With balmy breezes we can expect some balmy drivers. But this display is too, too much! Two Frenchmen have their country on it's collective ear, over their car balancing act. And maybe we're not a little bug-eyed too... Paris, France A car that is driven on two wheels on the driver's side of the car with a latter mounted on the back window. CUS - On of the stunt drivers wearing a crash helmet. A close up shot of the driver Jon ? and he's putting on his crash helmet. MCUS - Rigging up a standard car with a conventional latter sticking straight up in the air. MS - The driver of the car starts out on four wheels, drives up on a single wheel ramp, that put's the car on two wheels, driver side. MS - As one guy drives on two wheels, the other mounts the latter and doe's a hand stand as the other guy dirves,
(09:55:14) 283 Now, let us move to the first of the year. We are in a period where there is immense pressure on the Whitewater investigation with regard to the statute of limitations, which is about to run out. Roger Altman is concerned about people believing that there is something wrong with a very close friend of the President, himself being in charge of an investigation that might involve the President. He decides to recuse himself. We have all kinds of sworn statements that he decided to do it. He comes over to the White House on February 2 to deliver the message. He has a briefing paper saying he is going to do it. Yet he walks out of the meeting and he has not recused himself. Not one single person can recall anyone ever saying to him, do not recuse yourself. But in a diary that the Treasury Chief of Staff and sort of confidante of Mr. Altman is writing during the period, Roger- Altman is described as having originally decided to recuse himself. But intense pressure from the White House, Mr. Steiner then writes, at a fateful White House meeting with Nussbaum, Ickes and Williams, the White House staff told Roger Altman that his recusal was unacceptable. Obviously unacceptable that he take himself out of this Whitewater investigation, which is what recusal means. Again, in outlining the advantages and the disadvantages of the recusal, this same Chief of Staff puts on his computer, that the White House may feel defenseless prior to the appointment of a new CEO if Roger Altman left, stepped down, took himself out of the Whitewater investigation. Now, I assume, Ms. Williams, you do not recall anyone ever saying to Roger Altman that he ought not to recuse himself either? Ms. WILLIAMS. I believe in my testimony I indicated that I said why should you recuse yourself if you intend to accept the recommendation of the RTC staff, whatever that might be. Senator GRAMM- And in fact, we know from last night, that the President was upset when Roger Altman did recuse himself, be''cause the President felt he was being stampeded into it, though Roger Altman himself thought he should do it. Secretary Bentsen 'has told us he thought that Altman should do it. Now, he calls you up the day later, at least we think he does, land he says, I want you to set up a meeting. He is come on the 'road to Damascus. He has had a dramatic conversion. Nobody told him not to recuse himself, but he changes his mind for some reason. From the Treasury, Mr. Altman calls you up and says, I want to come over to the White House and tell people that I am not ,going to take myself out of the Madison investigation. I want you to get people together, he tells you, because I want to come over ,-there and tell them. Mr. Altman comes over to the White House, to your office. You gathered these people together. He sticks his head in the door and ,says, I have decided not to take myself out of the Whitewater investigation. You say that the meeting lasted 10 minutes. I talk pretty slowly. Mr. Altman's from New York. He talks real fast. There is a little problem there, but lot me ask you a question. Ms. WILLIAMS. Certainly. 284 Senator GRAMM. I do not think of you, as Chief of Staff for The First Lady, as being in the chain of command at the White House, Why would Roger Altman call the Chief of Staff of the First Lady and ask her to set up this meeting? MS. WILLIAMS. Well, first of all, let me try and explore with you a little bit your first premise, which is you do not think of me being in the chain of command in the White House. If I am an Assistant to the President, one of 17, when there are approximately, what, about a thousand employees in the Executive Branch, then clearly my position puts me, if not in the chain of command, certainly in an area where decisions that are being made might come to my attention. Senator GRAMM. But why you? Ms. WILLIAMS. Well, Senator GRAMM. On this issue, on the recusal issue, which you say you were not even interested in, and I do not doubt that, why you? Why did he call you? Ms. WILLIAMS. You would have to ask Mr. Altman why he called me. Senator GRAMM. Why do you think he called you? Ms. WILLIAMS. One, Mr. Altman and I talked frequently about Health Care, all the time, in fact. In fact, one of the things that I did both as an Assistant to the President and Chief of Staff to the First Lady is I did a lot of meeting facilitation. I would try and get Senator GRAMM. Well, but he says in his diary that he had talked to you about Whitewater. He has in quotes that you had told him, "that the First Lady was paralyzed by it."
(10:00:44) Ms. WILLIAMS. Senator Gramm, you must let me take one ques- tion at a time. If you want me to go back and talk about the diary, then I am happy to do so. If you want me to finish this one question Senator GRAMM. My one problem is that my light is about to turn red and I am not going to get back to ask a question for 2 hours. You understand that. Ms. WILLIAMS. I understand that, but my problem is I have to tell you what I know. The CHAIRMAN. We will give you a chance, when he finishes, to answer both questions. Senator GRAMM. If, on my time, you will go back and try to tell me why you think he, of all the people he could have called, why he would call the Chief of Staff of the First Lady to set up this meeting for him to come over and say, I am not taking myself out of the investigation of Madison? Ms. WILLIAMS. First of all, let me say that I am very uncomfortable speculating about why Mr, Altman called me, because it will only be speculation. But I will say that I talk to Mr. Altman regularly in the course, of Health Care. I will say that I am known to be a person who puts people together to facilitate meetings. I would also say that I have instant access to Mr. Ickes, Mr. Stephanopoulos, and also people in the Counsel's Office. 285 So I think it might have been as a matter of convenience kind of one- stop shopping, since this is what I had done (10:02:10)(tape #10087 ends)
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Title card: Castle Films Presents "The News Parade of the Year 1951" -- "Royal Couple Visits U.S." England: Princess Elizabeth wearing British military uniform, seated on horseback for the Trooping the Colour; British Army foot-guardsmen wearing ceremonial uniforms and bearskins (hats) parade in review. Household Division marches past Princess Elizabeth, she salutes. Male VO mentions Britain's economic problems at home and abroad. United States: Princess Elizabeth and Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh disembark from Royal Canadian Air Force jet liner. Elizabeth and Phillip are greeted by U.S. President Harry S. Truman, First Lady Bess Truman, and daughter Margaret Truman. Adult Caucasian male U.S. Navy Sailors on tarmac. Elizabeth and Philip greeting crowds in Washington D.C., Philip dressed in Royal Navy uniform.
(11:00:00)(tape #1008 begins) turns out to be some number of months before in this setting we are getting these facts this late in the game in a complete and a full way. I mean, that is not good practice. You know that . Why did that not happen? Mr. McLARTY. Mr. Chairman, I fully concur with your comments I about complete testimony. I would underscore again that, while this was Treasury testimony, Mr. Podesta and others did try to make certain to the best of their ability it was complete. I believe they feel they did so in a timely manner. Now you press that matter further with Mr. Podesta and I think he more precisely answer. The CHAIRMAN, I will do that. I have got to put the Committee in recess. Our time to vote on the Floor is about to expire and I want to go make the vote. So we will resume very shortly. I would say within 10 minutes. The Committee stands in recess. 305 Mr. McLARTY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (11:00:54) [Recess.] (11:00:56) Commentary of hearings hosts DON BODE and NINA TOTENBERG from tv studios, they also talk to TERRY LEMONS of the Arkansas Gazette and Senator RICHARD BRYAN
Queen Juliana and Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands arrive in Mexico for a state visit. They are received with wild acclaim. Their daughter Princess Beatrix accompanies them. Daughter Irene, who is to marry a Spanish Prince did not make the trip with them. Mexico City, Mexico OH shot view of Mexico City. MLS - Many people have turned out to greet the Royalty of the Netherlands, Queen Juliana and Prince Bernhard accompanied by their daughter Princess Beatrix. MS - President Aldolfo Lopez Mateos runs up and greets Queen Juliana and Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands. MS - The motorcade driving down the street's of Mexico City and once they drive through the downtown area it looks like snow, but actually it's tons of ticker tape being thrown out the windows. MCUS - Huge signs welcoming them in the Dutch. MCUS - Princess Juliana and Prince Bernhard at the Teotihuacan Ruins, ancient pre Aztec culture.
Shea Stadium in Flushing Meadow, New York is dedicated with fanfare. Shea Stadium is the home of the New York Mets. William A. Shea, after whom the Stadium is named gives a speech. Shea Stadium is the last word in appointments. Even have escalators. Football's Cinderella team -- The New York Jets will call Shea home also. Flushing Meadow, New York Camera panning an overall shot of the World's Fair Grounds and finely ends up at a new stadium that was built, Shea Stadium dedicated by New York's major, Robert Wagner and manager Casey Stengel of the New York Mets. MCUS - World Fair President - Robert Moses. Camera pans up - Focusing on the seating arrangement. LS - Shea Stadium that will be also the home of the New York Jets, football team
In Europe, a couple hundred dedicated bicyclists take off on a cross-country race that is both back breaking and heart breaking. Real rough. And in Spain, they go all out in hill and dale motorcycle race. Take your choice but only the hale and hearty can compete.... France Hundreds of bicyclists come speeding around the bend. MS - This test has 125 men competing over 150 mile course, its a tough race between men and machines. MS - The winner gliding in, he's a German. Spain Down South - south Europe that is the motorcyclists. Its the International race of one of the most competitive courses ever built. Its the International race if Barcerlona and its considered more dangerous than a bull fight. MS - The motorcycles racing up the dirt hills with the man made bumps. MS - Cyclist banking a dust covered curve and the winner takes the checker flag.
Curtain goes up on a new stadium in New York. Shea Stadium. New home of Casey Stengel's New York Mets. 50,000 fans see the season's opener. It turns out to be woeful watching as the METS lose to Pittsburgh. 4 to 3. But just wait until tomorrow, or the next day -- or the next..... Flushing Meadow, New York Outside shot of the new stadium taken from the parking lot. MS - Throngs of people line up to enter the new ball park stadium. CUS - People filing in single file handing in their tickets. MS - The back side's of people taking the escalator up to their designated floors. Camera is stationed in the middle of the playing field, panning the people filling the seats. MCUS - Casey Stengel with musical baton in hand leading Guy Lombardo's orchestra. CUS - Baseball fans. MS - The New York Mets and Pittsburgh playing ball, the first game played in their new stadium.
Europe's highest active volcano asserts itself once more. Mt. Etna in Sicily is shaken by violent explosions that hurl tons of rock and lava in the worst eruption of Etna in 50 years. Sicily, Italy A very formidable Mount Etna, spewing smoke, fire and ash. Looking into the crater - You see nothing but smoke and most likely molten lava. MCUS - Stream of molten lava running down the side of Mount Etna, and it's moving at a pretty good amount of speed. LS - Clouds surrounding Mount Etna, and Etna is spewing smoke, and spitting out molten rock and lava.
Mrs. Jerrie Mock is back in Columbus, Ohio ready to rest on some fancy records she rolled up circling the earth in 29 days. Flying more than 22,000 miles. The housewife -- a bit tired but happy is greeted wildly upon her return. United States Mrs. Jerrie Mock posing with her plane at an air port in Oakland, California. CUS - Two Photographers snapping pictures of Mrs Mock. CUS - Mrs. Jerrie Mock sitting at the controls of her plane, the Spirit of Oakland. MS - Jerrie Mock sitting at the controls of her plane makes her way down to the run-way, and off she go's, heading for Columbus, Ohio. CUS - She lands in Columbus and receives a harty greeting plus she is given an award for her achivements.
In Paris they uncork (the word is used advisedly) the music of the future. A symphony of steel sheets and glass tubes! -- a combo strange enough to set music back to the days of the cavemen. Pass out those ear plugs. Paris, France A young guy pushing a key board down the street's of Paris, France. CUS - A musician hitting medal tubes with drum sticks on to sheets of sheet medal. CUS - Musician's hands going up and down glass tubes. MCUS - A musician playing a key board that is hooked up to triangle sheets of medal. MS - An medal pipe sculpture, with medal hands welded on the ends, with round (radar type disk) welded on. To make this more interesting they have girls / women dressed up in black tights that run up to the hand's on the sculpture, take off the disk and do a dance.
Australia is getting into the act --- we mean the rocket race. On a one-man scale. At Sydney they display the Down-Under version of the troop-carrying solo rocket. In 17 seconds it carries a pilot 120 yards! Sydney, Australia Australia is getting into the rocket race on a one man scale. The pilot walks over and get himself strapped in a jet pack. MS - He presses the button on the Pogo Stick and in a blink of an eye, he is lifted high and in 17 seconds he travels 120 yards. The camera man runs the film in reverse and puts the pilot right back where he came from
Thinking of taking off for Europe or South America??? Take a leaf from the travel plans of these gals. They pack the new stretch fabrics that help them get through schedules without a worry or a wrinkle. Nothing but miles of smiles ahead. Caracas, Venezuela Models are disembarking from a Pan American passenger jet plane wearing new fabric blends in their clothing. CUS - Copy of a fisherman's jacket with a skirt that is slightly flared. CUS - This traveling suit looks like it could be a navy blue made of poplin, it has a blazer jacket and a slim straight skirt, accented with a purse that could fit in with today's fashion market (not bad for 43 years ago) CUS - This model has three coordinated pieces. The sleeveless vest buttons up the front and tops a straight skirt. Underneath a pass port print blouse (France stamped on it) with long sleeves. MCUS - The models walk out on to a balcony overlooking Caracas, Venezuela's beautiful landscape. CUS - Model wearing short sleeve button down shift dress, maybe done up in a dark pink color. CUS - Tan, V-neck sleeveless shift, dress.
(11:16:28) Hearings coverage resumes: Mr. Altman has denied tasking her, and that is one of the issues we are going to have to face-decide, as to who is telling the truth in that circumstance. That is why I asked the question, Now let us go to this first meeting, the one, Ms. Williams, where you were not quite sure why you were there, but you were asked to be there so you went there. I understand that that happens a lot, that people say we are having a meeting and you need to be there, and you have a very busy schedule and so you say, OK, I'll go, and pretty much find out what it is all about when I get there and not give it a whole lot of thought beforehand, 306 Is that a fair characterization of your attitude toward that first meeting? Ms. WILLIAMS. I did not know beforehand what the meeting was about, but I have to tell you I do not think it an unusual thing for me to be a participant in meetings at the White House. Senator BENNETT. No, I am not suggesting in any sense that it was unusual. Ms. WILLIAMS. OK. Senator BENNETT. When I say you did not know why you were there, it was not that it was unusual for you to be at a meeting that high powered, it was that you were not sure what the topic was going to be Ms. WILLIAMS. That is correct. Senator BENNETT [continuing]. And the impetus. Ms. WILLIAMS. Yes, Senator. Senator BENNETT. In your deposition you used the phrase you "tuned out" of the meeting after the discussion of the recusal thing was started, and you referred to that in your testimony here today saying that you "went on to other things and started thinking about your next issue because you felt this one had been dealt with, and you say you do that from time to time. That is a great talent, by the way, that I think a lot of people would like to cultivate. But just to be sure the record is completely clear and a Rush Limbaugh or somebody does not try to mousetrap you later on, I would refer to your comment in the deposition that Mr. Nussbaum made some kind of dismissive comment to you which, according to you, and I am quoting from your deposition, "was because I was a woman." Do you remember that? Or do you want to clarify that in any way? I do not want to make a big thing about it, but I do want to get the record very clear as to your tuning out. Ms. WILLIAMS. Of course I do not want to clarify that, but I will since you asked me. [Laughter.] What I referred to in my deposition was that I understood a couple of things in the meeting. One, that was informational. I felt I had gotten the information I wanted. The other, because I am a person given to strong opinions and given to speaking them, after I had heard Mr. Altman say said that he would accept the staff recommendation I spoke up and I said 'Well, then why would you recuse yourself if you are going to go along with what the staff says, and that seems appropriate? And after I finished, I guess I thought that there would be much more conversation around what I had said, since I thought it was an interesting comment. And Mr. Nussbaum said, and I thoughtI took it a little bit dismissively-he said, "It'll be Roger Altman's decision, whatever." And I thought, you know, once again I am the only woman in the room. I have made a very interesting comment, I believe, and Mr. Nussbaum has said, "It is Roger's decision, anyway." Senator BENNETT. OK. Fine. Thank you. I think that clarification helps because it makes it less of an issue than it might be with someone who did not have that. 307 Let's go to the next meeting, then, where Mr. Altman called you and said, "Will you get some people together" and you got some people together.
(11:20:35) From your deposition, you said it was 5 minutes. Stick with the 5 minutes, because that is closer to the 10 seconds, and that helps us narrow it, I am willing to stipulate, from all the conversation, that it was 5 minutes or less. That does not concern me. What concerns me is not the briefness of the meeting but the, if I may use the phrase, the high octane of the meeting. You have got yourself, you have got Mr. Ickes, you have got Mr. Stephanopoulos, and you have got someone from the White House Counsel. You do not convene a meeting with that level of people unless either the person asking for the meeting has a lot of octane connected with him or her, or the subject is a subject of intense interest, no matter how long the meeting lasts. Busy people like yourself and Mr. Ickes and Mr. Stephanopoulos and a member of the White House Counsel's Office do not come together casually. You all, as Mr. McLarty has so eloquently stated, had lots of other important things to do. So Mr. Altman is passing through. He has an important appointment on the Hill. He gives his report very quickly and then moves on to his meeting, and you do not even have time to sit down. Somebody, either Mr. Altman or you as the one who assembled the group, felt it was very important to get the message to the White House that Roger Altman had changed his mind, Now do you think that somebody was likely to be Mr. Altman? That he felt it was very important to get that message out? Or did YOU, as the one who convened the meeting, feel it was very important to get that message to the White House? MS. WILLIAMS. Sir, I do not know what it was Mr. Altman was thinking at the time that he called me and asked me to assemble some people. I do know that I did not place him coming to the White House to say this very high on my chart. I must confess that I did not think about it in a very engaged way, other than the fact that Mr. Altman had asked me to gather a few people and I did it, Senator BENNETT. Thank you. My time is gone. But if I might just summarize my reaction, it seems to me that it was far more important to Mr. Altman that the group be gathered to hear his decision than it was to the people in the group that they were looking forward to hear his decision. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you, Senator Bennett, Senator Shelby. OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR SHELBY Senator SHELBY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mrs. Williams, I want to again go back to the scrap book, or the diary, or whatever-I think Mr. Altman called it a scrap book but it looks like a diary to me- -that you are very familiar with. We are all familiar with it, and that you have been asked about. 308 This has caught my attention and a lot of the other people's. It says that on 1-11-94, the entry, "on Whitewater Maggie told me that HRC" that is Hillary Rodham Clinton "was 'paralyzed' " that was a descriptive word "paralyzed by it. If we don't solve this within the next two days, you don't have to worry about her schedule on Health Care." And then down a little further: "HRC" Hillary Rodham Clinton, "doesn't want the Counsel poking into 20 years of public life in Arkansas." Let's go back to the word "paralyzed." That is a strong word. It is descriptive. You have known Roger Altman how long? MS. WILLIAMS. When I came to the White House in January of 1994. 1 don't remember meeting Roger right away, and maybe in February or March of-- I'm sorry, of 1993, excuse me.
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