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Wading Bird - Great Blue Heron
07:21:28 3 young great blue herons preening 07:22:01 Great blue heron sunning, wings are drooped 07:22:45 Young great blue heron begging for food, adult regurgitates 07:24:54 Great blue heron and chick in nest 07:25:02 Great blue heron arrives and feeds 2 different size chicks ON PART ONE
Wading Bird - Common Egret
Common egret breeding display ON PART ONE
Wading Bird - Great Blue Heron
07:30:25 Great blue heron arranges sticks on nest 07:33:53 Great blue heron stands on nest 07:34:30 Great blue herons mate arrives, greeting ceremony 07:35:38 Male grt blue heron gets a twig for the nest 07:35:36 Male grt blue heron brings a twig to the nest 07:37:06 Great blue heron and young at the nest 07:39:51 Tug of war between male grt blue heron and young over a snake 07:43:00 Female great blue heron pulls big snake out of young's throat and swallows 07:45:32 Female great blue heron and young ON PART ONE
Wading Bird - Common Egret
Common egrets copulating ON PART ONE
Wading Bird - Great Blue Heron
07:46:16 Great blue heron and half grown young 07:46:48 Grt blue heron and young 07:47:06 Male grt blue heron comes to nest and regurgitates food for young ON PART TWO 07:49:18 Grt blue heron young just out of nest and practicing flying 07:51:04 Grt blue heron returns and feeds young
Wading Bird - Common Egret
07:52:48 Common egrets at nest 07:53:49 Common egrets at rookery, cattle egrets coming in too 07:55:21 Common egrets displaying ON PART TWO
Wading Bird - Great Blue Heron
Great blue heron flying from nest ON PART TWO
Wading Bird - Common Egret
07:57:47 Common egret flying from nest 07:57:58 Common egret flying to nest with a twig 07:58:23 Common egret flying and snatches a twig from the water 07:58:41 Common egret flying from the nest 07:58:49 Common egret flying to nest ON PART TWO
Wading Bird - Cattle Egret, Snowy Egret
Cattle and snowy egrets in rookery ON PART TWO
Wading Bird - Black Crowned Night Heron
Black crowned night heron scratches, itches ON PART TWO
Wading Bird - Great Blue Heron
08:18:52 Great blue heron female being bred by 2 males, neither is her mate. They leave and mate returns 08:19:46 Great blue heron looking for sticks for nest ON PART TWO
August 1, 1994 - Part 9
(23:30:30) The CHAIRMAN. Senator Gramm. Senator GRAmm. Mr. Chairman, I would go back and make the same point 100 times, but I think the point has been made, and I'll just leave it to impartial observers. Had there been no threat of a press leak concerning the RTC re- ferral, would it have been ethical or you, Ms. Hanson, to have told Mr. Nussbaum about a referral that related to the First Family? Ms. HANSON. It's my understanding--I understand the ethics rules to require a legitimate governmental purpose. 197 Senator GRAMM. Let me go back and ask my question again. Had ou not been told by somebody that there might be a press leak, ad you never received that communication, quite aside from evaluating its accuracy, but if you bad never received it, would it have been a violation, a breach of ethics I for you to have told Mr. Nussbaum, who was the General Counsel to the President, that there are nine criminal referrals and that at least some of them referred to the President and the First Lady? Would that have been a breach of ethics? Ms. HANsON. Sir, it would have depended on the facts that existed. The fact of the matter is, there were imminent press leaks, and that was the governmental-there has to be a legitimate governmental purpose, and that was the governmental purpose. So, if the question is, if there is no governmental purpose, would it be a violation of ethics? There has to be a proper governmental purpose. Senator GRAMM. You are the General Counsel of the Treasury Department of the United States of America. I'm asking you, in that capacity, had there been no rumor of a press leak, would it have been unethical for you to have told Mr. Nussbaum, who is the General Counsel to the President, and is an employee of a person who was referred to in those nine criminal referrals, would that have been a breach of ethics? Could I get you to say yes or no? Ms. HANsON. It depends on whatever other facts existed. In this particular case, there were press leaks. Senator GRAMm. I'm asking you, as the Legal Counsel of the Treasury Department, a matter of policy concerning ethics, and you're supposed to be an overseer of this activity. Had there been no rumor of a press leak? Ms. HANsON. If there had been no rumor of a press leak, sir, I would not have had this conversation. Senator GRAMM. I didn't ask you that. Would it be ethical? Ms. HANSON. If there was not a legitimate governmental purpose, it would not have been ethical. Senator GRAMM. Can I go back and change my question? Had there been no rumor of a press release or press leak, would it have been ethical to have told the counsel to a person who was referred to in at least one of the nine criminal referrals? Ms. HANsON. We may be just talking past each other here, sir, and it is very late and don't mean to be argumentative. What I'm saying is that you can communicate that information if you have a legitimate governmental purpose. Press leaks, and dealing with the fallout from press leaks, is a legitimate governmental purpose. Senator GRAMM. If everything else had been the same Ms. HANSON. If everything else was the same, and there had been no press leaks, I wouldn't have done it Senator GRAMM. I'm not asking would you have done it. Would it have been ethical, in your opinion Ms. HANSON. I don't believe so. Senator DODD. Could you yield for just one second? The CHAIRMAN. "I don't believe so" is your answer, though? Ms. HANSON. I don't believe so. Senator DODD. Just on that point, and I just read this the other night. It may be interesting, and I'll ask with unanimous consent, Mr. Chairman, to include this in the record. The facts are substan- 198 tially different than the facts before us here, but there was a Subcommittee investigation by the Judiciary Committee in 1980, as between Benjamin Civiletti's communication to then-President Carter about his brother and the possibility of some dealings with Libya and the like. The communication was directly to the President, and the Subcommittee then, and this was a different matter, I admit, but the Subcommittee then concluded that it would not have been improper for the Attorney General to advise the President of significant information received by the Department of Justice, in this case, about Billy Carter's activities. As pointed out below, the President should receive significant information, relative to the constitution, of the exercise of his responsibilities, in this respect to foreign affairs, because it involved Libya and law enforcement. There may be other facts that would warrant- the point I'm making-I understand your point and
Hippoptamus
01:33:33 Zoom Out from Hippo's buttocks. 01:35:19 3 hippos submerged, their eyes peaking above the water. 01:35:44 6 hippos submerged in lake. 01:36:30 1 hippo yawns in water.
Elephant
Elephant
Hippopotamus
02:27:55 Parent hippo and baby hippo in water. 02:30:05 Group of submerged hippos. 02:52:01 Birds-eye-view of hippos on beachfront.
Elephant
01:32:59 Elephants 01:33:26 Elephant tracks in the dust
Rhinoceros
Tape 2 02:06:56 Black rhino fighting, bluffing. 02:17:08 Good side view of both rhinos together. 02:17:37 Both jog towards passing safari jeep. 02:21:39 Rhino rests behind 2nd rhino. 02:24:16 CU Side of rhino's face. Flies are getting into its eyes. 02:27:00 MS Rhino with symbiotic birds on back.
Rhinoceros
Tape 1 01:36:50 Black rhino walks toward camera. 01:38:21 Rhino walks past long-necked bird, and gazelle-like animals. 01:42:09 CU Rhino.
Elephant
01:42:51 Elephant with egret on back walking through deadfall. 01:43:47 Elephant's buttocks between two dead trees. 01:43:54 E scratches against trees. 01:44:39 E picks from dead tree limbs. 01:47:01 CU pan across elephant's body. 01:47:26 Elephant walks past car. 01:48:14 Elephant trekking across veldt, faithful egret follows avoiding the massive feet. 01:49:46 Dusty elephant drinks water. 01:51:55 E walks toward camera with broken left tusk. Egrets follow. 01:52:41 E smacks egret away, seems annoyed. 01:54:21 LS of elephant and egrets crossing veldt.
Black Rhinoceros
(Tape 1) 01:56:26 Black rhino with oxpecker birds - symbiosis 01:57:24 Black rhino coming head on and feeding 01:59:43 Black rhino and safari car 02:03:30 Black rhino showing aggression and running 02:04:38 Black rhino fighting and bluffing 02:06:43 Black rhino fighting and bluffing and charging against almost grown.
Hippopotamus
(TAPE 1) Mother hippo and baby 02:58:53 Hippo herd in water. 03:00:09 Hippo herd on land. 03:01:00 Back of huge hippo. 03:02:16 Wounded baby hippo 03:02:31 Baby hippo. 03:02:54 Wounded baby hippo.
Red Fox 2
(TAPE 1) 01:38:41 Red fox pup (silver phase) close up - 39 days old 01:41:04 Female red fox 01:41:17 Pup (cross phase) at den with squirrel tail - eating 01:45:38 Male at den, female barks 01:46:17 Pup coming out of den and trying to catch a fly
August 1, 1994 - Part 9
(23:36:03) Senator GRAMM. This is not foreign policy, Chris. Senator DODD. There are facts which could warrant a communiSenator GRAMM. I'm just going to assert, based on what you have identical said, that it would-if everything else had been except this rumor of a press leak-it would have been unethical for you to have passed on the information. Ms. HANSON. That's not what--all things being-if there was no governmental purpose, it would not have been appropriate or proper. There was a governmental purpose here, and the Office of Government Ethics has so concluded. Senator GRAMM. How do you delineate here-it's unethical to tell someone who represents someone who is mentioned in nine criminal referrals. That's a violation of Government ethics. In fact we've had a couple of people who read the actual ethics standards, but yet, if you have heard that it might be leaked to the media, it's OK Do you really believe that there is a justification for giving someone information about a criminal referral because you have heard that it might be leaked to the media? You've never seen it in the media. You've never talked to anybody from the media. You're not the Press Secretary. You didn't claim, here, you had talked to anybody in the media, or with any newspaper, that's going to publish it. You had heard-that someone else had talked to somebody in the media and, therefore, it made it OK for you to call the General Counsel to the President of the United States and tell him that his boss was mentioned in nine criminal referrals? Do you really believe that makes it OK? Ms. HANSON. I don't believe I said he was mentioned in nine criminal referrals. Sir, I had this information from a very good source and someone Senator GRAMM. Could you tell us what the source was? Ms. HANSON. I understood, from Mr. Roelle, that these referrals were going to be leaked to the press as soon as they arrived in Washington. Senator GRAMM. And he knew this, based on past experience? Ms. HANSON. I don't know what the basis was, although, as I've stated, the IG chronology that was released to the public yesterday, indicates that Mr. Dudine was aware on September 23, 1993, that a reporter was getting close to something about these very criminal 199 referrals. I suspect, based on this, Mr. Roelle had information that led him to reach that conclusion that was more than just speculation and, in fact, he was right, because they were leaked to the press, and very, very possibly before I talked with Mr. Nussbaum, because it was confirmed the following day. The CHAIRMAN. Let me interrupt, your time is up. I think we've gotten as far as we're going to get on that exchange. You've both made your points, they're there, and they've been restated. Senator DAmato. Senator D'AmATo. Let me, if I might, take you to the afternoon of February 3, 1994, when you were at lunch, and the beeper went off. Would you try to recount what took place? Ms. HANSON. I was at lunch. My beeper went off twice. The second time it went off, I went to the front of the restaurant. There was a call waiting for me. It was my secretary, who said that Mr. Altman had called, or his office had called, to say that there was a meeting that was going to take place at the White House right then, that I needed to come back immediately, and that Mr. Alt-man was waiting for me. I paid my bill, expressed my regrets to my luncheon companion, and went back to the Treasury He was gone. I was told I was to meet him in Maggie Williams office. I went, and when I arrived in Ms. Williams' office Mr. Eggleston, Mr. Ickes, and Ms. Williams were all there. The were all standing up and I was told that Mr. Altman had just Senator D AMATO. Did you have a conversation with any of the people there, then?
August 1, 1994 - Part 9
(23:40:41) Ms. HANSON. I did. Of what I recall of it, Mr. Ickes asked me who knew I had recommended to Mr. Altman that he recuse himself, and I recall giving him three names. He said, "Good, because if it got out, it would look bad." Senator DAMATO. What did you reply to him? MS. HANSON. I told him it was what I would have done if I were in his position. Mr. Ickes said, "It would be better if it didn't get out" and I said, "If I'm asked, that's what I will say." Senator D'AMATO. Ms. Hanson, you said, That's what I would do if I were in his position." You're referring to Mr. Altman's recusal? Ms. HANSON. That's correct. He was not required to recuse himself. It was a personal decision. senator DAmATO. I just want to set the record straight. Did you have any further meetings with Secretary Bentsen after the February 3, 1994, meeting at the White House? Ms. HANSON. We did meet. Mr. Altman and I met with the Secretary and Senator DAmATO. Do you recall how many occasions? MS. HANsoN. On this issue? Senator DAmATO. Yes. Ms. HANSON. On two other occasions. Senator DAMATO. Could you give us the nature of those meeting and who was there? ?is. HANSON. In the first meeting, Mr. Altman and I were there. Mr.-Altman told the Secretary that he had decided not to recuse himself. Senator DAMATO. When was that meeting? 200 Ms. HANSON. I don't recall, sir. It was shortly after the meeting at the White House, but I can't place that specifically. Senator DAMATO. Could it have been the same day, on February 3 , 1994? Ms. HANSON. It could have been. I just don't recall. Senator DAMATO. Go ahead. Mr. Altman reported on the meeting at the White House to the Secretary.? Ms. HANSON. What I recall of the meeting was that he said he had decided not to recuse himself, for the time being, and that he didn't believe it made any difference, but it made them happy Senator DAMATO. Made "them" happy, meaning who? Ms. HANSON. -which I understood to be the people we had met with in the White House. Senator DAMATO. Do you remember the Secretary saying anything about that? Ms. HANSON. I recall the Secretary saying that he thought he would-he, Mr. Altman, would take some political heat for the decision, but that it was his decision to make. Senator DAMATO. Did you have occasion, on the second meeting with the Secretary, and did you speak privately with Secretary Bentsen? Tell me about the second meeting with Secretary Bentsen and Mr. Knight, Do you know about the second meeting? Ms. HANSON. It was not a second meeting, but there was a meeting with Mr. Knight, Mr. Altman, and Secretary Bentsen. I don't recall why that meeting was called or what else took place, but I recall that Mr. Altman went through and summarized the original White House meeting and the statute of limitations discussion and said that he had reserved judgment on the recusal decision. He, then, went on to say that he had ter decided not to recuse himself for the time being. Senator DAMATo. After that meeting, did you have a conversation with the Secretary? Ms. HANSON. Yes, I did. Senator DAMATO. Immediately following the meeting? Ms. HANSON. I believe, it was immediately following the meeting. The Secretary said, "That's not exactly the way I recalled it," and I said, "I don't think it matters. I don't think it makes any difference." Senator D'AMATO. You mean, the Secretary expressed the opinion that Mr. Altman had informed him, prior to going to the White House, that he was going to recuse himself? Isn't that when the Secretary said, 'That's good. I agree with you!'? Ms. HANSON. The Secretary said, "It sounds like the right decision." Senator DAMATO. The Secretary indicated that he approved of that decision and, so now, he stops you and he says