July 19, 1995 - Part 2
July 19, 1995 - Part 2
(11:50:44) Senator MURRAY. How did you feel when they began to ask her questions? This is a woman who obviously had just learned of her husband's suicide. How did that make you feel? Mr. HUBBELL. I guess, I guess you understand it, but it is very invasive at that time. I think you don't resent it, but you just, it sure seems like a hard thing to do, especially in this case it wasthey were saying it was a suicide. I would have hoped they could, if they needed to ask her questions, they could do it at a different time. But they did, and nobody got angry with them or anything like that, but it was just-you'd like to share your grief only with the people you are close to at that time, Senator MURRAY. I would assume that there's a feeling of protecting somebody from having to live through questioning at that time. They've already received enough Mr. HUBBELL. Yes, there is, and you are also--we were, I think, naturally concerned about Lisa's state of mind and her health in such a traumatic time. We were trying to get a doctor to come and help her. Senator MURRAY. Are you aware of allegations that you pushed Cheryl Braun out of the way in the Foster home? Mr. HUBBELL. I found out about them when I watched the hearings last year. That was the first time I'd ever heard that. Senator MURRAY. Mr. Chairman, for the record, at this point 1 would like to submit a question I asked Cheryl Braun last year during these hearings, and her answer. It specifically is: Question: So, from your perspective, do you feel that anyone was trying to obstruct you in trying to get information that night? Answer: No, I would not say they were. I would like that on the record at this time and I would yield the rest of my time to counsel. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Thank you, Senator Murray. Mr. Hubbell, I'd like to turn back to some questions that Senator Hatch addressed to you with respect to issues of whether White House Counsel may, under certain circumstances, act either as per- sonal attorney or have in its possession the personal, financial or I other records of the President of the United States. In this regard, let me ask you if you can tell us who Roger Adams was in July 1993? Mr. HUBBELL. Roger Adams, I believe, was a Deputy in the Criminal Division at the Justice Department and I think, by that time, had been detailed to be on the staff of Phil Heymann, the Deputy Attorney General. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Did you know that Mr. Adams was one of the two Justice Department high-ranking individuals who were present during the search of Mr. Foster's office on July 22, 1993? Mr. HUBBELL. I think I learned that when I returned to Washington from Little Rock. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. Did you know, sir, that Mr. Adams' responsibility at the Justice Department, among others, was to give ethics advice to lawyers in the Criminal Division at the Department of ,Justice? Mr. HUBBELL. I was not aware of that. Mr. BEN-VENISTE. That is contained in his deposition at page 14, Mr. Chairman. 116 Now, let me read, if I might, from Mr. Adams' deposition and see. whether you agree with this position. At page 194 Mr. Adams says: I might say that it doesnt surprise me a bit. There's a thin line between public business and private business. It does not offend me at all that the Counsel or Dep- uty Counsel to the President does work on some personal things of the President and First Lady. And then during the search, obviously, Bernie Nussbaum said that these are certain things that Vince Foster has been working on for the Presidentand the First Lady.