July 19, 1995 - Part 2
July 19, 1995 - Part 2
(11:45:35) Mr. HUBBELL. It would be pure speculation, since she was David's Chief Deputy, that David may have called and said would you go look and see if there's a note on top of his desk. I don't know if that occurred. I don't have any idea, but I would think that she would be the one that David would call if David was going to give her any instruction, but I don't know what David did. Senator BENNETT. So she was a member of the White House staff at this time? Mr. HUBBELL. Oh, yes. I believe she was David's Chief Assistant. Senator BENNETT. We will undoubtedly-we're going to have her there and we'll ask her that status, but I was hoping with your acquaintance with her during the campaign, you could shed some light on who she is. Mr. HUBBELL. Very smart lady. Senator BENNETT. All right. I'll accept that, but you haven't real- helped very much to help us understand why she would be there and why the White House Counsel would accept her presence there as a clear matter of course not even to be questioned. Mr. HUBBELL. I really can't help you. I'm sorry, Senator. Senator BENNETT. I see. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll yield. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Faircloth, Senator Bennett is yielding some of his time to you. You may start your line of questioning, and then we'll move on. OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR LAUCH FAIRCLOTH Senator FAIRCLOTH. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Hubbell, when you left the Justice Department, you went to work for Michael Cardoza, a Washington attorney. Is this the same Michael Cardoza that's also the principal attorney in charge of raise money for President Clinton's legal defense fund set up to de 114 fend himself from allegations of wrongdoing in the Whitewater. scandal? Mr. HUBBELL. Senator, I don't mean to split hairs with you, but I didn't work for Michael, Michael lent me an office after I left the, ,Justice Department. Michael is, I believe, one of the trustees of the Clinton Defense Fund, but--I'm not trying to split hairs, but I didn't work for G. William Miller & Company. They lent me an office Senator FAIRCLOTH. So you did not raise money for President:, Clinton's legal defense fund. Mr. HUBBELL. No, I did not. Senator FAIRCLOTH. On the weekend before Mr, Foster died, did you go and stay with Michael Cardoza on the Eastern Shore of Maryland? Mr. HUBBELL. Yes, I did. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Was this trip planned several months in ad- or is it something that came up at the spur of the moment? Mr. HUBBELL. Michael and his wife Carolyn invited my wife and myself to come to the Eastern Shore that weekend and it had been planned for several weeks before that. When I got back from a trip, Vince and I were supposed to have dinner Friday night. Vince told me that he had decided to get away and that he and Lisa were going to the Eastern Shore to stay-they had rented a hotel room on the Eastern Shore. On Saturday when we got to Michael and Carolyn's house, we told Carolyn that Vince and Lisa were somewhere on the Eastern Shore. We located them, and Carolyn invited them to come over and play tennis and swim and have dinner with us, and they did. They went back to the place they were staying and then came back to Michael and Carolyn's on Sunday, and we played, played tennis and swam and ate crab. The CHAIRMAN. Senator, I don't mean to interrupt you, but I would like to get to Senator Murray, and then we'll come back to you for your full 10 minutes. I defer to Senator Murray. Senator SARBANES. Senator, I might just make the observation that the Eastern Shore of Maryland is a very restful place to visit. Mr. HUBBELL. Sure was, Senator. OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR PATTY MURRAY Senator MURRAY. Thank you, Mr, Chairman. Senator Moseley-Braun talked with you about how you heard about the suicide, going to the home, what occurred there, and the aura present there. Would it be fair to say that your principal concern on the night of July 20, 1993 was taking care of Mrs. Foster? Mr. HUBBELL. Absolutely. Her and Sheila and the children. Senator MURRAY. At some point were you aware the Park Police were there to interview Mrs. Foster? Mr. HUBBELL. At some point the Park Police said they would like to stay if it was OK, and that they would like, if possible, if Lisa was up to it, to ask her a few questions. Senator MURRAY. Were they in uniform or plainclothes? Mr. HUBBELL. I really don't remember. 115