August 4, 1994 - Part 11
August 4, 1994 - Part 11
(22:10:20) Senator MACK. I can see that. I just want to go back and clarify a point so we don't go away with misconceptions. I want to clarify now that you've had this phone call with Lyons, he does refer the referrals, rumors, press inquiries. At this point, you have baReally got two sets of information. One set is what you get from with respect to the referrals and the other is what you've from Lyons. You go to the President. You tell him of the conversation, and I think a minute ago, you indicated you about the referrals, about the rumors. Mr. LINDSEY. Right. I indicated to him that there were press inhat probably Jim Lyons had received a call that referenced the referrals, that my understanding was there were refer rals, that they did mention him, but that it was my understanding at he was not referenced as a subject or a target. 466 Senator MACK. So you have confirmed to the President, then, of these rumors? Mr. LINDSEY. I don't believe there's anything improper, and I believe that Counsel has indicated that there is absolutely nothing improper in informing the President of that, especially in light of the fact that it was now clear to me that the press was aware of it, and that the press, you know, had the story. Senator MACK. I guess we would probably have some difference of opinion on that. There would be some problem, I think, in you making the claim that there was nothing improper in you passing on nonpublic information. That's not a debate frankly-I mean, you probably disagree with that. And I thank you for your open discussion. Thank you very much. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you very much, Senator Mack. I think with that, Senator DAmato Senator D'AMATO. Mr. Chairman, we have no further questions and we thank the Chair for giving all of us an opportunity to fully explore all the questions we thought we had to raise. The CHAIRMAN. I want to thank the witnesses as well. I think the witnesses were direct in their answers to us. There may be some differences of opinion, but I appreciate the testimony and let me now excuse these witnesses, and we'll in a moment call our final witness. Senator KERRY. Maybe you can send the Marines to liberate us. The CHAIRMAN. Bring them right on in. [Pause in the proceedings]