July 19, 1995 - Part 3
July 19, 1995 - Part 3
(13:00:28) Mr. HUBBELL, That's correct. Senator KERRY. You made the inquiry of whom? Do you remember who, specifically, you asked? Mr, HUBBELL. I do not. I believe there were it was the male Park Policeman. Senator KERRY, What prompted you to ask if you could make the notification? 135 Mr. HUBBELL. I just-human reaction that you'd want-if-I would think Lisa would want to hear it from me. Senator KERRY. What specifically was the response to you? Mr, HUBBELL. To the best of my recollection, it was something like this is their job and they must do it. Senator KERRY. Did you question that? Mr. HUBBELL No, I did not. I understood. Senator KERRY. But you watched from that location while that notification took place. Mr. HUBBELL. That's correct. Senator KERRY. When did the issue of his office and the question of law enforcement interest in the office first occur to you? Mr. HUBBELL. I don't believe I ever had it occur to me of law enforcement interest in the office. I was concerned, as I said, that it be locked so that nothing was taken out like the trash. I didn't have a law enforcement hat on, and I wasn't thinking that this was any kind of a crime scene or thing of that sort. It was just lock the office and make sure we don't throw something away that might give us some insight into Vince's state of mind. Senator KERRY. The next morning, the first thing you did was execute some personal steps to follow up on that concern; is that accurate? Mr. HUBBELL. That's correct. I called Bill Burton to make sure that it had been done because I didn't, I still don't recall saying to Mack or David to do that that night. Others do, but I know I woke up in the middle of the night worrying about it, so the first thing I did was to call Bill the next morning, and he said Mack had already done it, Senator KERRY. In the course of the evening preceding, in the course of the night or in the early morning prior to calling to have the office locked, you had no discussions with anybody about any files; is that correct? Mr. HUBBELL. The subject of files never came up. Senator KERRY. I yield my time to the counsel. Senator SARBANES. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. The CHAIRMAN. Certainly. Senator Moseley-Braun. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. I just have one little question, and this is just for clarity in the record. To your knowledge, Mr. Hubbell, was the FBI ever denied their request for access to Vince Foster's office? Mr. HUBBELL. I'm not aware of that, no. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. So you're not aware of anybody saying " stay out" to the FBI? Mr. HUBBELL. No, I'm not. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. Thank you. Senator SARBANES. Mr. Chairman, I think we've completed the questioning. The CHAIRMAN. I think counsel has several questions, and then we can wrap it up. Mr. Chertoff, Mr. CHERTOFF. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In your discussions with Mr. Heymann after you got back from Little Rock, in which he indicated to you that there had been an understanding or an agreement between the Department of Justice 136 and Mr. Nussbaum which had then been changed, was it your uriderstanding that the change was one that Mr. Nussbaum made? Mr. HUBBELL. That is my understanding, yes. Mr. CHERTOFF. It was not a mutually agreed-upon change? Mr. HUBBELL. That's My understanding Mr. CHERTOFF. You were also asked a series of questions by Mr. Ben-Veniste, who read from a deposition of Roger Adams, who is a Department of Justice lawyer. You knew Mr. Adams; correct? Mr. HUBBELL. I did. Not for long, but I did know him, yes. Mr. CHERTOFF. I want to make sure there is no misimpression. You're not telling us that Mr. Adams offered an opinion about the propriety of anything that was done in the White House concerning Counsel's Office work on personal documents, are you? Mr. HUBBELL. I'm not aware one way or the other. Mr. CHERTOFF. You have no knowledge that Mr. Adams was ever asked to render an opinion about whether it was proper for White House Counsel to work on any personal Presidential documents; correct? Mr. HUBBELL. No, I'm almost sure he was not. Mr. CHERTOFF. In fact, are you aware that Mr. Adams was one of the two Justice Department lawyers sent by the Deputy Attorney General to the White House on Thursday, July 22, 1993? Mr. HUBBELL. Phil told me who went when I returned from Little Rock. Mr, CHERTOFF. Was it your knowledge that Mr. Adams was one of the two lawyers that Mr. Heymann expected would be reviewing the documents initially to determine relevance and privilege?