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Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973
[00.47.26] Mr. DASH. And do you know, to your knowledge, what the purpose of that disbursement was? Mr. SLOAN. I have sort of a peripheral knowledge from being there at the time, it was turned over. My understanding was that this period we had situation arose out, of the fact, during the pre-April 7 asked everything thing, all funds received in the States be turned in to the national committee. Evidently in the case of Maryland an arrangement was made, presumably between Secretary Stans and whoever the other principals were, that they were going to have a dinner for, I believe, Vice President Agnew at a later date which they knew about and, yes, they would be willing to turn all money in at this point but they would expect a loan back as seed money for this dinner and that that money would come back to us again in terms of receipts from the dinner. Mr. DASH. -NOW, who is Mr. Hitt, who is the next person listed on the chart? Mr, SLOAN. Mr. Bob Hitt, this would be in 1971, was the administrative assistant to Rogers 'Morton at the Department of the Interior. Mr, DASH. And the chart, indicates that he received a cash disbursement. from you of $25,000; is that correct? Mr. SLOAN. Yes sir. Mr. DASH. To your knowledge, do you know what that disbursement was for? Mr. SLOAN. I am not positive that, I knew precisely at the time I gave, it to him but certainly in the period of attempts to get it back it was clearly indicated that those funds had been requested for the purpose of aiding in the special election for the congressional seat vacated by Rogers Morton when he assumed the secretaryship of Interior. Mr. DASH. Just briefly, would you go down the rest of the names On the. list and give a brief statement, to your knowledge, if you do !mow what the amount was for? Mr, SLOAN. Mr. Lon Nofsiger, at, that time was probably the executive director of the California Committee for the Re-Election of the President. I am not positive that it Was in cash but it is likely that it, was-- I had no knowledge at, the time of the purpose. This would be hearsay and I have heard rumors since then from people in the campaign. This was used for some purpose with regard to the Wallace Primary. Mr. Stone I assume, is Mr. Clement Stone. That request really was from Mr. Bob, Bob Athey, who was his political assistant. As I understand the circumstances there, Mr. Stone had made 8 very large contribution to the President's campaign in the pre-April 7 period. Evidently he had indicated in the period of time where the arrangements for" this were made, at which I was not present, that he intended in making his total contribution to the national level that this would be his complete contribution for all political activities in the 1972 election year. So what this amounted to was a request from Mr. Athey for a return of a certain portion of his contribution to be used, I believe, in Illinois for a bipartisan vote-fraud committee. He had evidently made a commitment of $15,000 to that committee. In that case I am not sure, as well as the case of Mr. Nofsiger, whether that was check or cash. Mr. Robert Dole at that point in time was the chairman of the Republican National Committee. I do not recall how this request was made. I remember within the committee it was disputed. The funds, as I understood them, were to pay for a trip of his to Vietnam, internally within the staff, we could not understand why we would be paying for Mr. Dole's trip. Mr. DASH. I think the other were miscellaneous amounts and I think for the purposes of this time we do not need a full explanation of those but would you provide the committee, I think you have the list, the specific accounting, if you have it, of the others. Now, what I would like to do, Mr. Sloan, is move ahead to the period of June 17, 1972, which was the date of the break-in of the Democratic national headquarters, Where were you at that time? Mr. SLOAN, At the time of the break-in? Mr. DASH. Yes, sir. Mr. SLOAN. I believe the break-in was in the very early hours of the morning. On the date that the news of the break-in came out, which was the 17th I was at my office in the campaign committee. Mr. DASH. Now, did anything occur on that date with regard to Mr. Liddy and you? Mr. SLOAN. Yes, sir. Mr. DASH. Please tell the committee what, if anything, happened? Mr. SLOAN. I am Dot sure precisely of the timing Of this but I believe it was as I came into the committee that morning, which would have been probably 9:30, quarter to 10, somewhere in that, range, I believe I ran into Mr. Liddy outside of his office, I stopped him whether merely to say good morning or whether I had a specific question of him, I really cannot recall. He was obviously in a hurry. He was essentially heading down the hall. At that, point in time he." made the statement to me, to the best of my recollection, that: "My boys got caught last night-, I made a mistake; I used somebody from here, Which I told them I would never do; I am afraid I am going to lose my job." [00.53.29]
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973
[00.53.29] Mr. DASH. Did that statement Mean anything to you -at that time, Mr. Sloan? Mr. SLOAN. Not right then. It was an odd statement to make obviously, but, I had no knowledge at that point in time of the break itself . It, had no real relevance, I assumed he was talking about what people do in campaigns all the time, when they make mistakes they are going to lose their jobs, Mr. DASH. Did there come a time during the day when you did give significance to the statement? Mr. SLOAN, Yes, sir. Mr. DASH. When was that and what significance did you give to it? Mr. SLOAN. It would have been at the time I received knowledge of the break-in, the fact I believe it was indicated at that point Mr. McCord was involved. It would have been at, some point after that meeting with Mr. Liddy. Mr. DASH. On or about June 21 or 22 did you have a conversation with Mr. Magruder? Mr. SLOAN. Yes, sir. Mr. DASH. Could you briefly tell the committee what that conversation was about? Mr. SLOAN. I forget all of the circumstances surrounding it. I am not positive on the dates but to the best of my recollection, this would be the general time frame, the time period. I forget, I believe he called me to his office. He indicated to me that we are going to 'have to--or suggested to me a figure of what I had given to Mr. Liddy in the range of somewhere $75,000 to $80,000. I do not believe at that point, in time I had prepared a, summary of the figures so I did not know the precise amount of money that I had given to Mr. Liddy at that point. However, I did know that the sum was considerably larger than that because Mr. Magruder himself had authorized a payment for $837000 in one single installment. I must have indicated to him, well, that Just is not the right figure. I did not have the right. figures, but that is too low. He indicated to me at that time that I said to him, he must, have been insistent because I remember making to him on that occasion a statement I have no intention of perjuring myself. Mr. DASH. What did he say to you when you said that? Mr. SLOAN, He said you may have to. Mr. DASH. Did you have shortly after, either on that day or any day following, a conversation with Mr. Fred LaRue? Mr. SLOAN. Yes, sir. Mr. DASH. Who was Fred LaRue at that time? Mr. SLOAN. He was a special assistant to Mr, Mitchell, who was the Campaign director at that time. Mr. DASH. Could you just briefly give us the content of that conversation? Mr. SLOAN. I believe by that point, in that time there was a general awareness within the campaign that an internal investigation was going on and that Mr. La Rue was conducting it in behalf of Mr. Mitchell. At that meeting we discussed, I believe, in general terms, and again my recollection, if the timing is right, I would not have the right figure, We were just generally discussing figures cash problems and he specifically mentioned, he asked me whether I received a $50,000 contribution from Mr. Porter and I said I had, and he said, and this would be after April 7, he said what have you done with it? I said I have done, nothing because I do not know who it is from. I am waiting for Mr. Porter to give me the information. He called in Mr. Porter and this Was in the context of there is going to be an external investigation, are there any remaining problems, things that, could be embarrassing? I Was recounting to him there were certain funds we did not have information on, we had done nothing. He, called Mr. Porter in and asked him about it, and Mr. Porter said he did not know, it, came through an attorney in Washington, they did not want to be. known, it was an anonymous contribution. I believe at that point, whether Mr. Porter was still there or -not I am not sure, I had a call from my own office from Jane Dannenhauer, my secretary, which indicated there were two agents form the FBI in my office, who would appreciate the pleasure of seeing me at that point. Mr. LaRue indicated that I do not think he should go down there without seeing John Mitchell first. He said wait here, and he went down the ball to Mr. Mitchell's office. He came back and got me and I believe Mr. Mardian was in the, room as well. Mr. DASH. You said Mr. Mardian was in the room with whom? Mr. SLOAN. With Mr. Mitchell, I entered with Mr. LaRue in Mr. Mitchell's office. Mr. DASH. Did you have any discussion with Mr. Mitchell at that I time? Mr. SLOAN. Yes, sir, Mr. DASH. What was that discussion? Mr. SLOAN. I was essentially asking for guidance. The campaign literally at, this point was falling apart before your eyes, nobody was coming up with any answers as to what was really going on. 1 had some very strong concerns about where all of this money had gone. I essentially asked for guidance, at which point he told me, "When the going gets tough, the tough get, going." [Laughter.] [00.58.36]
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973
[00.58.36] Mr. DASH. You did go downtown; and were you getting interviewed at that time by FBI agents? Mr. SLOAN. Yes, sir. Mr. DASH. And after you were interviewed by the FBI agents, did you again see Mr. LaRue that day? Mr. SLOAN. With regard to that interview, the FBI concern at that point in time was merely the question of identity of Mr. Alfred Baldwin and none of the questions which were bothering me at that point in time came up in the questioning. I believe Mr. LaRue came down to my Office following that interview essentially to find out what I said and what matters came up. At that point he indicated to me that, and I do not have the precise words, the sense of the meaning as it came across to me, there was very brief reference something to the effect that the Liddy money is the problem, it is very political sensitive, we can just, not come out with a high figure, we are going to have, to come out with a different figure. And I said, as I recall, I said if there is a problem, I cannot see that it makes any difference -whether it is $200 or $200,000, at which point he dropped the conversation. Mr. DASH. Well, now, Mr. Sloan apparently, you were becoming concerned. I take it that you were concerned about your own involvement in this matter? Mr. SLOAN. Yes, sir. Mr. DASH. What did you do about it thereafter? Mr. SLOAN. I believe some of these events I am describing today, or a, moment ago, the Magruder--Mitchell-- meetings probably happened on that Thursday, the 22d, because there was a party that evening on a boat on the Potomac, with Col. Verne Coffey, who had been the Army aide to the President-and I remember my wife picking me up that, day, I think it was probably the Magruder comment to me which by that point in the day had me, to put it mildly, rather agitated the more I thought about it, I went to this cocktail party on this boat. I guess my mood would be essentially anger. I sought out at that party a number of people. I talked to Ken Cole, Mr. Ehrlichman's assistant on the Domestic Council, 'Mr. Chapin, the President's appointments secretary, and Pat Buchanan, who was a speech writer for the President. I really do not remember the depth with which I expressed my concern with the problem, but I believe I was generally expressing a concern that there was something very wrong at the campaign committee, Mr. DASH. As a result, Of that concern, did you in fact have any meetings with Mr. Ehrlichman or Mr. Chapin? Mr. SLOAN. Yes, sir; Mr. Cole indicated to me that night that I was expressing to him and to Mr. Chapin that I felt that John Ehrlichman and Bob Haldeman should be aware that there was a, problem. I do not--in the case of 'Mr, Chapin--I do not, know whether I specifically requested a meeting with Bob Haldeman. I indicated to him that Bob should have this knowledge He asked me, to come see him the next day at noon. Ken Cole, the next, day, called me at some point--I do not know whether he called me himself or somebody in his office, but that, John Ehrlichman would like to see me at 2 o'clock that, afternoon. I went to the Chapin meeting. I again--there has been a year here. I do not precisely know what degree of knowledge or what conclusions 1 had come to at this point. But I believe probably the tone of the conversation was that there is a tremendous problem there, something has to be done. Mr. Chapin evaluated my condition at that point as being somewhat overwrought and suggested a vacation, which in fact, I was planning to leave on the next week. It had been planned for a long time. he suggested that the important thing is that the President be protected. In the Ehrlichman meeting--- Mr. DASH. When did that occur? Mr. SLOAN. That happened around--I believe it was a 12 o'clock meeting on the 23d. The Ehrlichman meeting-it would have been a Friday. In the Ehrlichman meeting at, 2--I started into generally the same discussion of problems. Mr. DASH. Mr. Sloan, when you say problems, did that include any statements by you about -cash disbursements that had been made to Mr. Liddy? Mr. SLOAN. I do not believe --- [01.04.03--TAPE OUT]
Watergate Hearings: Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973 Testimony of Hugh Sloan
Watergate Hearings: Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973 Testimony of Hugh Sloan
Watergate Hearings: Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973 Testimony of Hugh Sloan
Watergate Hearings: Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973 Testimony of Hugh Sloan
Watergate Hearings: Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973 Testimony of Hugh Sloan
Watergate Hearings: Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973 Testimony of Hugh Sloan
Watergate Hearings: Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973 Testimony of Hugh Sloan
Watergate Hearings: Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973 Testimony of Hugh Sloan
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Watergate Hearings: Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973 Testimony of Hugh Sloan
Watergate Hearings: Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973 Testimony of Hugh Sloan [00.26.05--MacNEILL in studio] MacNEILL summarizes first hour of SLOAN'S testimony about approximately $2 million in cash payments, including those to Gordon LIDDY, and the efforts of MAGRUDER and LaRUE to get SLOAN to keep silent Addresses the 70,000 letters received by viewers of the hearings broadcasts [shot of a mailbag with many letters strewn about, titles show quotes from viewer letters] MacNEILL reads from the letters, v.o., notes that 99 percent of letters have been positive in tone, but reads a negative letter for balance, from an Arkansas woman who claims it is "a bunch of lies trying to make the Democrats money" MacNEILL urges viewers to send their responses to their local Public Television station, and urges viewers to give money to those stations [00.28.34-DO NOT USE PBS network ID- 28.56
Watergate Hearings: Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973 Testimony of Hugh Sloan
Watergate Hearings: Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973 Testimony of Hugh Sloan
Watergate Hearings: Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973 Testimony of Hugh Sloan
Watergate Hearings: Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973 Testimony of Hugh Sloan
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