August 4, 1994 - Part 11
August 4, 1994 - Part 11
(22:05:30) Mr. LINDSEY. I don't remember. Senator MACK. I mean, let me toss out something. Did you say something like, we had heard that there was some information? Mr. LINDSEY. Senator Mack, I really-I don't have any specific recollection of the conversation at all. Senator MACK, No, you do have some recollection of the conversation. You just told me you remembered that he said something about the press leaks and about referrals. Mr. LINDSEY. Actually, I have a note that reflects what he told me. I couldn't tell you Senator MACK. Do we have that note? Mr. LINDSEY. I don't believe so. Senator MACK. I wonder if we could get that note? My question is apparently, Mr. Lindsey kept some notes of a phone conversation from Mr. Lyons, and Mr. Lindsey was having difficulty in remembering what that conversation was. He was able to confirm thatmaybe we're going to get-are those the notes? The CHAIRMAN. If there's any note that he has that falls within the scope of our inquiry, we should have received it by now, and I would assume that we have. So my first question would be, is this a document that is within our scope or beyond our scope? Mr. LINDSEY. In my opinion, this document does not relate to White House-Treasury contacts. It involves a conversation with a private attorney about press inquiries he had received from reporters. Senator DAMATO. This is 2 days after the contact. Mr. LINDSEY. I don't have any objection to the Committee having it. Senator DAMATO. OK. The CHAIRMAN. I don't have any objection. Let's let the Counsel look at it to make sure that we're not going beyond what we're sup posed to do at this point. Senator BOXER. Mr. Chairman, while you're doing that, can I make a point of procedure here, ask the two leaders here. We are now, as I calculate it, about 7 hours that these four people have been here at this table. I'm ready to call Amnesty International. They're becoming political prisoners. [Laughter.] The CHAIRMAN. They're on their way. Senator BOXER. They haven't eaten, no bread-well, water, yes. I fervently hope that we can get on to the next panel. The CHAIRMAN. I think, if I may say, I want to accommodate, and I've done everything I can to accommodate, everybody that has questions to ask. I think your point is very well taken. We've been 465 here a long time. We've covered a lot of ground. I'm not sure that we're plowing new ground. Let's take a look at this, however, I would add my voice to Senator Boxer's appeal that within a short period of time, we try to finish, if we possibly can. I say that also out of respect not just to these individuals but the next witness that's coming, who is an important witness. I think we need some time with that witness as well and we've already made a commitment between ourselves we'll finish with that witness tonight so senator MACK. Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Mack. Senator MACK. I think frankly I have asked the questions I wanted to ask. It's just when Mr. Lindsey indicated that there were notes of this conversation, we were having difficulty reconstructing, I thought it might have been helpful if we could have had those notes. And I assume The CHAIRMAN. The opinion of my Counsel is that he thinks arguably it would fall within the scope. You have no objection. Let's make it a part of the record. Do you want to take a look at it? I Senator MACK. That would be fine, if you make it part of the record. Senator SHELBY. Mr. Chairman, just an inquiry. When does Letterman, Leno come on? Do they come on, what time, in another hour or so? [Laughter.] The CHAIRMAN. They're on our next panel. [Laughter.] Senator SHELBY. Mr. Chairman, they generally bring out the cots when we're around the Capitol. Maybe they can bring out some for everybody. The CHAIRMAN. I'm told by Senator DAmato we're very close to being finished on this side. I've had no more requests for time on this side. Senator MACK. I only really have, I think, one more comment to -make. The CHAIRMAN. Let's take it now and perhaps we can finish. Mr. LINDSEY. Senator Mack, this note is a note of a conversation I had with Mr. Lyons while I was in San Francisco, on that trip, and as you see halfway down, it says "Gerth Isikoff"---"RTC source FIRREA," "9 criminal referrals." What I remember about the conversation is based on the fact of this note.