator BOND. Were you aware that the Regional Office had asked the National Office to make a determination as to whether the Clintons' name should be in the new expanded referral? Mr. ALTMAN. No. Senator BOND. You did not know they were asking for the National Office to make a determination? Mr, ALTMAN. No. I was simply informed that this issue was on the table, and my reaction was-and I had only one conversation about it-that normal procedure should be followed. That's the way we're going to handle this thing to the very end. Senator BOND. How was the White House notified of the referral, was it from the RTC? Mr. ALTMAN. They were not notified by the RTC, to the best of my knowledge. Senator BOND. Nobody in your agency, to your knowledge, advised White House staff that this was going to 'be a major-this could be a major source of concern? Mr. ALTMAN. Not to my knowledge. Senator BOND. Ms. Ford, do you know if the White House was notified by the RTC? Ms, FORD. No. We have had no involvement at the Oversight Board whatsoever. [Videotape ended.] Senator BOXER. Mr. Chairman, could you go back to the point when she shook her bead no. The CHAIRMAN. I don't mind doing that. I think we ought to see the fourth piece here and then we can go back and do that. There may be other requests, too. Senator BOXER. Fair enough. The CHAIRMAN. No, technically the way we were able to get this material-it's got to go back, you'll see the final section. [Videotape started.] Senator DOMENICI. You and you counsel went up to talk to the White House Counsel. Mr. ALTMAN. It wasn't a substantive meeting. Senator DOMENICI. Please Mr. ALTMAN. One substantive or meaningful contact. Senator DOMENICI. I assume we're not arguing there that you had-you're not suggesting that you had more than one, are you? Mr. ALTMAN. No, I'm just saying if you run into someone in the hall-did you see that thing in the paper this morning? I ' m not including that. Senator DOMENICI. You said you were there to give a "heads up." What I under stand the situation to be for average folks, like a couple of them in my State that were bordering up on the statute of limitations becoming a defense, they were presented with a tolling agreement and if they didn't sign it a suit was filed. So as to toll the statute, limitations. Is that a rather fair assessment of the way business is done? Mr. ALTMAN. I think I'd have to know the details of the matter, Senator. 425 Senator DOMENICI. I guess what I'm wondering is, are we getting the right perspective of why you did this? Did you go there because you, wanted them to know that, clearly, they might be asked to sign a tolling agreement? Or, to know that the normal process was that the statute is going to toll and that there is reasonable grounds to suspect something, they might expect a lawsuit? Why else would you give them "heads up'?
Implosion of Westbrook Hotel
Various shot of the implosion of the Westbrook Hotel in Fort Worth, followed by city workers working on cutting the building's undergound utilities while police watch on.
Carnival
TLS crowd in fall/winter jackets walking toward cam. MS strange silver hub with numerous colored light bulbs flashing. TLS people walking along fairway. TLS/MSs people riding spinning teacups amusement ride. TLS Zyklon roller coaster ride & sign. Great panning TLS circular roller coaster-like amusement park ride. MS two Caucasian teenage girls, young man and mother standing with stuffed animals, prizes won at game booths. Nice MS white boy on fairway, turning to camera with carmel apple (caramel apple) in his mouth; he takes it out, waves to cam, mouthing the omnipresent, "Hi, Mom!"
87,000 Oil Wells Shut Down
Thousands of wells and workers are affected as an order is signed shutting all wells down until prices for 'crude' are raised. A battle that may mean a serious nation wide shortage. Exterior domed Texas State Capitol Building. Newspaper men working at desk. Austin street and aerial view. Sign "Closed No Oil To Sell". Oil pumps. Sign "Labor will be paid during shutdown".
'Mystery' Bomber Takes Off
The new bombing plane, built for France by the Douglas Company, takes off for spectacular speed trials at mines field. Experts agree that it's probably the fastest war plane in the air today. Plane in flight.
Cobb Does 352 M.p.h. In Run
Thrilling scenes as John Cobb, noted British racing driver, pilots his amazing 'Turtle' racer across the salt flats at sensational speeds, nearly equaling the world's mark of Captain Eyston. Crew and driver preparing car. Tracking and POV shot of car racing across flats. Speed being recorded. John Cobb climbing out of car.
King Review Fascist Troops
150,000 Trained soldiers and 10,000 mechanized units, of the 'Army of the Po' which recently 'turned back' a mythical invader, defile before King Victor Emmanuel and the Crown Prince in a spectacular review. Parading of troops, trucks, bicycles past the royals.
Admiral Yarnell Quits China
The Retiring Chief of the Asiatic Fleet is given a colorful farewell by French troops and officials as he and Mrs. Yarnell sail for home. He will receive a Congressional Medal for his Heroism in war-torn china waters.
August 2, 1994 - Part 6
(00:40:43) Mr. ALTMAN. The difference between this and a matter like the one you referred to is that I had been receiving-had begun to receive a lot of inquiries, including in writing from Congress, as to what procedures the RTC was going to follow, wanted to give them the same sense of those procedures that I was giving Members of Congress. I said to them nothing different than I've said to Members of Congress. Senator DOMENICI. I understand that, but I guess what I'm getting at is there must have been a reason for telling them that. Congress was just saying "the statute is going to run, what are you going to do." So you went over there to tell them we're going to apply the same thing we do in any other case? That's the "heads up" you were giving them? Mr. ALTMAN. That's right. Senator DOMENICI. Was it serious enough that you wanted them to know because there might be something that they would be confronted with that was untoward as you applied your ruing, like asking for a tolling agreement or filing a lawsuit? Mr. ALTMAN. Again, the essence of what we said was that the statute of limitations which then applied was scheduled to expire on February 28, 1994. The RTC was going to make every effort to make a decision by that date. It could fundamentally reach one only of two decisions: That there was a basis for a claim, or there. was not. If there was a basis for a claim, then we would either seek a tolling agreement to permit more discovery and more preparation, or we would file that claim in court. Senator DOMENICI. Well, the passage of the statute of limitations extension eliminates that problem, as you have already indicated. I guess, Mr. Chairman, I'm having a little difficulty with the explanation. One way of looking at it was that it was not a very meaningful or important meeting; that he was just doing this so that he would be able to tell Congress he had told them he's going to treat them the same way as others. I don't think a man--I know you fairly well, I don't think you would be going over there to just be able to send this letter to Senator DAmato that says I have told the White House that they're going to be treated the same way as other people. Mr. ALTMAN,. Senator, I did not know whether they knew of such procedures which, as I say, I was then communicating to Members of' Congress. It just seemed to me a little odd to explain to a Member of Congress that we're going to following X, Y, Z procedures and not have them ever be made aware of what those were. [Videotape ended.] The CHAIRMAN. That constitutes the four segments that fall into this area. Senator SARBANES. Could we see the first? I think others were interested as well, the first section of that segment, the answer to the Bond question. Senator BOXER. I thought it was the third tape. The CHAIRMAN. I think it's the third segment that was raised before. Is there an objection to doing that, running that segment again? All right, Run the third segment a second time if you would. [Videotape started.] Mr. ALTMAN. A list of the documents. Senator BOND. Is that the latest version? Mr. ALTMAN. This is just a list of what the documents are. There are 6,500 in total. Senator BOND, If you could make one available for the record, we'd like to have that . I appreciate it. Next, when did you become aware of the RTC recommendations that further criminal prosecution betaken against Madison? Mr. ALTMAN. Last fall, I was advised that the question of a referral to the Justice Department was under consideration at the RTC. And as other members of the RTC staff will attest, I said that normal procedures with no deviation whatsoever should be pursued, including chain of command procedures, in terms of reaching that con clusion. I might tell you that typically decisions like that are made at the regional office level and it was in this case. 426 Senator BOND. Were you aware that the regional office had asked the national office to make a determination as to whether the Clintons' name should be in the new expanded referral? Mr. ALTMAN. No. Senator BOND. You did not know that they were asking for the national office to make a determination on that? Mr. ALTMAN. No, I was simply informed that this issue was an the table and my reaction was I had only one conversation about it, that normal procedure should be' followed. That's the way we're going to handle this thing to the very end.
Autumn Scenics
Nice autumnal nature close-ups.: Fall leaves, trees, flowers with bees, foliage, butterfly on leaf, squirrel, falling leaves. Sunny afternoon.
Ft. Worth Water Gardens
Modern, geometric stone garden structures, paths, with water pools and fountains. Fort Worth Water Gardens dedication placque, "Fort Worth Water Gardens A gift of the Amon G. Carter Foundation Amon G Carter Jr., Mrs. Carl V. Deakins, Mrs. J Lee Johnson III, 19 October 1974" Handheld shot of water garden.
Woman Modeling Hats
Pile of hats, cuts to shots of model, with short black hair trying them on.
Wacky Fundraising Gimmick for College Tuition
High School girls wearing bikinis, and mickey mouse ears walk around in front of their school asking men for contributions to send them to college. CU of sign "Send a Mouse to College." Var. shots of men and hgh school girls chatting with each other.
Dolphin Show and "Killer"Whale, Orca
Dolphin show at a Dallas aquarium. Orca jumps, spins and performs other tricks in show. Some cutaways to a very small audience in the bleachers. Whale comes out of the tank and sits on the edge by its trainer. Some good shots of dolphin tricks, stunts. Then a really odd shot through the tank window (underground) where we see a woman in gold lame bikini top and gold pants swim by with a flag and a big smile. The flag reads "Thanks y'all, drinks are at the bar!" Weird but great.
Ronald Reagan Speech
Ronald Reagan speaking at the Shertaon Fort Worth.about weapons for Vietnam. Early 1970's. CU Reagan as he speaks. "What is of concern I think to a great many people, certianly is of concern to me, is the fact that this country had an agreement in the cease fire that brought our men home, that released our prisoners of war in the Vietnam war, uh, we've made agreements in which we've pledged to supply military material - weapons and ammunition - on a one for one replacement basis for whatever was expended in the fight against communist aggression. If the other side, if the communists broke the cease fire. And we have not been doing it. The president has asked for that, the Congress has cut it more than in half, and now threatens to cut it again and some Congressmen have stated that they don't care if those nations fall. Well, I think a great many Americans should care about whether this country stands before the world as having broken its pledged word in a signed agreement, because I don't know what ally would ever trust us again if we do that."
Yul Brynner Interview
Brief interview with actor yul Brynner, no audio until 11:06. Speaks about the American musical, the process, and all the work that goes into them.
Carol Channing Interview
Interview with Carol Channing about the boom in Broadway musicals. No audio until 12:15. "It's a cliche to say that it's falling apart."
August 2, 1994 - Part 6
(00:50:40) Senator SARBANES. Now, Ms. Hanson was very explicit in testifying that she went to Nussbaum-told Nussbaum on the basis of a directive from you. Are you aware of that testimony? Mr. ALTMAN. I am, sir, and I just disagree with her recollection. Senator SARBANES. And you responded to Senator Riegle earlier, as I understand it, not that you couldn't recollect-in other words, we don't have a situation in which Ms. Hanson says this is what happened and you're )re saying, well, I don't remember whether that's what happened or not. You now are telling us that your recollection is different from hers and contradicts hers; is that correct? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir. Moreover, I just don't understand why she would have signed off on my letter to Senator Riegle explaining that I had just learned of the two fall meetings if she didn't agree with my-with that statement. Senator SARBANES. Now, is this the letter of March 2? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir. Senator SARBANES. On what basis-let me accept your version of this for the moment, for the purpose of these questions. On what basis would Ms. Hanson go to Nussbaum and advise him of these referrals? Mr. ALTMAN. I don't know, Senator, but let us keep in mind that if it related to a press leak or a press inquiry, the Office of Government Ethics has said there is nothing inappropriate in it. Senator SARBANES. Well, now you're the head of the RTC or you were at the time; is that correct? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir. Senator SARBANES. What would have been your reaction if RTC employees had gone to the White House to alert them about these referrals? Mr. ALTMAN. My understanding, Senator, is that the purpose of the meeting or the communication was not to alert the White House in detail about the referrals, but to alert the White House Senator SARBANES. Let's strike the words "in detail." 428 Mr. ALTMAN, As I say, my understanding is that the purpose of the communication was to alert the White House to an impending leak. Senator SARBANES. If employees of the RTC had done that, Mr. Roelle, the regional person, what would have been your reaction to that? Would that have been an appropriate thing to do? Mr. ALTMAN. I think if an RTC employee had advised of an impending press leak that's something I could imagine happening, I could understand happening. Senator SARBANES. It's view that it would have been proper for an RTC employee to have gone to Nussbaum to tell him that these criminal referrals bad been made to the Justice Department?, Mr. ALTMAN. No, sir, I would not have favored, not have thought sensible a communication for the sole purpose of advising the White House of the status of a criminal referral, No, sir, that not what I understand happened. Senator SARBANES. What happened they were advised because there was going to be a press leak and in the course of bearing about the press leak they learned about the criminal referral. Mr. ALTMAN. Senator Sarbanes Senator SARBANES. Would you have sanctioned or regarded as proper or appropriate conduct for an RTC employee to have gone to Nussbaum and advised him of this matter Mr. ALTMAN. Senator Senator SARBANES. -particularly without telling you? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, I wouldn't have thought it appropriate to advise the White House solely for the purpose of communicating to them information on criminal referrals, no, sir, I would not. That's not my understanding, however, of what happened, although I was not there, Senator SARBANES. Would you have regarded it-let's accept your version of the purpose of the conversation. Would you have regarded it as appropriate for an RTC employee to have done that without your knowledge? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, I can imagine that the RTC Public Affairs Office, for instance, would have contacted White House Public Affairs to alert them of an impending story.
August 2, 1994 - Part 6
(01:40:30) Senator SASSER. Well, following up-but you say you don't recall asking her to advise anyone of the referrals coming up? Mr. ALTMAN. I don't believe that I did. Senator SASSER. Pardon? Mr. ALTMAN. I don't believe that I did. Senator SASSER. Did you ask her to consult or discuss with anyone these referrals that were coming up? Mr. ALTMAN. I don't recall doing so, Senator, no. Senator SASSER. Mr. Altman, let me follow up somewhat on the line of questioning that was initiated by Senator SARBANES. You indicated in response to Senator Sarbane's questions that you did not instruct or task Ms. Hanson to go to the White House and discuss the question of the referrals with Mr. Nussbaum or anyone else, but you did indicate that she might have inferred that she should have done so. Could she have inferred that she should have done so from something you might have said and if so, what could that have been? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, I don't recall saying anything which could conceivably constitute a tasking, I don't recall that. I don't recall suggesting that Ms. Hanson brief the White House on this. I have a lot of respect for her. She's a professional. (01:41:55)(tape #10070 ends)
Les Gams: "We Girls"
Scopitone of Les Gams performing "Oui Les Filles (We Girls)" (French lyrics). CU two young Caucasian women windowshopping, camera on other side of shop window; they enter fashion boutique, begin singing with two other white women (apparently the shop keepers) while rummaging through a pile of colorful clothes on display. Nice MS Les Gams holding up shirts for cam, singing chorus, throwing shirts onto cam. MSs hearty-throated French female quartet singing, wreaking havoc with the clothes display, throwing shirts around, trying on masks & unlikely or outright strange hats and lying casually on the display shelves. MS girl rummaging through pile of clothes during piano solo, one singer popping her precocious head out of pile just in time for last verse. MS of the original two finally leaving with bags, the other two following them out, stopping on stoop, waving a fond goodbye.
Jane Morgan: "C'est Si Bon"
Scopitone of Jane Morgan performing "C'est Si Bon (It's So Good)." Opens with great tracking MCU several young Caucasian women wearing yellow miniskirts, pink sash belt, B&W striped shirts, mid-thigh stockings; the Euro dance. MSs singer JANE MORGAN, a middle-aged platinum blonde with curled coif held in check by some serious hair spray application (the fourth sign of the apocalypse is if her hair moves), singing & dancing though a lighting studio made out to be nighttime Parisian street scenes, a model of the Eiffel Tower in BG. MS dark-sexy dancer in yellow mini-skirt kicking up heels on railing, revealing her stockings and underwear. MS Jane Morgan meeting a young white man, dancing & singing in French and English. Despite the easy going cocktail/exotica jazz accompaniment, the trio of slinky Parisian women dance with a frenetic high energy. Great MSs similiarly dressed dancers in yellow mini-skirts and striped tank tops dancing, one girl doing the Swim. MS/CUs Jane singing, smiling, holding glass while sitting opposite man twenty years her junior at "caf ". Great tracking MSs dancers in yellow miniskirts lined up, individually spinning and bending over, arching back, sticking booty out, hands on knees. Great MS Jane smiling & nodding at her table companion, saying, "It's so good."
Salmon Caught By The Ton
Shaky, dull in contrast and imagery Thrilling scenes as huge schools of salmon, returning to the Columbia river to spawn after four years in the ocean, are caught by the hundreds and hauled ashore in horse-drawn nets.
August 2, 1994 - Part 6
(00:55:26) The CHAIRMAN. Senator Sarbanes, could I interrupt based on time to try to extend your time, Senator D'Amato has made a suggestion and I advise all Committee Members we've been going with 7-minute segments. Senator D'Amato has recommended to me that as of now we shift to 10-minute periods so we don't have as many break-ups in the question and therefore, if that's agreeable, we'll do that now and extend Senator Sarbanes by the 3 additional minutes and then from this point on, we'll go in 10-minute segments. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. Mr. Chairman, I agree with that and I wonder then if you'll be sharp with the gavel? The CHAIRMAN. I've been trying to be without being rude to people, so we'll go in that fashion, and Senator Sarbanes is to be recognized for 3 additional minutes. We'll now have 10-minute questioning periods from this point on, Senator SARBANES. You think it would have been proper or appropriate for the Public Affairs Officer of the RTC to bring to the 429 White House's attention for the first time that these criminal referrals have been made to the Justice Department? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, that's not my understanding of what happened. Again, I wasn't there. My understanding of what happened, and I understand this has been confirmed in the depositions, for instance$ which the Office of Government Ethics took, the purpose of the communication was to alert the White House of an impending press leak. We also know Senator SARBANES. But in the course of alerting them, you can't divorce, even if I accept that the purpose was alerting them of the press leak, the fact that that alert brought to their attention the criminal referrals? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, we have the report of the Office of Government Ethics, as you know. Very thorough report, it's an independent agency, It's not part of the Clinton Administration and it coneluded that those contacts were appropriate. Senator SARBANES. Mr. Altman, it's possible not to do something illegal, not to do something unethical, and yet to do something that reflects very bad judgment, is it not? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, it is Senator and a numb er of people have said, Mr. Cutler, Secretary Bentsen, that in hindsight it would have been better had those contacts not occurred. Senator SARBANES. On what basis was Ms. Hanson involved in these RTC matters in any event? I mean you were wearing, two hats, you were Deputy Secretary of the Treasury and the CEO of the RTC. Now on what basis was she brought into these matters? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, I was relying on a number of Treasury staff as my predecessor 7 Mr. Robson, did to help me with RTC matters. I was able to give very little time to the RTC. Two senior staff meetings a week lasted about 11/2 hours each, and I needed help. I asked a number of Treasury staff, Frank Newman, Under Secrets for Domestic Finance, Mike Levy, Assistant Secretary for Legislative Affairs, and others including Jean Hanson to help me out. Senator SARBANES. Ms. Hanson says she would not have gone on her own to Nussbaum to tell him about these criminal referrals, that that is something she would not have done of her own volition, and she did it, therefore, at your behest. What's your response to that? Mr. ALTMAN. I don't recollect that, Senator, I don't think I would have tasked Ms. Hanson to do that. Senator SARBANES. Let's strike the word "ta-sked." Maybe that's-I mean I'm listening very carefully to your answer. Mr. ALTMAN. That's her word. Senator SARBANES. I understand that. Let's try some other words. Did you do anything or make any indication to Ms. Hanson that she should bring this information to the attention of the White House? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, I don't believe that I did. I can't say, of course what she may have inferred. I don't believe that I did. Senator SARBANES. What did you do on the basis of which she might have inferred, I think that 's the word you just used, that she might have inferred that she should go to Nussbaum with this information? 430 Mr. ALTMAN. I don't believe I did anything, Senator. All I'm saying is that she could have perhaps misunderstood, Senator SARBANES. What would she have misunderstood? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, my response is that I don't recall tasking her to do it, I think I would have remembered if I had done it. have a lot of respect for Jean Hanson, we're friends and we're colleagues and I hope we're going to remain so. I'm simply saying that she may have misunderstood. Senator SARBANES. Well, I'm trying to
Lights (Night Driving)
"Topics studied and explained include headlights for vision, signals and general safety; the application of high and low beams; tail and stoplights; turn indicators; auxilliary lights for emergency needs. The dayligt use of headlights is covered, as well as proper use in favorable and unfavorable weather. unusual conditions affecting the use of lights and their efficiency are also included."--AV-ED Films 1347 A: B/W dupe negative 1347 B: B-wind neg. track 1347 C: b/w orig. neg.