Virgil, Crazy Horse 16:00:31 WS plain, tree in foreground 16:01:44 CU of Native American Virgil 16:02:00 Interview begins, Virgil talks about Crazy Horse, Virgil admires him, talks about Crazy Horse's fame, that his grandfather used to ride with him, Crazy Horse was very quiet and reserved, brave and courageous. At young age, CH had vision in dream, received his feathers. V explains traditional Native American meanings of stones and feathers. Elaborates on importance of the Black Hills (=center of universe, says that quantumphysics measured the sacredness of the Balck Hills). On CH's vision: you see both physical and metaphysical world and what is sacred. V ends interview rather abruptly, he seems aggravated and irritated. 16:07:37 landscape shot, pan across prairie, several takes 16:09:54 section ends BREAK IN TBC 17:00:30 beautiful landscape, very intense, bright light between thick layer of black clouds and hills, steppe, tree 17:01:45 steppe with mountain range in background, cloudy sky, looks like rain 17:02:15 interview with an elderly Native American woman about her tribe, the Chiricahua Apaches (in New Mexico and Arizona) before they went into reservations, she is sad and has a hard time talking about her tribe's destiny, talks very slowly, talks about the hard life Native Americans are leading, her great-grandfather was Chief Victorio, talks about how Native Americans were killed off. At 17:13:20 Interviewer asks her about Geronimo (medicine man), she refuses to give much information regarding his remedies and rituals because it is the tribe's secret. Her stories about her tribe's surrender are very disjointed.