[01.09.23] Mr. RANGEL. Thank you. I wonder as we try to talk about specifics so that the President would be in a better position to defend himself whether we really take into consideration that the mandate of this Committee is to report, to the. House of Representatives and it seems to me that if we got bogged down with specifics before the House of Representatives has worked its will, that perhaps we would not give the, general recommendation to the House that it. rightfully deserves. It is not our constitutional responsibility to impeach the President but merely to report to the House. So that it seems to me that we should not be talking about specifics but give the maximum amount of information to !he House of -Representatives so that they can deal with the problem constitutionally. Mr. COHEN. I yield to the gentleman from Illinois, Mr. Railsback. Mr. RAILSBACK. Thank you. I thank the gentleman for yielding. Mr. Doar, I wonder if I could direct a question to you, I wonder if in past impeachment cages it has not been the procedure that the Judiciary Committee has recommended and then on some occasions the I-louse of Representatives itself has formally drafted and prepared articles of impeachment which were then submitted to the Senate. In other words, it is my recollection that there may have been cases -where the House judiciary Committee simply made a recommendation that the House itself had the responsibility of drafting and adopting the articles of impeachment based on the recommendation. and I wonder if we couldn't do it that way. What is your feeling about that? Mr. DOAR. My understanding is that has been the past practice. Mr. RAILSBACK. I thought that was the--- The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from Maine has expired. Mr. HOGAN. Mr. Chairman ? Mr. MOORHEAD. Mr. Chairman? The CHAIRMAN. Before we proceed, the Chair would like to state some propositions. First of all, we do know that we are proceeding under a very unique proceeding. Impeachment has offered us except for the case of Andrew Johnson no guidelines, no precedents. It is a fact, however, that the rules of evidence do not apply as such. The rules that will be the rules that will apply should this impeachment proceeding move on into the, House and then to trial in the Senate will be the rules that the Senate will adopt. We do know as a matter of fact from impeachment proceedings and the research that has been extensive, and I-all I need do is recall to the Members of the House that the House of Representatives has indeed impeached without any articles of impeachment except merely to impeach, and that at on a mere motion, a privileged motion of any member of the House, that the House could move to impeach. So that therefore this discussion and this issue requiring specificity in order to lay the groundwork for articles of impeachment seems to me to be begging of a question which I think has long been settled. What we do here is to proceed with deliberations concerning the Proposition that certain articles of impeachment be recommended by this committee to the House of Representatives, Mr. RAILSBACK. Will the chairman yield? The CHAIRMAN. In the, report I hat the. committee will then furnish the, House of Representatives that Information will be specifically included together with that--counsel for the President as has, been properly pointed out by the gentleman from Maine would be Provided with all of the information which is contained in the summary of information which details all of the specifics and that prior to trial in' the Senate, upon proper request by counsel for the President, should it reach that stage, discover and other proceedings, that these material would be then provided. And I believe that this affords all of the opportunity for fairness in this to insure that the House of Representatives not act as a trial body under the exacting rules of evidence as we know them because this as a. matter Of fact, and all of US are aware, I think, who; have been long wrestling- with this question, that the House of Representatives is indeed not the trial body but the. body merely recommending articles of impeachment, even if they may be in the broadest sense. [01.14.51]
[01.20.32] Mr. HUNGATE. [continuing] In the March. 21, 1973, transcript, relating to the, conversation from 10:12 to 11:55 a.m. Appendix 6 of the GPO conversations: *QUOTED SECTION* Mr. DEAN. There is no doubt I was totally aware what the Bureau was doing at all times. I was totally aware of what the grand jury was doing. I knew that witnesses were going to be called. I knew what they were going to be asked, and I had to. NIXON. [I infer that is the President.] Why did Petersen play the. game so straight with us? DEAN. Because Petersen is a soldier. He kept me informed. He told Me when we had problems, where we had problems, He believes in you and he believes in this administration. This administration has made him. I don't think he has done anything improper but he did make sure the investigation was narrowed down to the very, very fine criminal thing which was a break for us. There is no doubt about it. [Mr. HUNGATE. There would be another break if you narrowed this thing down to the head of a, pin.] NIXON. He honestly feels that he did an adequate job? DEAN. They ran that investigation out to the fullest extent they could follow a lead and that was it, -NIXON. But the point is, where I suppose he could be criticized for not doing an adequate job. Why did he call Haldeman? Why didn't he get a statement from Colson? Oh, they did get, Colson. DEAN. That is right. But see, the thing is, is based on their FBI interviews There. was no reason to follow up. There were no leads there. Colson said, "I have no knowledge of this" to the FBI. Strachan said "I have no knowledge of--you know, they didn't ask Strachan any Watergate questions. They asked him about* Segretti and the-" *END QUOTED SECTION* The CHAIRMAN. Vie time of the gentleman--- Mr. HUNGATE. [reading] AS a result of sonic coaching, he could be the dumbest pap paper usher in the bowels of the White House. The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman has expired. I recognize the gentleman from Maryland, Mr. Hogan. Mr. HOGAN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As the chairman and Mr. Railsback correctly observed Andrew Johnson impeachment, the committee brought to the general recommendation of impeachment. The House, approved then and only then was a committee appointed to draw Up charges to go to the Senate. Over there as someone observed there not only some added but there -were some ignored. I think one traps that we are falling into here is that we are drawing this grand jury analogy much further than it warrants. A number of US in our remarks in genera debate tried to indicate What an impeachable offense is, Now, if you subscribe to the idea, that an impeachable. offense must, be an indictable offense then perhaps you have some. justification for arguing that we are really here drawing an indictment. But such is really not the case. We are not a grand jury . [We are operating here under a constitutionally authorized extra-legal power. We are not involved in a criminal proceeding. So that when we go to the floor, we can go with as broad and nebulous an impeachment resolution as -we possibly desire to draw. It is amendable on the floor depending on what rules we operate under. It is even by the precedents amendable in the, Senate. Mr. RAILSBACK. Mr. Chairman, could we have order? the CHAIRMAN. The committee will be in order, The gentleman will suspend until the committee is in order. Mr. HOGAN. But even beyond that, Mr. Chairman, I think -we are ally straining here as we talk about precedents. There are not really that many precedents. There have not been that many impeachments and there have been far fewer, there have been only about a. dozen impeachments and if my memory serves me, there were only three convictions and those impeachments are contradictory one with the other. So I think we are really not, looking at--the responsibility that we have here is to go forward with a recommendation to the House. That really all that we are about. Now, I personally think it -would be preferable to have specific charges naming places and dates and times and names but it is not essential and to argue that that is our responsibility under the Constitution is just ignoring what the Constitution gives us for the impeachment power. [01.25.00]
Formosa - harbor - freight being loaded (some animation) (ON PREVIEW CASSETTE #98969-13:13:52)
Navy ships with supplies unloading, also good push cart, bicycles, people
Formosa - ships and harbors, loading and unloading freight
Formosa - agriculture - excavating earth by machine for irrigation
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House construction, village, mud fishing, Chinese firls, boy playing basketball, pan shot villages, girl pumping water, manual irrigation
Harvested fields, drought, sugar can field, warter well construction, irrigation canals, ditches, pipes, thrashing oats and wheat seeds. (TRANSFERRED TO PREVIEW CASSETTE #97485)
Formosa - "Coolies workers"
Farming
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Formosa - misc
Preview cassette #97789 Part 1 Opium den and Chinese smoking.
Preview Cassette #97789 Part 1 Opium den / preparation for smoking. Male Chinese citizen lying on side preparing opium pipe and other acoutrements for drug-high journey. He is dressed in traditional clothing of China, he looks quite gaunt and boney most likely due to his habit.
High angle view of adult Asian man smoking opium through a straw or pipe from a piece of aluminum or metal while lying on his side.
ON PREVIEW CASSETTE 97789 PART 1 Opium den - smokers: preparation
ON PREVIEW CASSETTE 95519 Dragon festival
Ch Eung street festival
Chinese dragon parade
China / dragon
Hong Kong funeral - hearse - casket
Temples