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Impeachment Hearings: House Judiciary Committee, July 27, 1974 (1/2)
[00.08.44] Mr. HUTCHINSON. . Mr. Chairman? The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Hutchinson. Mr. HUTCHINSON. I will yield additional time to Mr. Wiggins. Mr. Wiggins. Thank you, Mr. Hutchinson. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman is recognized. Mr. WIGGINS, I only wish to make one point because it has been discussed elsewhere, and that, is Mr. Haldeman had the opportunity to review tapes prior to his testimony. At that time Mr. Haldeman and the President but very few others were aware Of this taping system. Mr. Haldeman reviewed these tapes. The implication is, being placed in the minds of the committee that this was again part and parcel Of a Corrupt design so that Haldeman could tailor his testimony falsely before a grand jury. Now, that is a suspicion alone, but let me tell you that there Is another side that I think is equally defensible and that is that Mr. Haldeman reviewed that tape so as to testify truthfully to the events, thereon rather than falsely. I think that is an eminently reasonable conclusion, inconsistent with, this suspicious circumstance, and the President is entitled to the more favorable construction of that event. I merely wanted to make that observation with respect to listening to the tapes and I thank the gentleman from Michigan for permitting me to amplify it. Mr. HUTCHINSON. I thank the gentleman. Does the gentleman from Indiana desire to be recognized on this question? Mr. DENNIS. Mr.--- Mr. HUTCHINSON,, I would be happy to yield to the gentleman from Indiana. Mr. DENNIS. I will say to the gentleman from Michigan that I think my friend from California has very adequately covered this matter and I do not really think I have anything particular to add. I yield time to him if he has anything else he wants to say. Mr. WIGGINS. Mr. Hutchinson----- Mr. HUTCHINSON. I yield back the balance of my time. The CHAIRMAN. The question on the motion of the gentleman from Alabama. All those in favor of the motion please signify by saying aye. [Chorus of -'ayes."] All those opposed, no, and the [Chorus of "hoes."] The CHAIRMAN. All those in favor of the motion, please signify by saying aye. [Chorus of "ayes."] The CHAIRMAN. All those opposed. [Chorus of "noes."] The CHAIRMAN. The noes appear to have it. Mr. SANDMAN. I demand a. tally of the vote. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from New Jersey demands a rollcall vote. The clerk will -call the role. All those in favor of the motion please signify by saying aye. All those opposed, no. The CLERK. Mr. Donohue. Mr. DONOHUE. No. The CLERK. Mr. Brooks. Mr. BROOKS. No. The CLERK. Mr. Kastenmeier Mr. KASTENMEIER. No. The CLERK. Mr. Edwards. Mr. EDWARDS. No. The CLERK. Mr. Hungate. Mr. HUNGATE. No. The CLERK. Mr. Conyers. Mr. CONYERS. No. The CLERK. Mr. Eilberg. Mr. EILBERG. No. The CLERK. Mr. Waldie. Mr. WALDIE. No. The CLERK. Mr. Flowers. Mr. FLOWERS. Present The CLERK. Mr. Mann. Mr. MANN. No. The, CLERK. Mr. Sarbanes. Mr. SARBANES. No. The CLERK. Mr. Seiberling. Mr. SEIBERLING. No. The CLERK. Mr. Danielson. Mr. DANIELSON. No. The CLERK. Mr. Drinan. Mr. DRINAN. No. The CLERK. Mr. Rangel. Mr. RANGEL. NO. The CLERK. Ms. Jordan. Ms. JORDAN. NO. The CLERK. Mr. Thornton. Mr. THORNTON. No. The CLERK. Ms. Holtzman. Ms. HOLTZMAN. No. The CLERK. Mr. Owens. Mr. OWENS. No. The CLERK. Mr. Mezvinsky. . Mr. MEZVINSKY. No. The CLERK. Mr. Hutchinson; Mr. HUTCHINSON. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. McClory. Mr. McCLORY. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Smith. Mr. SMITH. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Sandman. Mr. SANDMAN. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Railsback. Mr. RAILSBACK. No. The CLERK. Mr. Wiggins. Mr. WIGGINS. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Dennis. Mr. DENNIS. Mr. Chairman, I am quite puzzled. When the author of the, amendment votes "present" I hardly know what to do but I. vote aye. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman made up his mind rather quickly. Mr. DENNIS. I do that. The CLERK. Mr. Dennis votes, aye. Mr. Fish. Mr. FISH. No. The CLERK. Mr. Mayne. Mr. MAYNE. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Hogan Mr. HOGAN. No. The CLERK. Mr. Butler. Mr. BUTLER. No. The CLERK. Mr. Cohen. Mr. COHEN. No. The CLERK. Mr. Lott. Mr. LOTT. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Froehlich. Mr. FROEHLICH. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Moorhead. Mr. MOORHEAD. Aye The CLERK. Mr. Maraziti. Mr. MARAZITI. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Latta. Mr. LATTA. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Rodino. The CHAIRMAN. NO. The CLERK. Mr. Chairman? The CHAIRMAN. The, clerk will report. The CLERK. Twelve members have voted aye, 25 members have voted no, and 1 member has voted present. The CHAIRMAN. And the motion is not agreed to. [00.14.27]
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[00.21.03] Mr. HOGAN. I will be very pleased to do so, Mr. Chairman. If the Chair would advise me at that -point in the expiration of my time, I will conclude in midsentence and yield. May I continue? The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman is recognized. Mr. HOGAN. Mr. Gray reported this fact to Mr. Dean, that he was going to have a meeting with Helms. SO on the morning of the 28th, Ehrlichman telephoned Gray and told him to cancel the meeting with Helms because he did not want the meeting to take. place at which Helms would tell that there was no CIA involvement. Gray canceled the meeting. The same, day Gray instructed his FBI agents to go out and interview Ogarrio, and continue to try to locate Dahlberg. Also on the 28th Dean asked Walters if, even after knowing there was no CIA involvement, Dean asked Walters if the CIA could stop the FBI investigations of the Dahlberg and Ogarrio checks. Walters refused to do so. Since he could not use CIA to block the investigation, Dean then acted directly, called Gray and insisted that for national security reasons or because Of CIA interest, that Gray's instructions to interview those two men should be withdrawn. Gray did cancel the interviews. But a few days later, Gray called Walters and said that he would interview them unless CIA put into writing its objection. CIA refused to do so and Walters sent Gray a memo saying that CIA had absolutely no interest. They expressed their dissatisfaction with the way the White House, was interfering with their agencies and their concern that the President's interests were not being served by his aides. These above activities were set in motion by the President, and limited the investigatory efforts of the FBI. Now there are other problems I was going to detail but I will not be able to but I do want to call to the attention and recollection of my colleagues the conversation whereby Gray called San Clemente and got Clark MacGregor on the phone and he said to Clark "that I want to talk with the President about his aides trying to misuse"--these are Gray's words not ours-- "misuse the CIA and the FBI." A few minutes later the President called Mr. Gray and did not in any way allude to any conversation he had with Mr. MacGregor or Gray's concern and congratulated Mr. Gray for doing an outstanding job in the hijacking. Mr. Gray could not contain himself any more, he blurted out, "Mr. President, your aides are trying to destroy You. They are misusing the FBI and CIA." And then Mr. Gray testified there was a perceptible pause and the President said, "Go on With your aggressive investigation, Pat." He did not even inquire about this involvement of his aides trying to misuse the FBI and the CIA. I only wish I had another hour to detail more specifies in this area but unfortunately, I do not and I will yield to the gentleman from California, Mr. Danielson. Mr. DANIELSON. Mr. chairman at this point I -wish to save time but in support of my amendment to include congressional committees, I wish to reefer to and by this reference incorporate the comments I made this morning at the time of the amendment and also my comments made on the day before yesterday, July 25, with respect to the House Committee on Banking 'and Currency. There is further evidence in support of such activities with respect to the Senate select committee and this committee and I also incorporate them by reference. Due to the shortage, of time I yield to my brother, Father Drinan. Mr. HOGAN. I think I still have the time but I will be happy to yield to the Congressman form from Massachusetts Mr. DRINAN. Thank you very much. I want to point out the necessity of retaining this section because it deals with something very fundamental, that by Federal law, any person who influences or seeks to influence or intimidates or impedes any witness in any proceeding, commits a crime. Let us take the summer of John Dean during that particular year. On June 21 he is assigned to this case and he sits first of all, with Mr. Gray and the FBI people at every single interview when people from White House go before the FBI. Is Mr. Dean seeking to influence or intimidate or impede? He happens to be the President's counsel. And all of the people who saw Dean there, -who knew, recognized that this is most unusual, especially after the President on the very day after Mr. Dean was assigned, said that the White House has had no involvement whatsoever in Watergate and the President's counsel is there on the phone, day after day, for 2 long weeks with Mr. Patrick Gray. Well, Dean and Ehrlichman really could write a book on how to be a double agent of the FBI. Did he seek to--did he succeed in influencing? That is not the question. The offense is done even if he endeavors to influence. Mr. Dean was before this committee. I cannot imagine him intimidating but he can influence and he can impede and he was very successful. [00.26.20]
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[00.31.41] Mr. SANDMAN. But let us get back again to the most important thing of them all. Why are these' people resisting so hard to give us nine simple sentences? Why'? They do not have to give us great big volumes. They do not have to give us 150 pages that Mr'. Doar referred to. Just give us nine simple, sentences. The simple reason they will not--they do not have the proof, They have 40 books, but no witnesses. An unusual case, to say the least. Now, we can talk about this as long as we want, but I think we have talked long enough. I will yield the balance of my time to the gentleman from California , or Mississippi, I am so sorry, Mr. LOTT. Thank you, Mr. Sandman. Just a couple of points. First of all, with reference to this telephone conversation between the President and Pat Gray ray, the fact is Pat Gray did not initiate that -call. The President called Mr. Gray at approximately 8:25 a.m. .July 6. This all came about apparently through MacGregor and MacGregor did not meet with the President until 10 a.m. A lot has been said about what was said in that conversation. After Gray raised the question that the President's staff was trying to mortally wound the, President what did the President do? He paused perceptibly, and I think this is a natural--it shows logically that this was a matter of first impression and concern and he did not make any kind of comments about coverup. he told him, you just keep going right ahead with your thorough investigation, or some words to that effect. Now there, is no hard evidence that the President ever attempted to interfere with the course of the FBIs investigation. At no time did he, Haldeman or Ehrlichman state that the investigation should be halted--and I refer you to book 2, page 383. They merely expressed a, concern, -and a legitimate one, I think, at that time that the trail not lead to exposure of CIA or Plumbers' activities which would harm national interest. And this is important. Before and after that concern was expressed there was no knowledge or no involvement by the President in the future attempts to limit the investigation. There is no evidence that the, theory, this Watergate break-in was a CIA operation, was discussed before Gray told Dean the FBI was considering this possibility on June 22. Although Gray had checked with Helms before talking to Dean and received a tentative denial, it does not appear that he passed this information on to Dean. I refer you to book 2, page 339. Therefore there. is no evidence that the President was aware of CIA denial at the time he was informed of possible CIA involvement. Now, it is very difficult to argue to these specifies that we are being given, we hear them for the first time. here and there are replies to these, but we have to try to go and find the reply on the spur of the moment. It is important to differentiate, I think, between the President President's expressed concern and the subsequent actions taken by his assistants without his knowledge. Once again You must look at whether this the assistants, the aides, doing these, things, or the President. Mr. HOGAN. Will. the gentleman yield? Mr. LOTT. I think Mr. Wiggins---- The CHAIRMAN. There are 3 1/2 minutes remaining out of the 10 minutes. Mr. Wiggins is recognized Mr. WIGGINS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will try to be succinct. It is instructive to remember. ladies and gentlemen, that in the form of this article we are talking about Presidential misconduct, Presidential misconduct, and not misconduct of others unless it con be logically and appropriately tied to the President. I wish to speak rather rapidly to the matter of CIA. There. are two Presidential acts within the time frame of June 23 to July 6, and that is the time frame in which it is alleged there has been inference with the CIA. The first act begins when the President issued these instructions, as reported in our tab. The President Instructed H.R. Haldeman and John Ehrlichman to insure that the FBI investigation of Watergate did not expose unrelated CIA covert activities or White House special investigative unit activities, and that the CIA and the FBI should coordinate to that end. That is a Presidential act and it is admitted. The only other Presidential act occurred on July 6, several wee later, and this is what the President said after being informed by Pat Gray that his aides are attempting to mortally wound the President. The President said, "Pat, You just continue. to conduct your aggressive investigation." [00.36.29]
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[00.36.29] Mr. WIGGINS. Now, some sinister purpose is imputed because he paused briefly before he said that. But that is what he said. Now, I want to refresh the recollection of the members as to whether or not the President's concern about CIA was justified under all of the circumstances, We remember that McCord was in fact arrested and a former CIA agent, We remember that Barker was in fact arrested and a former CIA agent, perhaps an active CIA agent, Martinez was arrested and he was a former CIA agent. Hunt's name was in the Washington Post: Hunt was a spy for the United States, a former CIA agent, and a former member of the Plumbers' unit. There are other facts which were called to the President's attention on June 23 all of which indicate possible CIA involvement a theory which was Supported by the FBI itself the FBI itself believed there might be CIA involvement, Given those facts, ladies and gentlemen, we are asked to conclude that the President corruptly, corruptly, instructed his aides to request, that there be coordination between the CIA and the FBI so as not to reveal unrelated CIA covert activities: Now, ladies and gentlemen, that is all the evidence there is in between the 23d Of June and the 6th of July. There is no question that John Dean acted improperly. I am willing to stipulate to that. But that does not execute the President's instructions which were given on the 23d of June. On that issue. ladies and gentleman, the question really is not all that close. I would think that the weight if not the preponderance, of the evidence in favor of the President is that he acted in the public, interest as distinguished from corruptly. Surely however, there is not a clear and convincing showing that the President acted corruptly- given the facts and the knowledge that he had at the time he issued the instruction. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman has expired. All time hs expired. The question now occurs on the motion of the gentleman from Alabama. All those in favor of the motion please say aye. [Chorus of "ayes".] The CHAIRMAN. All those opposed, no, [Chorus of "noes."] The CHAIRMAN. The noes have it. Mr. SANDMAN. Mr. Chairman, I demand a rollcall. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from New Jersey demands a rollcall, and the clerk will call the roll. All those in favor, signify by saying aye; all those opposed, no. The CLERK. Mr. Donohue. Mr. DONOHUE. No. The CLERK. Mr. Brooks. Mr. BROOKS. No. The CLERK. Mr. Kastenmeier. Mr. KASTENMEIER. NO. The CLERK. Mr. Edwards, Mr. EDWARDS. NO. The CLERK. Mr. Hungate. Mr. HUNGATE. No. The CLERK. Mr. Conyers. Mr. CONYERS. No. The CLERK. Mr. Eilberg Mr. EILBERG. No. The CLERK. Mr. Waldie. Mr. WALDIE. No. The CLERK. Mr. Flowers. Mr. FLOWERS. Present. The CLERK. Mr. Mann. Mr. MANN. No. The CLERK. Mr. Sarbanes. Mr. SARBANES. No. The CLERK. Mr. Seiberling Mr. SEIBERLING. No. The, CLERK. Mr. Danielson. Mr. DANIELSON. No. The CLERK. Mr. Drinan. Mr. DRINAN. No. The CLERK. Mr. Rangel. Mr. RANGEL. NO. The, CLERK. Ms. Jordan. Ms. JORDAN. NO, The CLERK. Mr. Thornton, Mr. THORNTON. ]NO. The CLERK. Ms. Holtzman. Ms. HOLTZMAN. NO. The CLERK. Mr. Owens. Mr. OWENS. No. The CLERK. Mr. Mezvinsky Mr. MEZVINSKY. No. The CLERK. Mr. Hutchinson. Mr. HUTCHINSON. Ave. The CLERK. Mr. McClory. Mr. McCLORY. No. The CLERK. Mr. Smith. Mr. SMITH. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Sandman. Mr. SANDMAN. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Railsback. Mr. RAILSBACK. No The. CLERK. Mr. Wiggins. Mr. WIGGINS. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Dennis. Mr. DENNIS. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Fish. Mr. FISH. No. The CLERK. Mr. Mayne. Mr. MAYNE. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Hogan. Mr. HOGAN. No. The CLERK. Mr. Butler. Mr. BUTLER . No. The CLERK. Mr. Cohen. Mr. COHEN. No. The CLERK. Mr. Lott. Mr. LOTT. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Froehlich. Mr. FROEHLICH. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Moorhead. Mr. MOORHEAD. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Maraziti. Mr. MARAZITI. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. Latta. Mr. LATTA. Aye. The CLERK. Mr. RODINO. Mr. RODINO/ NO. The CHAIRMAN. The clerk will report. The CLERK. Mr. Chairman 11 members. have voted aye. 26 members have, voted no, I member voted present. The CHAIRMAN. And the motion is not agreed to. [00.41.34]
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[00.46.13] Mr. RANGEL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition. The CHAIRMAN. If the gentleman will defer, the gentleman from Alabama has to ask unanimous consent. Mr. FLOWERS. I regret I passed over the most important thing I ask unanimous consent that the debate on this motion of mine be limited to 20 minutes, with 10 minutes going to the, proponents and 10 minutes to the opponents of the. motion, The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, it is so ordered, and the gentleman from New York. Mr. RANGEL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I rise to support this paragraph No. 7 which deals with charging the President with disseminating information received from officers of the, Department of Justice of the United States to subjects of the investigation conducted by lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the Untied States for the purpose of aiding and assisting such subjects and in their attempts to avoid criminal liability. This is merely to suggest that one of the, most sacred institutions that we have in this country is the proceedings which take, place in the grand jury. It shocks my sensitivity to hear certain members of this Committee' indicate that an inference is drawn because the President shares information that he receives from the Acting Attorney General -with people that he knows are, being, investigated for possible indictment, where the Acting Attorney General has indicated that these people would be Indicted, that we can Say that the President' shared grand jury information with these people that we should draw two inferences One inference is that the President would want them to he and conform their story to one that would avoid liability, and one of the members suggested that we should consider the fact that that. perhaps in this particular instance the President wanted one of his' men to tell the truth. I submit that regardless of which one of these two the. President was suggesting, it was violating the secret, information which should have remained in the grand jury and should never have been shared in the first instance with the President. And the President should never have used this information regardless of for what purpose to share with other people. This is especially so when he went out of his -way to tell Henry Petersen that he -was going to keep that information confidential. But, this is all a part of a plan.. Most of you recall on March 21 when John Dean came to the, President to talk about the cancer that was growing in the White House that the President again recalled exactly what he, was being told on his Dictaphone and the President knew the people in the, White House had started this conspiracy rolling. Of course, at that time it was merely to gather political intelligence. The President had remembered some of the, political intelligence because CRP would give it to Magruder, Magruder would give it, to Strachan, Strachan would give it to Haldeman. and Haldeman has discussed it with the President and we have that on a tape. Now just where do you get political intelligence from your opponents? The record is very clear, because. the President responds, "Are we bugging -Muskie are we. bugging McGovern" and the, inference which I draw "or it just the DNC." Now, I don't know how the President would expect they would get this information because you are only a burglar if you get caught, and so when the President asked information of the Attorney General, and he directed Ehrlichman to tell Kleindienst that no White House personnel had prior knowledge of the break-in, it was strange how one, member said yesterday well, they didn't have prior knowledge. Well, in other words, I will accept what the member said. I don't really believe that Liddy and Hunt called the President of the United States and said we are going to bit on June 17. I do believe, however that Ehrlichman knew that, Haldeman knew, that Mitchell knew that, they had, gotten enough money together for' Liddy and Hunt. Liddy was transferred off the White House payroll to go to work for CRP. Hunt, still had his office in the White House, and Mr. Kleindienst, who is supposed to be receiving this report for the first time, saw the head of the burglary on the golf course, and he never told the FBI. So, the scenario which one member said, it's true they never had prior knowledge that the only knowledge people in the White House did not know was when they were going to hit. But, they certainly knew when they got information whether they were in San Clemente, whether they were in Washington, D.C. or whether or not they were in Key Biscayne, that. Liddy and Hunt were the people. As a matter of fact, the President says on one of the tapes that we received that he immediately suspected Colson. Let's find out what the plan is. Most of you heard that, it was suggested to Mr. Mitchell. He was the new plan, as Martha clearly pointed out, that they felt that if they could deliver Mr. Mitchell, then perhaps it would keep away from the White House and keep it away from the Presidency. I do not know why people insist that you read the whole paragraph after you talk about the stonewall and plead the fifth amendment, because the President is saying he would rather do it another way if it is going to come out at all. But, the President concludes to read the bottom line that whether you stonewall, cover up, and save the. plan, the last thing that he said to Mr. Mitchell is that: "You know, lip to' this point, the whole theory has been containment, and you know that, John, but they are shifting now, and the important thing is to protect the people. The important thing is to go to the grand jury, get the information and report back to those people who are the suspects by Henry Petersen." The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman has consumed 5 minutes. I will recognize the gentleman from Iowa, Mr. Mayne, for 5 minutes. [00.52.50]
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[00.58.28] Mr. MAYNE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [quoting] QUESTION. And you testified, however, that had it, in fact, been technically grand jury testimony that., in your legal opinion, you had a perfect right to transmit it to the President? Is that right? ANSWER. Yes, sir. QUESTION. Arid I think you testified also that had it, in fact, also been grand jury testimony that in your legal opinion it would be entirely proper, correct and legal for the President, in the discharge of his administrative function in determining whether or not to fire Haldeman and Ehrlichman what he should do about them and so on, to inform them of the charges against them, is that correct? [end quoted section] ANSWER. Yes, sir. Now, similar answers were given by this distinguished public servant and to a number of Congressmen who questioned him on the subject, it seems clear that much ado is being made about nothing in this particular paragraph insofar as it related to the testimony that the President did transmit information received from Mr. Petersen. Mr. RANGEL. Would the gentleman yield'? Mr. DENNIS. Mr. Chairman Mr. MAYNE. I yield back my time to Mr. Dennis. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Indiana is recognized for the remainder of the time---3 minutes. Mr. DENNIS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Mayne has made my speech for me and made it very well. I am very happy that he recalled that colloquy that I had with Mr. Petersen and called it to our attention, because it is the answer. Mr. Petersen said in the first place that it was not grand jury testimony although some of it was, some of it wasn't. In the second place, if it had all been grand jury testimony he would have had a, perfect right to tell the President of the United States about it, as he, did. In the third place, the President of the United States had a perfect right to take up with these people the general subject matter with which they were charged for his administrative purposes and in order to determine whether or not they ought to be fired or retained, and "I expected him to do that when I talked to him." And there was not anything illegal about it. Now, that is the Petersen testimony. And now we are going, to hang somebody because of that transaction when that is the man involved has to say about it and it- is very, very difficult to see. Mr. Petersen has no complaint and I would not think that this committee would have any complaint either. Now, that is adequately covered and I hope everyone here understanding exactly the procedure we are going through. Yesterday we gave these people a little hard time because they would not file an ordinary charge which as Mr. Latta said, would be granted to any jaywalker in the land. So today the have concocted a scenario and we have a series Of motions which nobody intends to vote for, even including the charming gentleman who makes them, just so they can talk about Specifies that they were not willing to plead. That is all right. It is good, clean fun, I guess. A little bit farcical, I think, for such a serious Procedure. I am afraid some of the bias against the President is showing here and there in this kind of an operation. I am afraid so, but really there is not very much more to say about this particular charge because the man who was involved and whose information was supposed to be transferred has no complaint and. said that it was perfectly 'all right. I think the gentleman from New Jersey, Mr. Sandman, wanted Me to yield to him, and I will be happy to do so. Mr. SANDMAN. Thank you. My only Purpose in seeking this 1 minute is, I have a question for my friend from Alabama. On my motion to strike, you voted no, On' the second one, of course, we had no vote. On three and four, you only voted present. Five and six, we had no vote. NOW, On seven, I am Curious: Are, you going to vote for your own amendment or are you going to Continue to call on people to defeat your amendment? The CHAIRMAN. the time of the--- Mr. FLOWERS./ Mr. Chairman, may I answer the question? Mr. SANDMAN. Could I have unanimous consent to have the gentleman answer? The CHAIRMAN. Without objection. [01.02.58] [DEADPAN] MR. FLOWERS. Well, the caliber of the debate is so outstanding, Mr. Sandman, that it leaves me undecided at the conclusion. [cut to SANDMAN laughing] [DISORDER in the room] The CHAIRMAN. The committee will please be in order and I think it is important that we try to maintain some decorum in this chamber. The gentleman from Illinois is recognized for 5 minutes. MR. RAILSBACK. Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, we have spoken to this issue before and I regret the need to have to go back into it. But, I guess this is what we have decided to do today. Let me just say that I think the American people, if they want to suitably apprise themselves of the facts surrounding the events of April 15, ought to get ahold of the transcripts and look at them. The two preceding speakers forgot to relate a couple, of important events. The President of the United States, who was interested in finding out about the involvement of Haldeman and Ehrlichman his two top aides, had specifically assured Henry Petersen, the new----- [01.04.16--TAPE OUT]
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NO AUDIO The Dutch Royal family summering in Italy in a villa named "The Happy Elephant" --- Royalty en masse beside the Mediterranean. LS as camera pans the Italian countryside and comes to rest on a stone marker. "L'Elefante Felice" which means the "Happy Elephant". MS Queen Juliana and her family (her daughters) sit in the their courtyard. Paparazzi take photos. Medium CUS as Queen Juliana and her two daughters smile for the cameras. CU of Queen Juliana's daughters Princess Irene and Princess Beatrix. CU of Queen Juliana. CU of Prince Bernhard, husband of Queen Juliana smoking a pipe. Low angle shot looking up at Villa "L'Elefante Felice". CU os Princess Irene standing up wearing sandals and slacks while adjusting her shirt. Princess Irene's husband, Prince Charles, stands beside her. CU of Princess Beatrix and husband Prince Claus. They are smiling and laughing. High Angle as Queen Juliana and Prince Bernhard, smoking his pipe, descend stairs followed by their daughters heading towards the sea.
Impeachment Hearings: House Judiciary Committee, July 27, 1974 (2/2)
[00.20.57] Mr. MOORHEAD. And I think that, of course, they have a, right to express their opinion but I do think that -when we are considering such an important thing as the impeachment of a President that we ought to stick to the evidence that we have, and the very best interpretation of the evidence that we have. Some of the things that have been stated are just not borne out by the facts. I Just received a copy of the recent version that, was just given, It was stated first on June 22, 1972, the President publicly adopted as his position, and as factually accurate to the previous statements of Mitchell and Ziegler that the White House had no involvement whatsoever in the Watergate break-in, and that, the CRP had no legal, moral or ethical accountability for the break-in. There is absolutely no evidence that the President, had any knowledge of the involvement of White House people at the time that he made this statement. In fact, the evidence is to the contrary. He had been told that there was no involvement. It was also stated that the grounds for this section were that on August 20, 1972. The President publicly stated that at the President's direction Dean had conducted a complete investigation which indicated that, no one in the White House staff or in the administration Was involved in the Watergate, and that the CRP -was also conducting an investigation of the Watergate. Ehrlichman directed Dean to conduct an investigation to see if anyone in the White House was involved. No one presently employed in the White House -was involved. as was stated. True, there had been one man in the White House that had been there previously that had left. The, third statement was given that on October 5, 1972, the President publicly stated that he wanted every lead carried out by the FBI to the end, "because I wanted to be sure that no member of the White House staff and no man or woman in a position of major responsibility in the Committee for the Re-election had anything to do -with this kind of reprehensible activities." This statement was true. The President did tell Mr. Gray to pursue his investigation. This goes down the line, and I do not intend to go through all of these various sections, but I want one thing very clear, and that is presentation of the live witness before this committee, from the present, it is apparent that Mr. Dean was the man in the White House that had the, responsibility to look into the Watergate investigation. And Mr. Colson told us here, with no ax to grind, that everything was forwarded to Dean that pertained to the. Watergate. Dean was the man that they looked to for any investigation that -was done. And when we listened to the tape of the conversation between the President and Mr. Dean prior to Mr. Dean going up to Camp David, the President's comment, and I do not remember the exact words, was well, this will give you an opportunity to think about the things that have happened and to prepare a report. Mr. Dean went to Camp David, did not prepare a report, although he was again specifically ordered to do so while he was there. I guess his involvement was too deep for him to really be able to prepare something. And as a result, Mr. Dean came back without the report for the President. But, it is perfectly clear that the President looked to Dean for the investigation, for information on this matter. The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman FROM California has expired. The gentleman from Indiana. Mr. DENNIS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [01.25.02]
Watergate Impeachment Hearings. House Judiciary Committee, July 27, 1974.
Watergate Impeachment Hearings. House Judiciary Committee, July 27, 1974.
Impeachment Hearings: House Judiciary Committee, July 27, 1974 (2/2)
[01.30.17] Mr. WALDIE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I think the charge that the coverup was really continuing at the very highest level is embodied in this declaration that the President -was making false or misleading public Statements for the purpose of cementing the coverup. All the activities of those below the President became manifested in terms of the certainly when the President himself says, "That this matter is now being investigated thoroughly and that the results we will give to you are the only results that need be given." Now, there may be some question as to whether the President had within his knowledge, facts up through and until April 30, 1973, because all of these statements were made at a time, when we, did not have in our possession, the edited transcripts. The President then on April 30, May 29, and August 15, and August 22, Continued to make statements that were less than complete. Now, the question is, -was the coverup continuing on April 30 and dates subsequent thereto? It is my own contention that the coverup was continuing in those public statements because there is no question that the erroneous statements actually from April 30, May 22, August 15, and August 22 were clearly known to the contrary to the President because he had edited transcripts of all his conversations. He had full transcripts of all his conversations. The last public statement the President made of this issue to the Nation was April 30 of this year, April 30 of this year, 1974, and he as he has said in every one of these statements to the Nation, tonight I am giving you the definitive story , the real Watergate. Everything you need to know about Watergate is contained and he pointed, as Mr. Latta did last night, to his 47 volumes of edited transcripts. And he said, up to this point you have not had the full story, though he had made about 10 public statements, saying we had had the full story, but this the definitive full story, the edited transcripts -which he is releasing to the Nation. And he said after you have read these, you need no more information. It is all there. Now, we ought to examine was he telling the truth to the public on April 30 of this year when he said all the truth of Watergate is contained in these edited transcripts? The Nation relied on it as the President thought they would and believed this is the final statement about Watergate. Everything up to this point has been less than full because the President says now it is a full story, though it goes back to April 30, 1973. The President says in April 1974, what I told you before April 30, 1973 was not the definitive story but this is. Everything now is in these transcripts. Well, everybody heaved a sigh of relief and said, "Well, thank God, the President finally has told us the full story of Watergate and that is about time, and we are pleased and we are relieved that the President has now told everything there is to know about Watergate. The committee began. examining the edited transcripts and the committee got ahold of tapes from which those transcripts had been. transcribed, and the tapes on our equipment compared to the President's edited transcripts were incredibly more incriminating and, in fact, Produced a great deal more of the story of Watergate, so that the last Public statement of the President, April 30, 1974, that is the full story of Watergate, again has been false and misleading in the extreme because it was misleading in every aspect in those mistaken transcripts, those altered transcripts, misleading in a, manner beneficial to the President, intentionally omitted and deleted, intentionally deceptive and misleading. The, allegation "making false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States"" is an allegation that has been sustained amply as recently as April 30 of this very year. I yield back the balance of my time. The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from California 11,118 expired. All time has expired and the question now occurs, on the motion Of the gentleman, from Alabama. All those in favor of the motion, please say aye. [Chorus of "ayes."] The, CHAIRMAN. All those, opposed. [Chorus of "noes."] The CHAIRMAN. The noes appear to have it. Mr. SANDMAN. Mr. Chairman? The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from New Jersey. Mr. SANDMAN. OR this I demand the ayes and nays. The CHAIRMAN. Call of the roll is demanded and the clerk will call the roll. All those in favor of the motion please signify by saying aye, All those, opposed, no. . The CLERK. Mr. Donohue. Mr. DONOHUE. No. The CLERK. Mr. Brooks. Mr. BROOKS. No The CLERK. Mr. Kastenmeier. Mr. KASTENMEIER. No. The CLERK. Mr. Edwards. Mr. EDWARDS. NO. The CLERK. Mr. r. Hungate. Mr. HUNGATE. NO. The CLERK. Mr. Conyers. Mr. CONYERS. No.------ [01.36.21--TAPE OUT]
Black Bear
On Part 1: Black bear. 00:00:53 Black bear walking around & playing in pool 00:03:55 Black bear walking around & playing in pool 00:06:56 Pulling on log 00:07:20 Bear walking in pool, in woods, standing up 00:09:05 Black bear pulling on log, walking out of woods
Grizzly Bear
PART 1: Grizzly 00:09:51 Young grizzly bear playing near pond, running, swimming 00:14:03 Bear running 00:14:23 Young bear splashing in pond, running, shaking, sucking hurt paw 00:20:45 Bear running around in pond, shaking 00:25:18 Bear running towards cameraman, around pond, then going into pond to cool off 00:31:14 Bear running around pond, then running towards cameraman 00:31:47 Young bear on island looking for food, sees reflection 00:33:29 Young bear on island drinking 00:35:54 Baby grizzly drinking 00:36:44 Baby grizzly running about 00:37:29 Baby rolling on its back 00:37:45 Right hind foot of sleeping grizzly bear 00:38:08 Right front foot 00:38:35 Right hind foot 00:38:57 Right front foot 00:39:16 Baby grizzly, 5 months, sleeping 00:40:29 Female grizzly with 3-5 month old cubs 00:45:46 Female grizzly CU lying down, sleeping 00:49:49 Female grizzly digging around for ground squirrels; three cubs in view 00:52:58 Shaggy bear shedding winter coat, feeding 00:54:08 Sow and cubs backlit walking fast, cubs running 00:56:57 Sow and three cubs climbing Mt. Vista, tundra colors 00:57:17 Grizzly sow, 3-6 month cubs feeding on grass and flowers 00:58:46 Mother feeding while two cubs play fighting 01:01:52 Mother and her cubs feeding
Coyote
(Tape 2) 03:29:04 Coyote hunting in deep snow 03:31:47 Coyote hunting vole in brush, gets nothing 03:32:28 Coyote catches vole in deep snow 03:34:11 Coyote hunting, stalks, nothing
Watergate Impeachment Hearings. House Judiciary Committee, July 27, 1974.
Watergate Impeachment Hearings. House Judiciary Committee, July 27, 1974.
The Commonwealth Games
NO AUDIO The highlights of the British Commonwealth games at Kingston, Jamaica, featuring first films of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, playing polo. Kingston, Jamaica Wide angle shot of the polo field in Kingston, Jamaica. Camera zooms in to Prince Charles taking a sip of a drink while standing with a friend and an older gentleman. MS as a Polo player mounts his horse and a crowd of people stand around the players. Prince Charles mounted on his steed sporting the No. #1 on the back of his shirt. Wide Angle Shot of a polo game in progress with fans watching in foreground. Prince Charles takes a swing at the ball and hits it. They race towards the goal. Polo fans watch from the sidelines. Some with binoculars and very serious facial expressions. A solo shot of Prince Charles hitting the ball while riding his horse. His teammates eventually catch up to him. Close High Angle Shot of a young (teenage?) Prince Charles wiping the sweat from his face with his arm. Wide Angle Shot of Prince Charles and his team mates playing in their Polo match.
Wonderful Willie! Mays 535 Homer Tops Foxx's Record
NO AUDIO In back to back games at Candlestick Park, San Francisco, Willie Mays hits his 534th and 535th career homerun to tie and break Jimmy Foxx's total and take sole possession of second place in the record books. Only Babe Ruth, with 714, has hit more than Willie. High Angle Shot - Baseball fans in the stands. Number 24, Willie Mays at bat and the ball is pitched. He slams it, making his 534th homerun. The crowds in the stands cheer and shout. High Angle Shot - Willie is at bat once again and Denny McLain pitches the ball and he connects hitting his 535th home run. High Angle Shot - All the baseball fans give Willie Mays a standing ovation with the echoes of applause. Willies comes from out of the dugout to wave his hat in the air at his fans. Low Angle Shot to CU of Willie Mays with a young white baseball fan. The fan holds two autographed baseballs. Both guys have big smiles and WIllie makes a werid grin at the camera.
Woman Hansom Cab Driver
NO AUDIO 22 year old Maggie Cogan is one of very few drivers of hansom cabs in New York's Central Park. Her pet cat, "Clyde", is a constant companion. Romantics of all ages have made the horse and carriage ride through Central Park, a Manhattan highlight. MS a young lady tacking up her horse making sure that all the harnesses are buckled and that the horse is secured to the carriage that it will pull. Girl climbing up on to the front seat of the carriage where she will take the reigns in her hands and drive the horses. A young couple gets into the back of her carriage. Maggie climbs aboard and takes the couple for a leisurely ride. MS of New York highrise. Maggie, at the reigns of the carriage with the couple in the carriage behind her heads into busy city traffic. POV- Sitting in the driver's seat, a view of the street and traffic as cars pass in both directions. POV low angle CU of Maggie as she leads the carriage in traffic. Wide Angle of the Carriage going through Central Park in the Spring or Summer. MS Camera Panning Various NYC statues including past Ulysess S Grant and Sim n Bol var Monument. She turns to talk to the couple as they pass by people walking in Central Park.
Taiwan Tea Harvest
NO AUDIO Taiwan marks the 100th anniversary of the export of tea with a bumper crop. Tea has flourished here for over one thousand years. The refining process takes the leaves from the field to the factory where they're dried, massaged, fermented, sifted, refined and packed. MS Women working in flourishing fields of tea leaves. They are wearing coolie hats as they pick tea leaves and put them into baskets that they wear on their backs. Women harvesting tea leaves. CU of a younger girl harvesting tea. The women work their way through the fields and bring their leaves to an open bed truck for a man to dump them into.. Exterior shot of an operational tea factory for the leaves to be processed. MS - Women sorting through thousands of tea leafs. Men operate machines that grind and mash the tea leaves. CU of the machine at work grinding the leaves in a circular motion. MS -Women shoveling up almost dried tea leaves into mechanically operated bins. The machines shake the ground tea leaves in barrels and baskets fot the women to move. MS of a room full of large sealed bags and open grounds of tea.
Kayak Race
NO AUDIO In Spain, a kayak race on the Sella River brings out one hundred and eight contestants from fourteen countries. Fans follow the race on a special train which chugs along the riverbank, stops frequently, then loads up again and continues. It's a thirty-year-old custom! MS People hurry to stand in line to board a passenger train and it is packed. The train sits on the tracks ready to depart. MS of front view of the engine . High Angle Shot -People lining the shore line watching an in progess kayak race. The passenger train moving slowly down the tracks through the countryside. People are lined at the windows and doors to look out and see the race. High Wide angle shot of the kayakers pladding quickly down the river. High angle of the spectators at the shore watching the race as two kayakers paddle like there's no tomorrow. They may be in the lead. POV pictures taken from the train of people waving and leaning out from the moving locomotive. POV pictures taken from the passenger train window of the kayak race. Two Kayaks going head to head. High Angle Shot to Wide Angle shot of the train now stopped letting people off. Passengers run from the train through an open field in a sprint to the water's edge to see the race. High Angle Shot as possibly the lone two kayakers from earlier rowing past a small crowd. Two men set off a flare or firecracker sending passengers running back to the crowded train. MS as the train is on the move again. The two kayakers mantian their lead as they come in for a win to excited enthusuastic crowds. CU of a girl with a huge smile waving in surprise. MS the kayakers wave from their boat.
Airline Strike Ends: Dispute Settled After 43 Days
NO AUDIO After 43 days, the nation's air travel gets back to normal as machinists vote to return to work. The five struck airlines carry sixty percent of the country's passenger traffic. It was our longest and costliest airline strike. Planes lined up on the tarmacs. High Angle Shot - Throngs queued in line getting their tickets stamped. CU little girl with a babydoll in line standing next to her mother and little brother. People patiently await their turn to see the ticket agent. Mother holding her child as the stewardesss checks the ticket. MS airline ground crew working on the plane from inside a hanger (??) Ground crew mechanic checking out wheel well and tire of the plane. MS People embarking onto the plane. High Angle Shot - People sitting in passenger seats on the plane. The seats are filling up quickly. MS Silhouettes of people waving to a United Airline flight that is getting ready to take off from the terminal. People walking up stairs outside the plane to embark on a Eastern Airline passenger plane. Profile of a United Airline flight taxing on a runway ready to take off. Ground to Air - Passenger plane that just taken off and has become airborne.
President Johnson's Tour: Whirlwind Trip Touches 5 States
In a whirlwind three days, President Johnson tours five states and meets with Prime Minister Lester Pearson of Canada. Most of the stops include speeches in New York and New England. The Johnson-Pearson talks at Campobello, President Roosevelt's summer home, aerial shots. CU President Johnson shaking hands. American flag flying in the background. CU of Sign "Buffalo Welcomes President Johnson." High Angle Shot of throngs gathered in the street's of Buffalo, New York.People waving signs. MCUS- President Johnson and Lady Bird Johnson embarking on to a PT boat. CUS Lady Bird and the President looking over the harbor from the deck of the PT boat as the boat leaves harbor. Nice shot of Buffallo skyline. President Johnson giving speech to a very large crowd. Presidential motorcade driving down the streets of New York. President Johnson surrounded by people who want to shake his hand. He gives waves to those he can't reach. Camera panning crowds from moving car. MS President and Lady Bird Johnson approaching the podium. High Angle of shoulder to shoulder crowds. Low Angle Shot President Johnson standing at the podium addressing the crowd, night. People standing in mass applauding the President's speech including some children. President Johnson, on a college campus in cap and gown, shaking hands with a Chancellor or University President. A sign reads "Vermont Welcomes Pres. Johnson." High Angle Shot - Throngs waving to the camera and to the President. CU of President Johnson at a groundbreaking ceremony as he holds a shovel. MCUS - A sign held up in the crowd, "Give our best to Pat and Luci". President Johnson walking through crowds as a storefront or resturant reads " Top of the Town. Low Angle Shot - The rotating radar tower of a naval destroyer with sailors. MS - President Johnson standing with a naval commander on the deck of the destroyer. CU of the two men talking. Low Angle Shot - Sailors standing around a gun on the destroyer. Helicopter taking off from the naval destroyer. Aerial of the destroyer from the Helicopter. MS- Helicopter landing. The President and his entourage disembarking from the helicopter. CU of a Smiling President Johnson. CU of sign " Roosevelt Cottage Open Daily 9am to Noon. 12:30pm to 5pm". Exterior shot - Roosevelt Cottage. Crowds gather around the cottage. President Johnson putting something in a timecapsule marked 1966. Crowds appluading. CU of Prime Minister Lester Pearson of Canada and President Johnson talking.
Soccer Spectacular: Brazil Tops Portugal; Fans In Uproar
NO AUDIO An overflow crowd of 28 thousand soccer fans sit in on a meeting between Santos of Brazil and Benfica of Portugal. Brazil's star, Pele, shows his skill with a 15-foot goal. His 17 year old prot g , Edu, scores twice, with Pele assisting. LS Crowds sitting in their seats in a sports stadium. CUS Edison Arantes do Nascimento aka Pele. Fans try to greet and hug the soccer pro. Excited fans holding up a sign, "Salve! Santos, F.C, Brazil." High Angle Shot - Soccer players on the field. No. 10, Pele kicking the soccer ball and scoring a goal. CUs of Ladies sitting in their seats applauding among other fans. High Angle Shot - Soccer players on the field. CU of the ball in play. CU of the goalie blocking and stopping the ball before another goal is made. CUS of a lady in a dress and sunglasses with little boy applauding. CU of the ball being kicked by No 1, High Angle Shot of the game in progress. NO #10, Pele scoring a goal. Medium Long Shot - People running on the soccer field as the game ends.