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ON PREVIEW CASSETTE #98854 - 00.00.17 - 00.07.40 (slightly better quality transfer on preview cassette #991871 - 00.02.24 - 00.09.55)) Building entrance- people. Woman in red suit who appears throughout footage. Double Decker buses. Walking amidst pigeons. Crowded streets. People window shopping. "Wright Shoes" storefront. Pan Down Empire State Building. Rockefeller Plaza/ Rockefeller Center. Chrysler Building. Night shots - hotels and theater. Broadway sign lit up.
ON PREVIEW CASSETTE #991525 New York theatre district - night
The Sleek Ones: Auto Show Unveils What's To Come
Practically anything that has a motor and wheels is on display at the International Automobile Show. Something for everyone no matter the size of pocketbook. Customized cars star. A famous limousine is missing, the one made for the Munster s. It's on a nation-wide tour. Detroit, Michigan The North American Automobile Show (previously called the Detroit Auto Show and often abbreviated NAIAS) is an annual automobile show (or auto show) starts out with a High-Angle Shot of the throngs looking at different makes of cars. This looks like a Plaid Corvette with a blower on its hood. A female model sitting and petting a leopard sitting on the top, of the back of the seat in a convertible. People walking around and Landrover. High-Angle Shot - Austin Cooper's cars. Marine Officer looking at a car that was showcased in a movie. It has guns and switches and buttons, the license plates turn over and a gun barrel comes out of a running light. A famous car of the thirties, 'the Cord"
Whitewater Hearings August 1, 1994 - Part 1
(11:55:46) Mr. ROELLE. No, sir. Senator SHELBY. Not at any time? Mr. ROELLE. No, sir. Senator SHELBY. Were you aware of this conversation you just heard related? Mr. ROELLE. No, sir. I had left the RTC at the end of December and reported back to the FDIC. Senator SHELBY. When you went over each of the nine criminal :referrals with Mrs. Hanson, who was the General Counsel at Treasury, did you go over them in detail? 26 Mr. ROELLE. I went over about a sentence on each one. I had been given an oral set of general statements about each of the criminal referrals. It was followed up by a fax that I got later, I believe the same day, with a one-sentence explanation of each of the criminal referrals. That is what I bad been read over the telephone, and I briefed Ms. Hanson just on the basis of what I had been read over the telephone. Senator SHELBY. Did you tell her this information was confidential and should not be shared, or was that understood? Mr. ROELLE. I didn't use those words. I used the same words I previously stated. I said that I do not believe it should be discussed with anyone, that it should be kept quiet, that this is not something-it is only for Mr. Altman and it is only an advisory to Mr. Altman. I did not admonish, in any way, or say, don't talk to any specific person. It was a general statement that these should be kept quiet. They shouldn't be discussed. Senator SHELBY. Thank you. My time is up. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you. Senator Faircloth. OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR LAUCH FAIRCLOTH Senator FAIRCLOTH. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Roelle, in September 1993, you were the Chief The CHAIRMAN. Senator Faircloth, we're not able to hear you, I don't know if that mike is working properly. Maybe you can just speak a little more loudly into it. Senator FAIRCLOTH. How's that? Mr. Roelle, in September 1993, you were the Chief Financial Officer Senator D'AMATO. YOU might use another mike. The CHAiRmAN. I'm not sure that one's working, Senator Faircloth. We'll get it checked in a minute. Senator FAIRcLOTH. Mr. Roelle-can you hear me now? The CHAIRMAN. Yes. Senator FAIRCLOTH. In September 1993, you were the Chief Financial Officer of the RTC. According to the testimonydou gave in your deposition, at that time you told Roger Altman an Jean Hanson about a criminal referral to the Justice Department that named the Clintons. A criminal referral is nonpublic information, isn't it? Mr. ROELLE. That's correct. Senator FAIRCLOTH. According to your testimony, you told Jean Hanson, and I quote: "We need to make sure these are kept confidential." You also testified, you said, "My advice would be not to tell anyone and that these should be kept confidential, that it was only for Mr. Altman's knowledge and was not for any action to be taken." So you believed that this was nonpublic information, and should be kept confidential. Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir, Senator FAIRCLOTH. You testified in your deposition, that in September 1993, there had been no press inquiries about the criminal referrals that named the Clintons. 27 You also testified there was no indication that a press leak was imminent. Is that correct? Mr. ROELLE. I didn't discuss the imminence of a press leak. I did say, in - the course of that conversation that in all likelihood, the press would get hold of this and it would be leaked because that was the nature of the RTC. But I know of no leak. Senator FAIRCLOTH. You knew of no imminent-you said, or testified there was no indication that a press leak was imminent. Mr. ROELLE. That's correct. Senator FAIRCLOTH. In September 1993, the time that you testified that no press inquiry bad been made about the criminal referrals, and the time when you have testified that there was no indication that a press leak about them was imminent, there was a meeting where the RTC told this nonpublic information to White House officials. Others have testified that the reason they did this was because of an impending press leak. Does the RTC usually brief people named in criminal referrals if they think there's a chance that there may be a press leak? Is this normal procedure?
Whitewater Hearings August 1, 1994 - Part 1
(12:00:50) Mr. ROELLE. No, sir. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Why did we do it this time? Mr. RoELLE. I have no idea sir. Senator FAIRCLOTH. I'm still a little confused. There bad been no press inquiry about this criminal referral that named the Clintons. And there was no evidence of a press leak. By that standard, the RTC could tell anybody anything they want, so long as they say there is a possibility that there may be a press leak. Is that right? Mr. ROELLE. No, sir. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Has there ever been another case where the RTC gave an i.e., heads-up, in criminal referrals because they thought there might be a press 'leak? Mr. ROELLE. No, sir, not that I'm aware of Senator FAIRCLOTH. This was an all-time first, to notify the Clintons? Mr. ROELLE. Pardon me? Senator FAIRcLOTH. This was an all-time first, to notify the White House? Mr. ROELLE. As far as I know, yes, sir. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Ryan, have you heard a report prepared by Mississippi attorney Stanley Huggins, known as either the Huggins report or the Garish report? Mr. RYAN. I believe I've heard of that, yes. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Do you know whether or not the RTC or the OTS has that report? (12:02:20)(End of tape #10056)
Whitewater Hearings August 1, 1994 - Part 2
(12:00:29)(Beginning of tape #10057) Others have testified that the reason they did this was because of an impending press leak. Does the RTC usually brief people named in criminal referrals if they think there's a chance that there may be a press leak? Is this normal procedure? (12:00:50) Mr. ROELLE. No, sir. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Why did we do it this time? Mr. RoELLE. I have no idea sir. Senator FAIRCLOTH. I'm still a little confused. There bad been no press inquiry about this criminal referral that named the Clintons. And there was no evidence of a press leak. By that standard, the RTC could tell anybody anything they want, so long as they say there is a possibility that there may be a press leak. Is that right? Mr. ROELLE. No, sir. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Has there ever been another case where the RTC gave an i.e., heads-up, in criminal referrals because they thought there might be a press 'leak? Mr. ROELLE. No, sir, not that I'm aware of Senator FAIRCLOTH. This was an all-time first, to notify the Clintons? Mr. ROELLE. Pardon me? Senator FAIRcLOTH. This was an all-time first, to notify the White House? Mr. ROELLE. As far as I know, yes, sir. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Ryan, have you heard a report prepared by Mississippi attorney Stanley Huggins, known as either the Huggins report or the Garish report? Mr. RYAN. I believe I've heard of that, yes. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Do you know whether or not the RTC or the OTS has that report? (12:02:20)(End of tape #10056) Mr. RYAN. I believe we do, yes. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Has anyone from the White House or one of the President's personal attorneys contacted you about the report? Mr. RYAN. No, sir. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Has Robert Fiske contacted you about the report? Mr. RYAN, I don't know. We provided a great deal of information Mr. Fiske. I'm not sure whether that particular report was 28 among the information. I think it probably was, but I just don't know. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Could you provide the Committee and us with a copy of that report? Mr. RYAN. I think it goes beyond the scope and might compromise any particular action that the RTC might take. Senator FAIRCLOTH. A report prepared by a Memphis attorney would go beyond the scope of what the Senate is looking at? Mr. RYAN. I believe that report deals with the substantive matters that are under review by Mr. Fiske and by our office with respect to the possibility of bringing an actionable claim. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Have you seen the editorial from this morning's Wall Street Journal, entitled, "Who is Jack Ryan?"? Mr. RYAN. Yes, sir. I read it with a great deal of interest. I was curious myself. [Laughter.] Senator FAIRCLOTH. I thought it might be of interest to you. [Laughter.] Mr. Ryan, that editorial asks some good questions that I'd like to ask you now. Mr. RYAN. Sure. Senator FAIRCLOTH. First, April Briselow, an RTC attorney, said in a tape-recorded phone call to Jean Lewis, an RTC investigator who has been taken off the Madison Guaranty investigation, that you and Ms. Kulka would like to be able to say that Whitewater did not cause a loss to Madison. Ms. Lewis responded that the Whitewater account alone might show losses in excess of $100,000. 1 appreciate the remark you made in your opening statement. You essentially said that, ultimately, you should be judged by what you do, not by what you say. That's hard to argue with. But, specifically, did you ever say anything to anyone along the lines of you would like to be able to say that Whitewater did not cause a loss to Madison, that statement or anything close to it? Mr. RYAN, Senator, I don't recall ever having said anything like that. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Not even close to it? Never alluded to such a thing? Mr. RYAN. Not that I recall, Senator FAIRCLOTH, The editorial-do I have time for one more question? The CHAIRMAN. If it's a follow-up to this and it will be brief. I mean, the light's on, but I don't want to cut you off if you want to finish a point. I'm not going to do that to anybody.
"Native Charger" Wins Florida Derby
"Native Charger" Wins Florida Derby the cream of the 3-year-olds go to the post in the Florida Derby. "Native Charger" stumbles coming out to the gate, but he gains and goes on to cop top money - $80,000 - from the field of 9. It boosts his stock and his chances in the Kentucky Derby as he comes down the wire a neck ahead of "Hail To All". Tampa Bay, Florida Gulfstream Park and throngs come out to see Native Charger. Fans standing at the fence right by the track where the horses will run. Horses at the gate and as the gates open Native Charger stumbles but regains his balance and he's off running the race. Native Charger thundering into the turn. Three ladies and a man cheering for their horses. Horses running on the track making the turn and Native Charger comes up from behind running neck to neck with Demo. The horses are thundering around the curve and Native Charger is pulling a head and Hail to All is right behind him, but he can't catch up. Native Charger charges a head and he is the winner of the race.
President On Vietnam: Offers Peace Talks, Proposes Aid Program
The President projects America's policy on Vietnam in a speech at Johns Hopkins University. Mr. Johnson says the United States is ready to begin, without conditions, diplomatic discussions to end the war in Vietnam. He then states that the United States is ready to start a billion dollar investment to bring economic independence to all of Southeast Asia, including North Vietnam. The speech at Hopkins is regarded as one of the most important on policy-making. Baltimore, Maryland and South Vietnam Lyndon B. Johnson Address at Johns Hopkins University: "Peace Without Conquest." April 7th, 1965. "Since 1954 every American President has offered support to the people of South Vietnam. We have helped to build, and we have helped to defend. Thus, over many years, we have made a national pledge to help South Vietnam defend its independence. And I intend to keep that promise." Male students in the audience. Parents and professors in the audience. LBJ, "Such peace demands an independent South Vietnam - securely guaranteed and able to shape its own relationships to all others, free from outside interference, tied to no alliance, a military base for no other country." Small village in Vietnam with the people wearing coolie hats made of straw, small boats in the river and military presence. A bridge being repaired. A dam providing electicity. LBJ, "For our part I will ask the Congress to join in a billion dollar American investment in this effort as soon as it is underway. And I would hope that all other industrialized countries, including the Soviet Union, will join in this effort to replace despair with hope, and terror with progress." South Vietnam people working in the rice paddies. Doctors giving a physical exam. Medical research. Ladies working in a factory. Vietnam people walking and shopping. Vietnam people carrying heavy loads on their heads and shoulders. LBJ, "We may well be living in the time foretold many years ago when it was said: 'I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live.' ... Well, we will choose life. In so doing we will prevail over the enemies within man, and over the natural enemies of all mankind."
Red Harassment: Delay Berlin Traffic As Planes Buzz City
For the first time since the Red blockade of West Berlin in 1948, access routes to the city are shut down by the Communists. The soviets try to block a meeting of the West German Parliament, but the meeting goes on as Red fighters buzz the meeting hall in violation of dozens of air safety regulations. High-Angle Shot of the Berlin wall with barbed wire and guard station. Cars and people queued up at Check Point Charlie. Traffic at a stand still, police talking with some of the drivers of the cars. German Parliament. LS Audience sitting in their seats applauding. POV Looking up at a Russian MIG buzzing West Germany. MS New photographer taking pictures. POV Looking up at a squadron of Russian MIGs.
Hollywood's Night Of Glamour
It's Hollywood's night to hold the world spotlight...the annual Academy Awards. Coveted Oscars go to "My Fair Lady" and its star Rex Harrison - Best Picture and Best Actor. Best Actress Award is bestowed on Julie Andrews for her role in Disney's "Mary Poppins" - a part she accepted after being by-passed for the movie version lead in "My Fair Lady" in which she created the original Liza Doolittle on the stage and which rolled up theatrical history. Hollywood, California Throngs of movie fans, theatre with marquee "Academy Awards. High-Angle Shot - Interior of the theatre all the Movie Stars seated in their assigned seats. Audience applauding. Audry Hepburn presenting award to Rex Harrison. Rex Harrison approaching the stage. Audience applauding. Sidney Poitier and Johnny Carson (Tonight Show Host). Julie Andrews approaching the stage after her name is called to accept her Academy Award for Mary Poppins.
Rampaging Nature: Mid-West Hard Hit By Spring Disasters
The most devastating series of tornadoes in many decades rip through six mid-Western states. In the wake of the twisters, there are nearly 250 dead. Damages mounting to hundreds of millions. Iowa, Wisconsin, Arkansas, Indiana, Illinois, and Michigan were all hard hit. To the West there was more tragedy as the swollen Mississippi river rose a foot every four hours. At sections along its banks, the famous "Father of Waters" was more than 27 feet at crest, 13 feet above flood stage. 39 counties in Minnesota were declared disaster areas as the flood crest barrels down stream towards St. Paul. The aftermath of a very bad tornado. MS - A woman walking on top of her rubble after a tornado destroyed her home. Another woman standing in the mist of her destroyed house. Camera pans - Rubble, some recognizable furniture but most of it looks like broken up wood and plaster. LS A woman seeing what she can salvage on what's left of her second floor. Crystal Lake, Illinois. Damaged home, half of it is gone exposing what's remaining of a bedroom and the cars that were once parked in a garage. Camera panning damaged cars. One completely laying on its side. Indiana, two ladies looking to see what they can salvage from their dining room. A leveled home with wood, plaster and some broken trees. A squished Volks Wagon. A swollen and turbulent Mississippi River part of the rail road tracks are gone. A flooded area of Minnesota, you can only see the top of the roof on one house. Men packed up a pick up truck with what they could salvage. People filling sand bags including some kids around 11 years old or so. St. Paul, Minnesota - One of the worst flooded areas. Men stacking sand bags. A flooded town, people are really suffering some property damage. A close up shot of a street that has been destroyed because the water got underneath its pavement.
Golf's Whiz Kid: Nicklaus Smashes Par In Winning Masters
With 40,000 spectators - ticket selling stopped. Those lucky enough to get in saw unprecedented golf as Arnold Palmer and Gary Player battled to a second place tie as Jack Nicklaus goes 17 under par for the 72 holes. Jack Nicklaus gives the finest single performance in golf tournament history! Something sensational. Augusta, Georgia There are 40,000 spectators crowded on the Augusta National Golf Club in Augusta, Georgia. Arnold Palmer teeing off. Gary Player teeing off. Jack Nicklaus teeing off. The crowd is hypnotized watching Jack Nicklaus hitting a golf ball. Jack Nicklaus putting with a 5 stroke lead at the end of the third round. In the background the spectators are applauding the performance of Jack. Jack bent over hitting a golf ball. MS Jack chips his golf ball to only 16-inches of the cup. MS Jack Nicklaus putts and makes history. finishing 17 strokes under par, he picks up the golf ball and throws it into the crowd. The crowd suddenly moves trying to get the golf ball. The Green Championship Blazer goes over the shoulders of Jack Nicklaus put on by Arnold Palmer.
August 1, 1994 - Part 2
(12:05:27) Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Ryan, the editorial alleges that you have provided the Minority staff of the House Banking Committee with documents regarding other thrift scandals. But you refused, even before Robert Fiske was named as Special Counsel, to give Representative Leach the same documents about Madison Guaranty. Why would you treat Madison Guaranty documents differently than other thrift documents? 29 Mr. RYAN. I don't believe we have, Senator. It's my understanding that our position has been, and remains, consistent with respect to the provision of information to individual Congressmen. We followed the position that an individual Congressman is entitled to information that is available under the Freedom of Information Act, unless it comes as part of a Committee request. That has been our position. That is the position taken by other Government agencies and that's the position taken by the Department of Justice. We are involved in litigation with the Congressman. Senator FAIRCLOTH. You made no distinction between providing these documents on Madison and any other failed thrift? You gave out just as much information on Madison? Mr. RYAN. We believe that we have been consistent. We are involved now in litigation with Congressman Leach over that very issue. I would submit for the record a copy of our brief in that regard. Senator FAIRCLoTH. The question is, you're negotiating with him now. But back when this first-before Fiske was appointed, did you give information on other failed savings and loans and withhold inFormation on Madison? Mr. RYAN. No, sir. We think we have been consistent in the provision of information, The other information given was in connection with a Committee inquiry. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, The CHAIRMAN. Why don't you go ahead and give us that brief you spoke about and we'll put it in the record. Mr. RYAN. I will. The CHAIRMAN. Just briefly, Senator Sarbanes. Then I want to go to Senator Kerry, Senator SARBANES. You made the suggestion I was going to make, that the Committee should receive for the record the brief that Mr. Ryan and the RTC have filed in that case, which lays out their position as to why they believe they have been consistent in the ding of this information. I = that would be very helpful. The CHAiRmAN. Without objection, we'll make that a part of the record, I Senator Kerry. OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR JOHN F. KERRY Senator KERRY. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, in the 7 minutes that I have, I'm not going to be able to-nor can any of us go through in depth-lay out the full Measure of what I want to try to establish here. But let me clarify a couple of points, if I can, quickly. A number of colleagues have made a point about this information going to the White House being privileged information at that particular moment. In fact, Senator Faircloth just mentioned it. Mr. Katsanos, isn't it a fact that at the very moment this discus$ion was taking place, Mr. Roelle sent a copy of an E-mail message that came from the RTC office, which actually bad reporters' inqueries about the criminal referrals? 30 STATEMENT OF STEPHEN J. KATSANOS, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF CORPORATE COMMUNICATIONS RESOLUTION TRUST CORPORATION, WASHINGTON, DC Mr. KATSANOS. I'm not familiar with Mr. Roelle's E-mail. Senator KERRY. There is-and we can the documents. In fact I'll find it, if you want, and we'll come back to you later on that' But there, in tact, is an E-mail message office. .Fe that came into your We have a copy of it, which is why I had able to say this. It refers: to the inquiry, and it's now a matter of record, that in the early bird publication 2 days later, there was reference to the criminal I referrals. So that's what prompted everybody's notion, uh oh, this is out In the press, Isn't that accurate? Mr. ROELLE. Are you asking me, sir? Senator KERRY. If you can answer it, fine. Mr. RoELLE. The E-mail I think you are referring to was sent to me by Mr. Katsanos. It was forwarded, I believe. It was an E-mail that had been sent from our investigator in Kansas City . there was an Senator KERRY. All I'm trying to establish is that E-mail. Correct? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir. Senator KERRY. And there was a reporter who's already inquiring about the criminal referrals? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir, but that wasn't at the same time that I had briefed. It was after. But I don't remember exactly when. Senator KERRY. Correct. This was on September 27, 1993. Senator D'AMATO. The E-mail ' I think ' was on October 6, 1993. Senator KERRY. The E-mail--September 30, 1993, was the date of the early bird, September 27, 1993, right around that time.
Firewalk with Lee
"Chinese religious pilgrims gather in Malaysia for their annual fire-walking ceremony. It's an 85-year-old custom and the giant hot-foot attract pain-defying mediums and penitents." TLS main gate of the Temple of the Nine Emperor Gods, pilgrims passing through. MSs Chinese pilgrims placing incense sticks in a massive brass pot, pray with clasped hands. TLS laborers raking large pile of smoldering hot coals with long rakes. Sideview MS shirtless Chinese pilgrim waving small flag, holding machete. MS men carrying a Sudan Chair. TLS mediums carrying sudan chair across hot coals. MS penitents walking or running across hot coals.
Race
"Fort Marcy" noses out top money-winner, "Damascus" to win the "Washington, D.C. International", making it a one-one finish for U.S. horses in an international field of starters. Horses break from their gates. One horse takes to the lead. A crowd shot. Horses run past in a broken line. Close-up of fans. The horses make a turn, and the leader crosses the finish line a head in front of the next.
Sato - LBJ
While hundreds of demonstrating left-wing students are arrested and injured in Tokyo, Prime Minister Sato depart for Washington. After talks with President Johnson, it's agreed the Bonin Islands will be returned to Japan while the Ryukyu group, including Okinawa, will be retained. A black screen reads, "Japanese Premier - U.S. Agrees to Return Islands." Japanese protesters march through a street. Student locks arms and sway. Riot police watch close-by. A motorcade drives onto an airport runway. A helicopter hovers in the air. Pro-Japanese protesters wave flags from a plane terminal. The White House lawn has soldiers standing in formation. President Johnson and First Lady Johnson greet the visiting Japanese Prime Minister and his wife at their car.
August 1, 1994 - Part 2
(12:10:25) Mr, KATSANOS. If I recall the early bird you're referring to and the E-mail, the E-mail was in October and de September 30, 19939 early bird did not refer to that particular E-mail. It preceded it. Senator KERRY. That's accurate. No, it just referred to the reporters inquiries. That's all I'm saying. Mr. KATSANOS. That's correct. Senator KERRY. Right. That's all I'm trying to establish. It's in the public domain, is my point. I'm not diminishing the fact that the information went. That is of serious concern. I want to make it very clear. There are two parts that I see here. One is of great concern to all of us on the Committee, and that is what Mr. Altman and Ms. Hanson did with information and what the impact was on you. I clearly want to pursue that line of questioning. But, before I do, Senator Faircloth had an exchange with you suggesting that this is the first time ever that information has gone to the White House. Let me ask you, Mr. Roelle, while you were Vice President at the RTC in 1992 and 1993, was there any other criminal referral besides the Madison that you were told about? Mr. ROELLE. In 1992? Senator KERRY, Correct. Mr. ROELLE. Besides Madison? Senator KERRY. That's correct. Mr. RoELLE. No. 31 Senator KERRY. So this is the only referral that you were informed of in your capacity as Vice President. Correct? Mr. ROELLE. In 1992, yes, Senator KERRY. Correct. And there are hundreds of criminal referrals sent by the RTC to the Department of Justice, are there not? Mr. ROELLE. That's correct, sir. Senator KERRY, But only this one was singled out and told to you. Correct? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir. Senator FERRY. And this one happened to involve the Clintons in some respect, which we're not going into in great detail. Correct? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir. Senator KERRY. That happened while President Bush was still in office. Isn't that accurate? Mr. ROELLE. That's right. Senator KERRY. In fact, it was during the campaign, was it not? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir. Senator KERRY. So, even during the Bush Administration, this case was treated differently from other cases, was it not? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir. Senator KERRY. With respect to that, when did you first learn there was a criminal referral pertaining to Madison Guaranty at the RTC? Mr. ROELLE. I believe it was in September 1992. Senator KERRY. About 6 weeks before the election. Correct? Mr. ROELLE. Approximately, yes, sir. Senator KERRY. Who told you about this referral? Mr. ROELLE. Mr. Dudeny. Senator KERRY. Why did he tell you? Mr. ROELLE. He came to me and said, 'This is a criminal referral we ire processing and I think you should know about it because it mentions the President, or a person that's running for the Presidency." Senator KERRY. It mentions a Presidential candidate? Mr. ROELLE. Right, Presidential candidate. Senator KERRY. It does not mention the President. Correct? Mr. ROELLE. That's correct. Senator KERRY. Did you inform anybody else? Mr. RoELLE. I did. Senator KERRY, You informed Mr. Albert Casey. Correct? Mr. ROELLE. That's correct. Senator KERRY. Who is Mr. Albert Casey? Mr. RoELLE. He was the CEO of the RTC. Senator KERRY. He was the CEO of the RTC under President Bush? Mr. ROELLE. That's correct. Senator KERRY. Did Albert Casey tell you that he would tell Someone about the criminal referral? Mr. RoELLE. He said that lie felt he needed to tell the oversight board. Senator KERRY. Who sits on the oversight board? Mt. ROELLE. The Secretary of the Treasury is the Chairman. Senator KERRY. That would have been Mr, Nick Brady. Correct? 32 Mr. ROELLE. That's correct. Senator KERRY. And who else? Mr. ROELLE. The Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. The Chairman of the FDIC. Senator KERRY. Did President Bush's Counsel, C. Boyden Gray, sit on the board? Mr. ROELLE. No, sir. Senator KERRY. So there would have been no reason for him to have learned it by virtue of the referral of Albert Casey. Correct? Mr. ROELLE. No, sir. Senator KERRY. But did you learn later that C. Boyden Gray had learned something about the criminal referral? Mr. RoELLE. Yes. Senator KERRY. Would you describe what you learned? Mr. ROELLE, Yes, sir. I don't know when it was in relation to when I briefed Mr. Casey, but I was later told by Mr. Casey that he had had a phone call from the White House asking about the criminal referral. I indicated to Mr. Casey that it would be inappropriate to discuss it with the White House. Mr. Casey said, "OK I'll tell him that." We had a fairly long discussion about it. I told him that I thought the appropriate answer would be it is now in the hands of the Justice Department and it's not something that can be discussed. As far as I know, Mr. Casey said he would express that view and I was told that he did express that view. Senator KERRY. Did it disturb you that C. Boyden Gray, at the White House, had somehow learned of the criminal referral? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir. Senator KERRY. So your answer to Senator Faircloth was not, in fact, purely accurate. This is not the first time the White House has learned about it, is it? Mr. ROELLE. No. I think it was accurate, sir. He asked me, " Is this the first time that the RTC had briefed the White House?" And I said ' "To my knowledge, it is the first time. We did not brief the White House. )) Senator KERRY. But you had, in your discussion with Mr. Gray, you discussed Mr. ROELLE. I did not discuss anything with Mr. Gray. Senator KERRY, I understand. But the discussion that took place was a discussion with respect to the appropriateness or inappropriateness of their learning more. Correct? Mr. ROELLE. Absolutely.
New Fire Extinguisher
"The Navy's answer to recent tragic fires aboard aircraft carriers: Purple K. It's a new liquid-extinguisher which douses 150 gallons of flaming fuel spread over 600 feet, using just one man and 25 seconds." TLS man igniting pool of gas; black smoke and flames rise quickly. MS firefighter approaches with a Purple K firehose, squelching fire. TLS firefighter putting fire out completely.
Venus Probe
"Mariner 5, our Venus probe space-vehicle, sweeps by the planet and sends back data differing from Soviet findings. Future data will check out radioactivity and whether man can land safely on Venus." TLS scientists sitting in chairs at Jet Propulsion Laboratory briefing. Various shots of a Mariner 5 space probe model. MS/MCUs miniature Mariner 5 model on probe course around Venus; it shakes and sputters as it negotiates along a representation of one of planet's orbits.
August 1, 1994 - Part 2
(12:15:41) Senator KERRY. OK Now, obviously, my time is up, I want to develop this a little more. Mr. Chairman, the reason this is important, we learned just a little bit later of the Republican U.S. Attorney in Little Rock who gets a criminal referral and who is under some pressure to rush the indictment process. There are letters that have been made public, and articles with respect to this, and I will come back to it. I want to come back, obviously, with a series of questions to the RTC and Mr. Altman. The CHAIRMAN. Very good. Senator Bennett. 33 OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR ROBERT F. BENNETT Senator BENNETT. Thank you, Can I find a mike that works somewhere? Is this now on? 61, OF, Good. The gremlins have left us. This is now working. Mr. Katsanos, you're the only one of this panel that has institutional memory. You go all the way back to the beginning of the RTC. Mr. Roelle has some, but he's gone, and you're the one that bridges the whole thing so if I may, I had going to make you the star for a little while. Mr. KATSANos. Thank you, sir. The CHAIRMAN. I'm going to have you speak a little louder, Senator Bennett. I'm not sure that microphone is working properly. Senator BENNETT. This is as close as I can get without chewing it, The CHAiRMAN. Yes, that's fine. Senator BENNETT. Mr. Katsanos, I'm going to quote from your deposition. Let me make it clear, I am pursuing the issue of the independence of the RTC . That's what I talked about in my opening. statement * had concern is that this Administration has tried to politicize the RTC and destroy its independence and that's the direction in which I'm going here. You say in your deposition: I was told to coordinate my activities with the Treasury Department press office and when Roger Altman was installed, the practice was to consult with them on significant stories, In some cases, they would give me instructions on what they felt I should say in response to press inquiries. They, in effect, viewed us as an arm of the Treasury Department. Do you stand by that? Mr. KATSANOS. Yes, I do, sir. Senator BENNETT. You say on page 115-tbat was page 79 of your deposition-page 115, you say: , The final step was taken that really eliminated any concept of independence, and that was when they permitted the Treasury Department to assume direct control of the RTC. Question: In your view, did that under-mine the political independence of the RTC as it was intended to be constituted? Answer: The RTC was certainly much more political, and there were activities undertaken that were of much more concern to the career staff than there had ever been before. Is that still your position? Mr. KATSANOS. Yes, sir. Senator BENNETT. When you say "than there had ever been before," are you referring to the previous Administration? Mr. KATSANOS. That's correct, sir. Senator BENNETT. Thank you. You go on to say in your deposition "Neither Joan Logue-Kinder"-am I pronouncing that correctly? Mr. KATSANos. I believe so. Senator BENNETT. "Neither Joan Logue-Kinder or Jean Hanson had any official position at the RTC; correct?" You answer: That's correct. Question: Their involvement came strictly through Treasury and somehow related to Mr. Altman's appointment as CEO? Answer; That's correct. Question: Was that on an official basis? Answer: No, it was by virtue of they are staffing the CEO, the Interim CEO. She, in effect, was running )& legal department. 34 Question: What period of time was Jean Hanson running the legal department at RTC? Answer: It became her responsibility from the time that she started over at the Treasury Department, Do you still have that view? Mr. KATsANos. Yes, sir, Senator BENNETT. There have been references to Early Birds, Will you tell us what an Early Bird is, for the record? Mr. KATsANos. The Early Bird -is a daily publication, a news bulletin in a sense, that had office puts together at the end of each day. It summarizes stories that we anticipate could appear the next day or the next week, sometime in the future. Senator BENNETT. So, it's an internal publication that's for senior officials only. Mr. KATSANOS. That is correct. Senator BENNETT. Because of a call from Susan Schmidt of The Washington Post in late September or early October, I understand that the Early Bird publication noted that The Washington Post was interested in these matters. Do I have that basically correct? Mr. KATSANOS. Essentially, sir.
Test Radical Plane: Craft Combines Rotor And Prop
The search for a stable, economical, small aircraft is taking off in a new direction. A group of Canadian designers have come up with this rotary-wing craft that combines a conventional engine with free-spinning rotors. Supposedly 100% foolproof, it has economy as its co-pilot -- 15 cents a mile, including insurance and depreciation. This is one strange looking helicopter or plane. The radical plane is taxiing on to the small runway and has a perfect take off. MS - Pilot demonstrates the dexterity of the aircraft.