(13:25:50) I believe we're going to have a motion on the table at 2,30, At least we'll be able to get a half hour because we'll have to take a break at 2:30, It is not my intent, if we need more time to complete this, to take this into the evening, but I do intend to move forward -with it. Senator SARBANES. Here's what I'd suggest, Mr, Chairman. I 'would suggest that, in the circumstance, we start this panel first thing Tuesday, but then alert the Members that, in fact, these hearings will not end at 1 p.m. and may well go over into the afternoon period. Members would know that and would have been able to plan their schedule accordingly. The CHAIRMAN. I'd have to first make an inquiry. Mr. Watkins, you've come in from California. Is that not true? Mr. WATKINS. That's correct. The CHAIRMAN. What, if anything, will putting you over until Tuesday do? Mr. WATKINS. I would want to return and come back instead- The CHAIRMAN. You'll be able to do that. Mr. WATKINS. I can do that, yes. Senator SARBANES. Why don't we do that and alert the Members, and then they'll know. They'll be on notice. The CHAIRMAN. Senator, let us at least lay the foundation, since we have at least 1 hour until the next vote, and get the testimony from the witnesses and our presentations on each side. This will not impinge on any of the other Members, and at 2:30 we have a vote. We can save a lot of time. I have attempted to be accommodating, and I will do that, but I feel that unless we begin to move, we just won't complete the work that we've scheduled to be finished before we leave. I don't to keep us in, and I don't know how many of our brethren stay during the projected recess period, which I think is the second week or the third week in August, But this is a deliberate pace, so let me swear in the witness. Senator SARBANES. Let me say this. I don't differ from that, and need to pick up the pace, obviously. But I think the way to do that is now to alert our Members that the 1 p.m. time that was which we had discussed before and which, of course The CHAIRMAN. The reason for it- Senator SARBANES, -the Chairman is very clear to have set that 1 p.m. time and we acceded to that, that beginning next week, that's not going to happen. 210 Now, this panel is going to have to be back next week in any event, obviously, and it would seem to me if we could begin them on Tuesday morning promptly at 9.30 and proceed from there, we could carry through. That would avoid a very serious problem with a number of Members. I'll have to be honest, I, myself, operating on the understanding from the Chairman, made plans for this afternoon. The CHAIRMAN. Let me point out that it's 1:30 now. We can swear in the witnesses. We will take less than our half hour between us. I know Senator Gramm has some questions. You have a half hour that generally has been spent between yourself and Mr. Ben-Veniste, and/or if we break without you using that, that we would start on Tuesday with your 30-minute opening. But I would like to continue this. Senator SARBANES. But none of the Members are here to hear it, Mr. Chairman. I want to be fair to the Members operating on what the Chairman told them. The attendance has been very good. In fact, I want to underscore the commitment of Members for people who are watching this. In fact, I want to register for the record that Senator Murray this morning had indicated that a matter had come up on the Floor which required her being present, and that explains her absence. The CHAIRMAN. The same is true for Senator Mack, who's managing the bill. Senator SARBANES. Senator Murray is the Ranking Member with Senator Mack.