July 20, 1995 - Part 4
July 20, 1995 - Part 4
(13:00:36) Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. In any event, 30 minutes after you made that request, the office was locked. By the next morning at 10 a.m., there was a guard posted. By 11 a.m. the next day, the next morning, July 21, 1993, the day after, there was a locksmith brought in and the locks were changed. The Secret Service record has it? Yeah, yeah, so we can go through-these were not things you were party to. I'm not suggesting you were, but I'm trying to get to the sense of the timing of all of this. In hindsight, it seems like all of this was drawn out over a long period of time, but really what we're talking about were conversations that happened in a narrow window of time and that may have zipped by in ways that may not have been-that may not now seem to be all that evident. But the Secret Service record does show at 11:41 that the office was secured. Again, I said I was going to be brief, so I'm going to try to ask one other little question, and that's of you, Mr. Hines. In your report-I'm going to read a sentence to you that comes out of your report that was-this is a supplemental criminal incident report, a record that was done the day after. It doesn't say on here when it was written. It just says the day of the incident. In any event, what you said here was, "Originally, we had responded to the White House on Wednesday morning, July 21, to examine his office." This is yours; right? This says Investigator Hines." This could not be his. I don't know, based on what I see here. Is that Mr. Hines? Oh, it's Captain Hume. Mr. Hines, I take it back . This is not you. It's Captain Hume, so I guess I'll have to ask the question of him. I was going to ask the question what did he mean 203 by 44 originally, we responded to the White House on Wednesday morning," because it sounds like there were efforts made to try to lock things down. I don't have any further questions, except to say that based on everything I've heard, I have a sense that you guys did everything you could do under the circumstances at the time. With the benefit of hindsight, do you think at the time, based on your knowledge at the time, how you saw things when these things were going on, do you feel that you did what you thought was the right thing to do, the proper thing to do, the police personnel thing to do at the time that this incident occurred? Ms. BRAUN. Yes, we did what we had to do. Mr. ROLLA. Yes, I believe so. Mr. HINES. Yes. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. Thank you very much. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Sarbanes. Mr. ROLLA. Excuse me, Mr. Chairman. Can we take a 5-minute break? The CHAIRMAN, I believe we're very close to wrapping up, and I want to keep it going. If you wish to be excused for 5 minutes yourself, certainly, you may do so, and if anybody wants to ask you questions, we'll come back to you. OK? ( Mr. ROLLA. Thank you. Senator SARBANES. Senator Simon.