July 25, 1995 - Part 4
July 25, 1995 - Part 4
(14:15:21) Mr. WATKINS. Yes. Mr. CHERTOFF. Now, do you recall where she was when you finally made contact with her by telephone? Mr. WATKINS. I believe that she-as I recall, she told me she was at a restaurant. Mr. CHERTOFF. That was a restaurant in Georgetown? Mr. WATKINS. I don't recall where-which restaurant it was. Mr. CHERTOFF. When you first called her, was it your intent to have her come to the house? Mr. WATKINS. To come to the Foster house, no. Mr. CHERTOFF. You knew she knew the Fosters; right? Mr. WATKINS. Yes, I knew she knew Vince, I don't know if she knew Lisa or not. Mr. CHERTOFF. When you first tried to contact her, didn't you want to find out where she was? Mr. WATKINS. I think I asked her where she was and she said she was at a restaurant, but I don't recall which restaurant. Mr. CHERTOFF. But wasn't it your specific intent when you first paged her to find out what her location was? Mr. WATKINS. I don't recall that. I think my--I called her to notify her that Vince had died. Mr. CHERTOFF. When you originally paged her, is it your testimony you didn't have any assignment in mind for her? Mr. WATKINS. I do not recall that. My recollection is that I called her first to notify her of Vince's death and after that, subsequent to that, when she called me, we'd had conversation about a note, and I asked her to look for a note. Mr. CHERTOFF. So, when you first called Ms. Thomasson to notify her, you didn't care where she was; is that your testimony? Mr. WATKINS. I didn't have any reason to know where she was. Mr. CHERTOFF. You weren't interested in finding out where she was. Mr. WATKINS. I didn't say that. What I said was that I didn't know where she was. I paged her. That's all. Mr. CHERTOFF, Did you leave a message on her pager? Mr. WATKINS. Yes, to call me. Mr. CHERTOFF. Did it say anything besides that? Mr. WATKINS. I don't believe so. Mr. CHERTOFF. Did it say-I'm reading from Z651-"please page David Watkins with your location"? Mr. WATKINS. I don't know, Mr. Chertoff. Mr. CHERTOFF. Now, Mr. Watkins, you've previously testified a moment ago that it was not your intention to ask her to come to the house; right? Mr. WATKINS. That is correct. Mr. CHERTOFF. So the only other reason that you could probably have wanted her location was to find out how quickly she could get to the White House; correct? Mr. WATKINS. That's an assumption you're making. I don't know. Mr. CHERTOFF. Is it a true assumption or a false assumption? 288 Mr. WATKINS. I don't recall. I don't recall asking her about her location. Mr. CHERTOFF. If we have the Elmo available, maybe we could put it up on the-maybe I could refresh your memory if we. look at the pager document, Can you read that? It says "Please page David Watkins"-misspelled---"with your location." Does that help refresh your memory that when you called her at 10:34 p.m. you wanted to know where she was? Mr. WATKINS. It doesn't refresh my memory. It says "David"_ "please page David Watkins with your location," It doesn't matter, I just wanted to notify her. Mr. CHERTOFF. You don't doubt that you left this message, do' you? Mr. WATKINS. I don't doubt that I left a message. Mr. CHERTOFF. You don't doubt this is the message you left, do you? Mr. WATKINS. I don't know. I don't know what they put on the pager. Mr. CHERTOFF. Don't you leave the message you, want to have on the pager when you make the call? Mr. WATKINS. Generally that is correct, yes. Mr. CHERTOFF. They don't make it up at the White House? Mr. WATKINS. I don't think so, no. Mr. CHERTOFF. Now, when you called Ms. Thomasson and you told her what had happened with Mr. Foster, she asked to come to the house; right? Mr. WATKINS. I don't recall that. Mr. CHERTOFF. Didn't she indicate to you-I'm reading from page 44 of her deposition, "After I had dinner at Sequoia, my pager went off. When I went in, the pager said call David Watkins through the White House switchboard. Called the switchboard and asked to talk to Mr. Watkins and she said give me your number, he wants to call you back. I said I'm at a pay phone, why don't you just let me hold. So I held until she could get Mr. Watkins back on the telephone for me. And Mr. Watkins told me at that point in time that Vince Foster had killed himself and I said you got to be kidding me. What did you say? What did you just say? Patsy, Vince has killed himself. And I said what can I do? Can I come where you are?" Does that ring a bell with you? Mr. WATKINS. She may have said that. That would have been a natural comment by her. Mr. CHERTOFF. What was your response? Mr. WATKINS. My response, as I recall, was no, there's no reason to come to the house. Would you go to the White House and see if there's a note.