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Berlin in the snow riding through snowy streets, bombed out buildings, late 40's
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Church youth in Germany from different countries, parade, dance
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July 19, 1995 - Part 3
(12:55:20) The CHAIRMAN. Senator Sarbanes. Senator SARBANES. Senator Dodd. Senator DODD. Just briefly, I think, for purposes of clarity here. In fact, Bernie Nussbaum did go to the Foster home, is that not true, that evening? Mr. HUBBELL. I don't know, Senator. I just-I mean, I don't know. I don't know if he did or he didn't. Senator DODD. In terms of going in the office, were there others, do you know about other staff or persons in the White House when he did go to the White House? Mr. HUBBELL. I'm sorry? Senator DODD. None of the White House staff were present in the White House when Mr. Nussbaum went up, back up to his office? Mr. HUBBELL. I don't know that. I really don't know what Vince-I mean, Bernie did that night. Senator DODD. I would just, Mr. Chairman, point out there is evidence- we'll hear it down the road-that Mr. Nussbaum went and he called, that he was to call White House personnel so they might hear it from him, rather than hear it over the broadcast news, and hear it from people who are pretty close to each other, which 1 find to be a relatively normal thing to do. I mean, I certainly, that to me would be the way a person would react, rather than having people who work pretty closely to have to turn on their radios or televisions that night and hear it for the first time. Mr. HUBBELL. Senator, we had the same concerns with people back in Arkansas, including Vince's mother, of having to makeyou asked about telephone calls. We had to call people back in Arkansas. We didn't want them to hear it on TV. So I'm sure Bernie had the same concerns there. That's why, I'm sure, George called me. I would have hated to turn on the TV and seen Vince's picture there. I can imagine what that would do to the people in the White House Counsel's Office. Senator DODD. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator SARBANES. Senator Kerry. Senator KERRY. Just a few questions, if I may. Let me also say it's interesting that we spent an awful lot of time finding out what has surprised you or what you have found strange, but the bottom line remains that, in terms of the handling of the documents, you had precious little involvement. In terms of finding facts here, Many questions have been asked about extraneous issues which You were not firsthand with but which leave things hanging out there, not the least of which is this most recent round about Patsy Thomasson. 134 I mean, in the context of the evening, just to review the facts for 60 seconds, David Watkins was the first to arrive at the Foster home, and Patsy Thomasson worked for David Watkins. David Watkins, the evidence shows, asked if there was a note in the Foster office, and I believe he beeped Patsy Thomasson; is that correct, Mr. Hubbell? Mr. HUBBELL. I don't know. Senator KERRY. You don't even know that. The record shows that he beeped Patsy Thomasson, asked her to go to Foster's off-ice to see if there was a note. There is nothing in the record that shows that she went there to look at files. In fact, three people were there: Bernie Nussbaum, Maggie Williams, and Patsy Thomasson, all of whom the testimony shows were looking for a note. They were there for about 10 minutes. But the way these questions are somehow posed as to what seems strange or what seems surprising, there's an inference there that somehow this is something out of the ordinary. I would like to just review very, very quickly-because we have another panel coming and this will be relevant. When you arrived at the Foster home, and the testimony in answer to Senator Grams was it was somewhere in the vicinity of 10 P.M., the Park Police were arriving or had arrived at that time? Mr. HUBBELL. I believe they were about to go in the door when I jumped out of the car and was right there. Senator KERRY. So you saw them for the first time right at the door to the house itself? Mr. HUBBELL. Yes. Senator KERRY. They had not yet gone into the house. Mr. HUBBELL. That's correct. Senator KERRY. Who initiated a conversation with them? Mr. HUBBELL. I believe I did. Senator KERRY. Do you remember what that was? Mr. HUBBELL. I believe I asked if I could notify Senator KERRY. Did you ask them who they were first? Did you know why they were there? Mr. HUBBELL, I saw David, and I had been told by George Stephanopoulos that David and the Park Police were on their way to notify Lisa, so I just assumed they were Park Police. Senator KERRY. I see. Was David there at the time? Mr. HUBBELL. David Watkins? Yes. Senator KERRY. He had not notified her? Mr. HUBBELL. No, David had actually-I think he rode with the Park Police to the Foster Senator KERRY. So David was outside the house, too? Mr. HUBBELL. Right.
Breeders Show Prize Battle
Some contrast and imagery faded Exclusive pictures of Blue-Ribbon Specimens from all parts of the United States, owned by agricultural colleges and four h clubs, being exhibited before a large crown of fanciers.
Palace Roof Fortified As Cuba
Rolling light on imagery and contrast Exclusive pictures on top of the Presidential Palace as Grau San Martin inspects the new armament placed there to guard against another uprising. Meanwhile, in another part of the city, unmindful of the crisis, huge crowds are on hand to see the opening of the racing season at tropical park.
Model Planes In Novel Test
Rolling, jumpy dull contrast in imagery Exclusive pictures at the municipal airport where tiny aircraft, powered with real gasoline engines, make trial flights under the supervision of well-known aeronautical experts, to demonstrate the practical use of new safety devices for airships.
Students In Wild Battle
Rolling, jumpy dull contrast in imagery Hectic scenes as opposing collegiate factions clash in a picturesque flour battle, scattering bags of Pease meal and ripping each others clothing to shreds.
July 19, 1995 - Part 3
(13:00:28) Mr. HUBBELL, That's correct. Senator KERRY. You made the inquiry of whom? Do you remember who, specifically, you asked? Mr, HUBBELL. I do not. I believe there were it was the male Park Policeman. Senator KERRY, What prompted you to ask if you could make the notification? 135 Mr. HUBBELL. I just-human reaction that you'd want-if-I would think Lisa would want to hear it from me. Senator KERRY. What specifically was the response to you? Mr, HUBBELL. To the best of my recollection, it was something like this is their job and they must do it. Senator KERRY. Did you question that? Mr. HUBBELL No, I did not. I understood. Senator KERRY. But you watched from that location while that notification took place. Mr. HUBBELL. That's correct. Senator KERRY. When did the issue of his office and the question of law enforcement interest in the office first occur to you? Mr. HUBBELL. I don't believe I ever had it occur to me of law enforcement interest in the office. I was concerned, as I said, that it be locked so that nothing was taken out like the trash. I didn't have a law enforcement hat on, and I wasn't thinking that this was any kind of a crime scene or thing of that sort. It was just lock the office and make sure we don't throw something away that might give us some insight into Vince's state of mind. Senator KERRY. The next morning, the first thing you did was execute some personal steps to follow up on that concern; is that accurate? Mr. HUBBELL. That's correct. I called Bill Burton to make sure that it had been done because I didn't, I still don't recall saying to Mack or David to do that that night. Others do, but I know I woke up in the middle of the night worrying about it, so the first thing I did was to call Bill the next morning, and he said Mack had already done it, Senator KERRY. In the course of the evening preceding, in the course of the night or in the early morning prior to calling to have the office locked, you had no discussions with anybody about any files; is that correct? Mr. HUBBELL. The subject of files never came up. Senator KERRY. I yield my time to the counsel. Senator SARBANES. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. The CHAIRMAN. Certainly. Senator Moseley-Braun. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. I just have one little question, and this is just for clarity in the record. To your knowledge, Mr. Hubbell, was the FBI ever denied their request for access to Vince Foster's office? Mr. HUBBELL. I'm not aware of that, no. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. So you're not aware of anybody saying " stay out" to the FBI? Mr. HUBBELL. No, I'm not. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. Thank you. Senator SARBANES. Mr. Chairman, I think we've completed the questioning. The CHAIRMAN. I think counsel has several questions, and then we can wrap it up. Mr. Chertoff, Mr. CHERTOFF. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In your discussions with Mr. Heymann after you got back from Little Rock, in which he indicated to you that there had been an understanding or an agreement between the Department of Justice 136 and Mr. Nussbaum which had then been changed, was it your uriderstanding that the change was one that Mr. Nussbaum made? Mr. HUBBELL. That is my understanding, yes. Mr. CHERTOFF. It was not a mutually agreed-upon change? Mr. HUBBELL. That's My understanding Mr. CHERTOFF. You were also asked a series of questions by Mr. Ben-Veniste, who read from a deposition of Roger Adams, who is a Department of Justice lawyer. You knew Mr. Adams; correct? Mr. HUBBELL. I did. Not for long, but I did know him, yes. Mr. CHERTOFF. I want to make sure there is no misimpression. You're not telling us that Mr. Adams offered an opinion about the propriety of anything that was done in the White House concerning Counsel's Office work on personal documents, are you? Mr. HUBBELL. I'm not aware one way or the other. Mr. CHERTOFF. You have no knowledge that Mr. Adams was ever asked to render an opinion about whether it was proper for White House Counsel to work on any personal Presidential documents; correct? Mr. HUBBELL. No, I'm almost sure he was not. Mr. CHERTOFF. In fact, are you aware that Mr. Adams was one of the two Justice Department lawyers sent by the Deputy Attorney General to the White House on Thursday, July 22, 1993? Mr. HUBBELL. Phil told me who went when I returned from Little Rock. Mr, CHERTOFF. Was it your knowledge that Mr. Adams was one of the two lawyers that Mr. Heymann expected would be reviewing the documents initially to determine relevance and privilege?
Freighter Rammed In Harbor
Rolling contrast dull and light in imagery Striking views of the Ohioan of the Hawaiian-American line which was in collision with the S.S. Liberty of the cosmopolitan line in New York bay and was beached to keep from sinking as water poured through a hole in its side.
Human Fly Trap Discovered
Rolling contrast dull and light in imagery Exclusive scenes in the world's largest movie studio as Ed Keye, holder of the oddest job on earth, shampoos his head with molasses and walks about the picture sets to lure the insects from in front of the camera lenses.
Six Day Bike Race Starts
Rolling contrast dull and light in imagery Unusual views at Madison Square Garden as fifteen teams, representing seven countries, get away from the first night's sprinting around the big pine saucer in the fifty-fifth international grind to be held in Gorham.