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Sports Front - Thoroughbred Racing Horses
Clip: 350626_1_1
Year Shot: 1950 (Actual Year)
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Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1545
Original Film: 023-354-04
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Location: Baltimmore, Maryland
Timecode: 00:48:25 - 00:49:53

Thoroughbred Racing Horses The 74th running of the famed Pimlico Classic sees the favored Hill Prince win by a wide margin over his old derby nemesis, Middleground.

On The Sports Front - Track and Field
Clip: 350627_1_1
Year Shot: 1950 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1545
Original Film: 023-354-04
HD: N/A
Location: Los Angeles, California
Timecode: 00:47:10 - 00:48:24

At Los Angeles, crowds are on hand for 10th Annual Track Classic. Hurdles, sprints and close-decision mile relay are shown in this thrilling round up.

Whitewater Hearings July 25, 1995 Testimony of Patsy Thomasson
Clip: 461138_1_1
Year Shot: 1995 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10125
Original Film: 104790
HD: N/A
Location: Washington DC
Timecode: 16:51:55 - 16:53:37

Whitewater Hearings July 25, 1995 - Testimony of Patsy Thomasson.

August 2, 1994 - Part 4
Clip: 461141_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10068
Original Film: 102874
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(11:00:14) The CHAIRMAN. He turned Mr. Altman around. Mr. Altman went in with one state of mind, prepared to say that he was going to recuse himself and that was not acceptable to the people he was talking to, and they, in effect, caused him to change his judgment, Isn't that what happened? Mr. STEINER. When Mr. Altman returned from the meeting, he said to me that Mr. Nussbaum had made some strong argumentsand it was Mr. Nussbaum I don't believe he said that others had taken positions on it---and he said be was going to sleep on it, The CHAIRMAN. Then how long did he sleep on it before he made the final recusal decision? How many days? Mr. STEINER. He decided the following day. The CHAIRMAN. Was the following day the day of the conversation with the editor of The New York Times? Mr. STEINER. I'm sorry, Senator, I may not have been clear. These events-this February 2 meeting-preceded by almost a month that conversation with the editorial write-up in The New York Times. The CHAIRMAN. That's my point to you. So in other words, he went home to sleep on it and as I understand the record, he slept on it for 20 days. Mr. STEINER. No, Senator. I believe what happened was that Mr. Altman returned from the February 2 meeting, said to me that he Planned to sleep on it. The following day, he decided at that point, be was not going to recuse himself The CHAIRMAN. Not going to recuse himself Mr. STEINER. That is correct. The CHAIRMAN. That's very important. So in other words, he changed his mind. On the 2nd he was going to do it. He got all of this feedback, from Mr. Nussbaum certainly, to the contrary. He came back, said he would sleep on it, slept on it, and the next day 'he changed his mind. That's what you've now said, Mr. STEINER. I think what I said, Senator, is that he was planning to recuse himself He had gotten a variety of different pieces of advice from the members of the Treasury staff and he bad now received additional advice from Mr. Nussbaum. The CHAIRMAN. I'm going to stay within my time. I just want to clarify this last point. So then the next day, he changed his mind, decided that be would not recuse himself mil then some On A--- 380 well, Senator D'Amato refreshes me that the next day apparently he went back to the White House and said that he had decided not to recuse himself. So that signal was sent back over there, that he had a change of mind, and that was now his current thinking., is that correct? Mr. STEINER. I was not aware at the time that he had a meeting, but I did become aware of the fact that he had decided at that time not to recuse himself. The CHAIRMAN. And communicated that decision. Mr. STEINER, I was not aware of the fact that he had communicated it. The CHAIRMAN. We'll come back to that. The point I want to nail" down is that he then changed that decision again, did he not? When did that happen? How many days later did that happen, the conversation with Mr. Raines that you refer to in your diary? Mr. STEINER. Approximately 3 weeks later, Senator. The CHAIRMAN. So about 20 days later, he's in a telephone con- versation with the editor, one of the editors at The New York Times, and he decides afresh that he will recuse himself. That's your understanding of what happened? Mr. STEINER. I don't know if he decided prior to his conversation or not. I do know that he said to Mr. Raines that he was planning to recuse himself or had recused himself. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you. Senator DAmato. Senator DAMATO. Mr. Chairman, Senator Hatch had just a cou- ple of minutes worth of questions so I'm going to yield to him. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Hatch. Senator HATCH. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Senator DAmato" Mr. Steiner, let's go back to February 25-you understood from your February 25 telephone call that Mr. Stephenopoulos thought, that Mr. Stephens should be fired; right? Mr. STEINER. I understood from Mr. Stephanopoulos that he, thought that Mr. Stephens' apparent conflict of interest should dis- qualify him from that position. Senator HATCH. Well, the reason I raise it that way is Jean son in her testimony said: "and I also recall a conversation Mr. Steiner in which he said, 'do you believe those guys? want to see if they can get rid of Jay Stephens.'" You remember that, don't you? Mr. STEINER. No, I do not, Senator. Senator HATCH. So you-could you have said that to Ms. Hanson, who testified to that? Mr. STEINER, I don't recall saying that to Ms. Hanson. Senator HATCH. But you could have said it. Mr. STEINER. Senator, as I said, I don't recall. Senator HATCH. You don't recall one way or the other. Let me ask you this: In your own diary on the 27th, you this is after Howell Raines, you say "but even more amazing George then suggested to me that we needed"--right here even more amazing, when George then suggested to me needed to find a way to get rid of him," you knew that Stephan opoulos had said we'd like to I rid of Mr. Stephens; right? Mr. STEINER. I'm not sure understand your question, Senator 381 Senator HATCH. Did Stephenopoulos ever say to you, did you ever hear them say to you, or did you ever bear of them saying they wanted to get rid of Jay Stephens down there at the White House. Mr. STEINER. I don't recall them saying that, no. Senator HATCH. Even though you put in your diary "but even more amazing when George then suggested to me that we needed to find a way to get rid of him," you wrote that, didn't you. Mr. STEINER. Senator, I've tried to give you as best I can my recollection of that conversation. Senator HATCH Did you write that?

Paris Hails Juliana Of Holland
Clip: 350637_1_1
Year Shot: 1950 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1546
Original Film: 023-356-03
HD: N/A
Location: Paris, France
Timecode: 00:01:40 - 00:02:22

Paris Hails Juliana Of Holland The first Royal couple to visit Paris since before the war, Queen Juliana of Holland and her Consort, Prince Bernhard, get a warm welcome as they arrive on a state visit. Pres. Auriol is gracious host to the popular Juliana.

Hirohito Daughter's Wedding
Clip: 350638_1_1
Year Shot: 1950 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1546
Original Film: 023-356-04
HD: N/A
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Timecode: 00:02:23 - 00:02:59

Hirohito Daughter's Wedding Dressed in ancient-style wedding kimono, her hair done up in elaborate lacquer coiffure, Princess Taka renounces Royal Status to wed a poor museum attendant. Emperor and Empress pose with happy couple following ceremony at wedding hall.

August 2, 1994 - Part 4
Clip: 461142_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10068
Original Film: 102874
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(11:05:36) Mr. STEINER. Senator, I wrote that and I take responsibility for writing it. What I'm doing today is give you as best I can, my recollection of the conversation that took place, and as I've said before, my intention in keeping this diary was not to give you a precise narrative of the events that occurred. I often use shorthand. Senator HATCH. But this was written 2 days after the event, and it was close in time, and this was what your recollection was then correct? Mr. STEINER. Senator, as I said Senator HATCH. Yes or no. Mr. STEINER. Senator, as I said, my effort was not necessarily to put down my precise recollection of events that occurred. The purpose for which you keep a document matters. Senator HATCH. That's not the point. My point is, is that true or isn't it? Mr. STEINER. Senator Senator HATCH. Is your diary entry true or isn't it? Mr. STEINER. I have tried to testify today as best I can my recollection of the conversation that took place. Senator HATCH. All right. Also on February 25 you were in Mr. Altman's office when Harold Ickes and George Stephanopoulos were on the phone with him; right? Mr. STEINER. That's correct, Senator. Senator HATCH, You understood from hearing Mr. Altman's side of the conversation and from what Mr. Altman said to you afterwards that Mr. Stephanopoulos and Mr. Ickes were upset that the RTC had hired Jay Stephens; right? Mr. STEINER. That's correct, Senator. Senator HATCH. Now, it's true, isn't it, that you told Jean Hanson that you thought it was incredible and inappropriate that Ellen Kulka had hired Jay Stephens? Mr. STEINER. I don't recall saying that to her, no. Senator HATCH. Could you have said it? Mr. STEINER. As I said, Senator, I don't recall saying it to her. Senator HATCH. It's also true, isn't it, you asked Jean Hanson whether the RTC civil action could be given to the Whitewater Special Counsel, Robert Fiske, rather than be handled by Ellen Kulka or Jay Stephens, Mr. STEINER. I don't recall saying it at that time, no, Senator. Senator HATCH. Well, do you deny that you made that suggestion to Ms. Hanson? 382 Mr. STEINER. I recall a conversation, I cannot place it directly in time, but I do not believe it was then, Senator, where there was discussion as to whether the RTC should turn over the civil case to Mr. Fiske. I do not believe it took place on February 25. Senator HATCH. Did you think it was incredible and inappropriate that Ellen Kulka had hired Jay Stephens? Mr. STEINER. I thought it was surprising that the RTC had hired Mr. Stephens, yes. Senator HATCH. You fully understood that the RTC retained the decisionmaking power even though they had hired Stephens? He couldn't do anything they didn't approve of Did you understand that? Mr. STEINER. I was not aware, Senator, of how investigations got carried out in any detail at the RTC. Senator HATCH. Is it also true that you told Jean Hanson that you thought that Ellen Kulka should be fired for having hired Jay Stephens. Mr. STEINER. I do not recall saying that to Ms. Hanson, no. Senator HATCH. That's what Ms. Hanson says. She' says here yesterday "in fact, Joshua Steiner, the Chief of Staff to Secretary of Treasury, Bentsen, had told you"-this is my question-"that he thought Ellen Kulka should be fired for hiring Stephens didn't he?'. Ms. Hanson said: "Yes, he did." Do you recall that at all? Mr. STEINER. No, I do not. Senator HATCH. Who suggested to you the possibility of Mr. Fiske taking over the RTC civil action, Podesta, Stern, Stephanopoulos, Ickes, or Altman? Mr. STEINER. I don't recall if anyone suggested it to me, Senator. Senator HATCH. You're not a lawyer, are you, Mr. Steiner. Mr. STEINER. No, I'm not. Senator HATCH. Were you aware that according to the testimony from Lloyd Cutler, President Clinton was aware of Jay, Stephens's hiring at this time and had expressed concerns to Harold Ickes.: about the hiring? Mr. STEINER. No, I was not aware at the time, Senator, Senator HATCH. Did Mr. Fiske or his staff ask you whether George Stephanopoulos bad suggested to you that you needed to" find a way to get rid of Jay Stephens? Mr. STEINER, I was interviewed by Mr. Fiske's staff, and I testified before the Grand Jury, Senator. I recall that this topic came up. I cannot recall the precise questions that they asked me, and I also, not being a lawyer, would want to be careful to ensure that I protected the privacy of the Grand Jury. Senator HATCH. Did Mr. Fiske or his staff ask you whether you; told Jean Hanson that Ellen Kulka should be fired? Mr. STEINER. I don't recall that question being asked, no, sir. Senator HATCH. Did Mr. Fiske or his staff ask you whether you inquired of Ms. Hanson whether Mr. Fiske could take over investigation of Madison Guaranty? Mr. STEINER. I do not recall being asked that question, Senator HATCH. Then Mr. Fiske may not have been as in his investigation as he's indicated in the past.

White Queen In Africa. Lady Ruth (Williams) Khama
Clip: 350482_1_1
Year Shot: 1950 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1541
Original Film: 023-332-03
HD: N/A
Location: Botswana, East Africa
Timecode: 00:54:34 - 00:55:14

White Queen In Africa. Lady Ruth (Williams) Khama Bamangwato come rare films of Ruth Williams, one-time London typist, now queen Ruth Khama ruling over 100,000 subjects with her native husband, King Seretse Khama. Seretse Khama chief in waiting of the powerful Banargwato tribe. Seretse Khama was the first President of the state of Botswana.

August 2, 1994 - Part 4
Clip: 461143_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10068
Original Film: 102874
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(11:10:24) Mr. Nye, yesterday Ms. Kulka testified about the status of Madison/ Whitewater case. Ms. Kulka told us that as of February 383 2: One, there were numerous witnesses that needed to be interviewed; two, there were many documents to be reviewed; three, there was much work that needed to be done in order to investigate the case prior to the 28th and that she so informed Mr. Altman, on February 1, the day before he went to the White House. Did you also attend that meeting on February 1, where Ms. Kulka briefed Mr. Altman? Mr. NYE. I believe I did, yes. Senator HATCH. Mr. Nye, you testified under oath at your deposition as follows: Question: What was--what do you mean when you say the situation that Ellen Kulka was facing? Answer. That she was going to be forced to make a decision on how to proceed without perfect information on a politically charged or potentially politically charged case. Right, you said that? Mr. NYE. I believe so. Senator HATCH. Let me read further. Question: What did Ms. Kulka say about the imperfections of the information at that point? Answer: Just that she wouldn't have enough time between-her feeling was that she wouldn't have enough time between them, the date of the meeting and the 28th, the statute of limitations expiration, to make as an informed decision as she would need to make. In her opinion, that wouldn't be enough time to sort of go through all of these mountains of documents and so forth or for her staff to do so and that ultimately she would have to be making a decision with the best information possible at that time. Question: So the shortness of time and the inability to develop fully the facts of the case was identified as problems? Answer: Yes. Is that right? Mr. NYE. Yes, I believe that's right. Senator HATCH, You did testify truthfully at your deposition? Mr. NYE. Yes, I did, and I think I also responded to that today. It's in both cases that she would have to make a decision or a recommendation. Senator HATCH. Just one last question. Now, earlier during today's testimony, you testified that one of the points Ms. Kulka discussed with Mr. Altman was the tolling agreement. Is it true that one of the issues discussed was whether or not it would be necessary to present a tolling agreement to President Clinton and the First Lady? Mr. NYE. I believe that was part of the discussion on the 1st of February. Certainly, the subject of a tolling agreement, and whether or not to present it to the President and First Lady, that I'm less certain of Senator HATCH. Mr. Chairman, could I ask one last question of Mr. Foreman? And I'll be through. The CHAIRMAN. All right. If that will finish your line of questioning Senator HATCH If I could, Mr. Foreman, 'you testified in your deposition on February 25, that you and Jean Hanson reviewed a videotape of Roger Altman's Banking Committee testimony on February 24; is that correct? Mr. FOREMAN. Sir, I haven't had a chance to review my transcript. I just saw it today, but February 24 was the date of the hearing. it couldn't have been that 384 Senator HATCH. Was it the day after, then? Mr. FOREMAN. I do not know. I remember that I taped it in the middle of the night on C-Span. Whether it was Thursday night or the weekend, I can't tell you. Senator HATCH. But you did review the videotape with Ms. Hanson Mr. FOREMAN. I reviewed a portion of the videotape with Ms. Hanson. Senator HATCH. What portion was that? Mr. FOREMAN. To the best of my recollection, there was a portion of Senator Bond's questioning that we looked at together. Senator HATCH. Is it also the case that at various times during the day on February 25 or the day when you viewed this or imme- diately thereafter, you and Jean Hanson transcribed portions of Mr. Altman's testimony from the video itself? Mr. FOREMAN. At some point, when we were watching Senator Bond's period of questioning, she wrote down a question and answer, or a couple of questions and answers about that, that is correct. Senator HATCH. In other words, made her own transcript of what was said on the videotape? Mr. FOREMAN. She was trying to do that, yes, I think, on those couple of questions. Senator HATCH. Was that within a day or so after the hearing? Mr. FOREMAN. Senator, I wish I could tell you exactly Senator HATCH. It doesn't have to be exactly. Mr. FOREMAN. It was either Friday or Monday, it was within a couple of days. Friday or Monday, whenever-after I had taped it on C-Span. Senator HATCH. In your deposition, you said it was the day after. Mr. FOREMAN. If that's what I said, that was my best recollection at the time. I do not know when I recorded it on C-Span. My idea was that it was the day after we talked about it. It could have been Monday. I don't know for sure. Senator HATCH. But you do recall sitting down with her and reviewing that portion of the transcript, Senator Bond's questions, and her making some notes as to the actual words? Mr, FOREMAN. Almost, Senator. We didn't quite sit down. I re- member that she looked at part of Senator Bond's questioning and wrote down one or two questions and answers about it. That's the best I can remember.

Ross Perot Press Conference
Clip: 444766_1_1
Year Shot: 1970 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 1090
Original Film: COOPER REEL 15
HD: N/A
Location: Ft. Worth, Texas
Timecode: 01:35:07 - 01:36:54

TLS press conference, cam in back of room. MSs Texas businessman ROSS PEROT speaking into microphone. MS placard titled, "Please send a letter to Hanoi!" with photo of American POW in Vietnamese cell. Head-on TLS unmoving audience of Caucasians, including one USAF airman looking particularly button-lipped. MS/CUs Ross Perot addressing audience, telling them to write to 1970 political congressional candidates and demand that they make the release of American POWs a plank of their campaign platforms. Perot, " the candidates for Congress and the Senate this year, urging them to make the immediate release of the prisoners, part of their written campaign platform. Now, from your point of view that s not too significant, maybe, but from the North Vietnamese point of view, that s the definition of what an issue is. It s a part of the campaign platforms of most of the Senators and Congressmen that are running in 1970. That s a classic definition of an issue, from their point of view. I think that every Senator and Congressmen running, without regard to how they feel about the war, will take a strong written position, get it into print, talk about it. Then I want you to do one other thing, after you get them to do that, get a copy of their written platform; mail it to Hanoi. Get a copy of their speeches as they are made and the statements, clip those out. Always address these letters in long hand, don t look real organized. It needs to look spontaneous because it is spontaneous. You saw it; you decided to do something. Send that to them. And as they see this, they are very statistically oriented. I just guarantee you, they ll have a group of elves over there, opening the mail and counting it and sorting it and saying we used to get 100 letters a day protesting prisoners treatment and now we re getting 50 thousand a day, what s happening?

George Bush campaigning for Senate
Clip: 444767_1_1
Year Shot: 1970 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 1090
Original Film: COOPER REEL 15
HD: N/A
Location: Ft. Worth, Texas
Timecode: 01:36:56 - 01:37:26

MS Rep. GEORGE BUSH (R-TX) speaking to crowd at Ross Perot press conference regarding Letter to Hanoi mission while also campaigning for Senate seat. George Bush (George Herbert Walker Bush) says that all Congressmen should take a firm position & contact the leaders of North Vietnam. George HW Bush, without regard to one s own personal position, I think every member of Congress, every United States Senator, every candidate whatever it is, should take a position, a firm out-going, forward position, contact the leaders in Hanoi, contact the other members of Congress and make a united front, united we stand, on this one thing. And I am convinced that it will have the effects that Ross Perot said. And thank you very much for letting me talk.

Pope Pius XII Receives Pilgrims
Clip: 350490_1_1
Year Shot: 1950 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1542
Original Film: 023-333-04
HD: N/A
Location: Rome, Italy
Timecode: 00:09:01 - 00:09:43

Pope Pius XII Receives Pilgrims Pope Pius XII receives and blesses 500 American holy year pilgrims headed by Francis Cardinal Spellman of New York. Pope being carried by holy porters and he is blessing the masses of people who gathered to honor his holiness. People cheering and waving at his holiness, Pope Pius. CU of Pope Pius greeting and blessing followers.

Bull Turns Tables
Clip: 350491_1_1
Year Shot: 1950 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1542
Original Film: 023-333-05
HD: N/A
Location: Spain, Europe
Timecode: 00:09:49 - 00:10:39

Bull Turns Tables: The bull isn't supposed to win, but this one didn't know the rules and runs amok taking on all available toreadors and wins. This bull is head-bunting the toreadors. Hooray for the bull.

Braves In Training
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Year Shot: 1950 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1542
Original Film: 023-333-06
HD: N/A
Location: BRADENTON, FL
Timecode: 00:10:39 - 00:11:19

Braves In Training: Under the watchful eye of Billy Southworth, the Braves get unlimbered for another pennant drive this year and with high hopes. CU of a baseball players pitching. MCU of a batter. CU of a African American baseball players. MS shots of batters No-4 hits the ball.

Giants Warm Up
Clip: 350493_1_1
Year Shot: 1950 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1542
Original Film: 023-333-07
HD: N/A
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Timecode: 00:11:19 - 00:11:55

Giants Warm Up: Leo Durocher has more lip than ever as he watches his charges go through some snappy workouts. He has some promising new comers. Baseball players running on to the field. CU of African American players. No-23 takes a swing at a ball and hits it, No-12 catches it and No-47 slides into base.

Champs Get Going - NY Yankees
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Year Shot: 1950 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1542
Original Film: 023-333-08
HD: N/A
Location: ST. PETERSBURG, FL
Timecode: 00:11:55 - 00:12:22

Champs Get Going - NY Yankees: The Yanks aren't resting on their laurels, as they go through some strenuous spring training paces. CU of managers and team leaders. No-5 hits a ball and takes off. No-26 does the same thing.

Glove Winners
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Year Shot: 1950 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1542
Original Film: 023-333-09
HD: N/A
Location: New York, NY
Timecode: 00:12:23 - 00:13:39

Glove Winners: Golden Gloves. The spectators at the boxing match really get into the sport!

August 2, 1994 - Part 4
Clip: 461144_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10068
Original Film: 102874
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(11:15:19) The CHAIRMAN. Thank you, Senator Hatch. Senator HATCH. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Shelby. Senator SHELBY. Mr. Steiner, do you believe basically, as a basic belief, that when someone asks you a straight question that you ought to answer it, or anyone ought to answer it, with a straight answer? Mr. STEINER. Yes, sir. Senator SHELBY. A straight question deserves a straight answer, not misleading, not evasive, not something less than candid. Mr. STEINER. That's correct. 385 Senator SHELBY. Would you say that's especially true when we were holding oversight hearings, not just today, but the bearings that Mr. Altman attended back in February. Mr. STEINER. I think it's always true Senator SHELBY. Would you agree with that? Mr. STEINER. Yes, I would. Senator SHELBY. I want to go back again to your diary, and I'm going to quote from it. I'm on Deposition Exhibit 4. I'm sure you're familiar with it, and this is dated February 13, the dates to Feb- ruary 7, 1994, lines 7 forward we have here. And I'm quoting "ini- tially " these are your words in your diary-"initially, we all felt that he should," he being Roger Altman, "he should recuse himself to prevent even the appearance of a conflict." You agreed with that statement that was in your diary? Do you disagree with those words that you put down in your diary? Mr. STEINER. As I said before, Senator, I think if you got conflicting Senator SHELBY. I asked you a straight up question. Do you dis- agree or agree with those words? "Initially we all felt, we," you and some of the people around you---"felt that we should" - "that he, Roger Altman, should recuse himself to prevent even the appear- ance," the appearance "of a conflict." Mr. STEINER. I would not say everyone in the Treasury felt that way, no, sir. Senator SHELBY. Did you feel that way? Mr. STEINER. Did I feel he should recuse himself? Senator SHELBY. Yes. Mr. STEINER. Yes, I did, Senator. Senator SHELBY. And you go on to use this word "at a fateful"-- fateful to Mr. Altman, or fateful to the White House, or fateful to whom---"at a fateful White House meeting with Nussbaum, Ickes, and Williams, however, the White House staff told Roger Altman that it was unacceptable," that his recusal, was unacceptable. Roger Altman had gone to brief them on the impending statute of limitations deadline, and also to tell them of his recusal decision. They reacted very negatively to the recusal, and Roger Alt-man backed down the next day and a agreed to a de facto recusal, where the RTC would handle the case life any other and so forth. Again, let's go over who was at the meeting today. They, who is "they," Mr. Ickes? Mr. STEINER. Mr. Ickes was in attendance, yes, sir. Senator SHELBY. Who else was there, Ms. Williams? Mr. STEINER. Ms. Williams, yes. Senator SHELBY. She works with Mrs. Clinton; is that right? Mr. STEINER. That's correct. Senator SHELBY. Who else was there? Mr. STEINER. Mr. Nussbaum. Senator SHELBY. Mr. Altman? Mr. STEINER. Mr. Altman and Ms. Hanson. Senator SHELBY. Is this the meeting we've beard about that took Place in Mr. McLarty's office that was set up for that. Mr. STEINER. That's correct. Senator SHELBY. Mr. McLarty was not there during the meeting but the meeting was set in his offices; is that correct? 386 Mr. STEINER. I did not attend the meeting. It was my understanding that he was not present. Senator SHELBY. What did you mean by the word "fateful"? At a fateful White House-what did -you mean then? What do you mean now? Mr. STEINER. Sure. Senator SHELBY. First, what did you mean then when you put it down, that it was fateful? Mr. STEINER. Senator, as I've said, I believe this was written on February 27, which was after press stories and editorials had come out about this meeting, and in hindsight nearly a month after the meeting took place, I considered it fateful. Senator SHELBY. Now, I want to quote some more from your diary here on the same page. It goes down and it's not broken down into paragraphs, but you can find it. "Once again, they" they being the people at the White House; is that right, that you've just enumerated? "They were very concerned about him," meaning Roger Altman; is that right? "About him turning the RTC people they didn't know. So Roger Altman did not formally commit himself. "Once again, they were very concerned about him turning the RTC people." Are you talking about a political turning, turning them, trying to persuade them to a different course of action? How do you use the word "turning" that way? That's generally what it means, isn't it, when you turn a witness, you change them? When you turn someone you change them? Mr. STEINER That was not the Senator SHELBY. Isn't that the ordinary use of the term, though? Mr. STEINER. That was not the context in which Senator SHELBY. What context were you using it in? Mr. STEINER. I was using it in the context of him stepping down as interim CEO, relinquishing his position as interim CEO. Senator SHELBY. Let's go over that again. You didn't say any of that here as I read it. "Once again, they were very concerned about him , being Mr. Altman, "turning the RTC people le, they didn't know." In other words, they werent familiar with him, they didn't know him. "So Roger Altman did not formally commit himself " Why would they be upset about him possibly recusing himself? Why?

Shirley Temple Black - US Delegate- US Chief of Protocol
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MCU United States Delegate to the United Nations (she might have been the US Chief of Protocol at this point) SHIRLEY TEMPLE BLACK talking about the United States finally politically recognizing the People's Republic of China as the official government of China and Taiwan is a part of the country. She says there's a different between recognizing a country and having full diplomatic relations with a country. It's basically, and it's probably going to surprise Americans that we haven't done it, but we have never recognized The People's Republic of China as the government of China and that Taiwan is a part of that China. There is a difference between recognizing a country and having full diplomatic relations with a country. First you should recognize the country. This is good in one way particularly because China, The People s Republic of China, does not have to comment on this recognition, but it reaffirms to them what we started to say in the Shanghai Communique of 1972, that we do recognize The People's Republic of China as the government of China.

Ronald Reagan Speech
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4K UHD file available -- Former Governor of California Ronald Reagan speaking at a Republican banquet. Long table of predominantly male adult Caucasians listening. Several elderly GOP party members sitting on stage, listening & laughing. Republicans in audience, listening. Ronald Reagan: "...a greater tax burden than any of us would have ever dreamed possible only a few decades ago. In 1930, governments, federal, state and local, between them only took 10 cents out of every dollar earned. Today, governments are taking 44 cents out of every dollar earned. In 1930, only 1/3 of that dime ran the federal government. Today, 2/3 of that 44 cents is the federal government's share. The cost of government is the biggest single expense item in the average family budget. It is greater than food, shelter and clothing for the family all put together. And it is the fastest growing cost item in our daily living." Reagan speaks at press conference following speaking after engagement, talks against Carter administration, its appointees and economic policies.

Colin Davis Case
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Unidentified Caucasian man (lawyer, attorney) commenting about a recent court decision regarding the Colin Davis case.

Quake Ravages Inca Capital
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Quake Ravages Inca Capital The ancient capital of the Incas high in the Andes is partially destroyed by an earthquake, which takes the lives of 83. In 1950 another bad earthquake of 7 in the Mercalli scale had shaken the old Inkan Capital that left just one quarter of its buildings standing.

August 2, 1994 - Part 4
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(11:20:43) Mr. STEINER. Let me, if I might, Senator, give you the context of the circumstances surrounding this issue, which were as follows: I'm not an expert on this, but under the terms of the Vacancy Act, Mr. Altman's term as CEO was due to expire at the end of March. Unless the Administration had formally nominated a successor, Mr. Altman's tenure would expire. The question at hand was whether Mr. Altman should announce at the February 24 hearing that be planned definitely to step down at the end of his term or whether he should leave open the question in the event that the Administration had to formally nominate a successor. Senator SHELBY. Let me ask you this: Could those words you use there in your diary, could they have been-could it be interpreted, fairly that the White House people you were talking to there, or who knew that you were talking to him, did not want Altman to retain-to resign his job because they wanted him to retain it In 387 order to exert political control over an independent agency? That could be a fair reading of that, couldn't it, because his resignation, or his recusal, when they told him was unacceptable to him. Mr. STEINER. Senator , I want to be very clear on this. If my words are interpreted that way, that's my fault because that certainly was not my intention. My intention was on the sole subject of him stepping down as interim CEO of the RTC. Senator SHELBY. Now, one of the leading papers in the country, The Washington Post's writer, Howard Schneider, said today, I guess it was today, talking about your position, "now Steiner's lawyer is positioning him for a major league correction."' You're not going through a major league correction on your diaries today or you're not trying to do that? I know you're trying to explain some of it away but you're not trying to do an about face before this Committee on those diaries? Mr. STEINER. Senator, I'm trying to testify as accurately and completely as I possibly can, as I have done in four other instances of sworn testimony. Senator SHELBY. But you basically stand by your diaries? Mr. STEINER. Senator, I wrote them. I take Senator SHELBY. You didn't write them and put misleading information, or stories, or lies in them, did you? Mr. STEINER. It would have been easier for me, I suspect better for this Committee had I Senator SHELBY. Did you Mr. STEINER. Might I finish? Senator SHELBY. Go ahead. Mr. STEINER. It would have been easier for me and I suspect better for this Committee had I chosen my words more precisely or more accurately but that was not my intention or my intention was not to use the diary in this kind of format. That was not the purpose for keeping it. Senator SHELBY. We know it would be better for you, today, if we didn't have the diaries, But it's better for us and the American people that we have them because they gave us an inside contemporaneous view of what was going on over there, at least from your perspective and what you saw, what you observed, and what you were involved with. Thank you. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you, Senator Shelby. I've asked Senator DAmato if he would yield just briefly to me because I want to pursue one point that Senator Shelby made. I would appreciate it if you would turn to the first page of your diary entry, go about two- thirds of the way down, that second large paragraph, the sentence starts, "once again, they were very concerned." I'm going to ask you to read that sentence. Do you find that? Mr. STEINER. Yes, I have. The CHAIRMAN. OK Now, I want you to look at it for a minute, and then I'd like you to read that sentence verbatim. Mr. STEINER. "Once again, they were very concerned about him turning the RTC people they didn't know so RA did not formally commit himself to stepping -down [he could stay on if we had formally nominated a successor]." 388 The CHAIRMAN. Now, is that sentence-is that the way you put it in there? Mr. STEINER. Senator, I tried to transcribe this as exactly as I could. It would appear to me that a word is missing or at least, perhaps several words are missing. I suspect when I wrote it out by hand-I write this diary quickly and don't pay particular attention to my exact syntax and I don't go back to correct it. The CHAIRMAN. Do you have the notes from which you typed it? Mr. STEINER. I did not bring them with me, Senator. The CHAIRMAN. But do you have them? Mr. STEINER. My attorney does, yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. If you think that sentence is incorrectly transcribed, then I think we would need to see your notes on that sen. tence because I think what Senator Shelby has just pointed out is very important. Mr. STEINER. Senator, I will happily provide that to the Committee. I tried to be as careful as I possibly could in transcribing it and as I said, it was possible in the original text which was hand written, I left out words. Senator SHELBY. Mr. Chairman I wonder if he could go ahead and talk to his lawyer and get those notes this afternoon. They probably might be here in the room.

World-Wide News Events / High-Flying Wee Bee
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Location: San Diego, California
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World-Wide News Events / High-Flying Wee Bee San Diego, California The inventor of the Wee Bee pushes the small plane on to the run way of the small airport. Then he demonstrates how light it is by lifting it up. The Wee Bee, smallest airplane in the world weighing a mere 250 pounds, two air port attendants then assist the pilot on to the plane. The pilot lays on his stomach on the fuselage then he is strapped on to the plane by harnesses. He operates the tail and rudder by using his feet. The Wee Bee takes off on the runway and once in the air the pilot seems to have not trouble piloting the plane. The plane soars to an altitude of 9,500 feet and makes a right bank with no problem.

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