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Street scenes ON PREVIEW TAPE # 991875 some basic idea of these shots are: above view of street, row of palms down middle, big domed building (church or temple or something?) with a sign which says America on it vertically surburban homes
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The World Series
The Minnesota Twins have the Los Angeles Dodgers seeing double as they take the first two games of the World Series. 8 - 2, 5 - 1. The highlight of the first game is the fateful third inning when the Twins need a traffic cop on the base paths as they score six runs. The Dodgers were never the same after that. Wide shot - Metropolitan Stadium filled with baseball fans and Vice President Hubert Humphrey is throws out the first baseball. MS - Mudcat Grant of the Dodgers pitches the ball, Ron Fairly swings and hits a homerun. MS - Dodger, Don Drysdale pitches the ball and Don Mincher hits and scores a home run. MS - Twins, Frank Quilici swings and brings it home for a homerun - off of Don Drysdale. MS - Zoilo Versalles swings and scores a three run homer putting the Twins out in front 4 to 1. MS - Baseball fans in the stands. MS - Earl Battey at home plate, he swings and they take it home for another home run plus 2 more runs for the Twins by Valdespino and Killebrew. MS - Don Drysdale pitches the ball and Frank Quilici swings and Mincher runs in and scores - ouch!. CU - A very enthusiastic Minnesota baseball fan really applauding. Twins 8 LA Dodgers 2.. Twins win this game
August 1, 1994 - Part 6
(18:25:45) Thank you very much, Ms. Hanson. I see that my time has expired. The CHAiRmAN. Thank you, Senator Sasser. Senator Gramm. OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR PHIL GRAMM Senator GRAmm. Mr. Chairman, I'd be happy to begin now, but we're getting ready for the second bell on a floor vote. Should I .wait until we get back? The CHAIRMAN. We'll give you your full shot of time. Senator Boxer is going across to vote and coming back. If we have to interrupt the hearing, she can resume it until I can vote and come back. I think you should start and we'll protect your time. If you feel hurried, we'll give you the time you need. Senator GRAmm. Ms. Hanson, thank you very much for appearing before the Committee. I want to go back and be sure, before I get to the questions, that I understand exactly what the facts are. Mr. Roelle, who is a career employee of the FDIC, who was, until recently, on assignment to the RTC, called you-you are not an RTC employee, but you work for the Treasury Department-he called you to give you a message about criminal referrals. I want to be sure that I've got it right. Was the message that there were criminal referrals and that they might be leaked to the press, or was the message that there are criminal referrals that might be leaked to the press and that there are nine of them? In other words, was the purpose of the communication to tell you that the referrals were coming and they might be leaked to the press, or was the purpose of the communication to tell you about the criminal referrals and, as an afterthought, an amendment, or an addendum, a mention that they might be leaked to the press? Ms. HANSON. It was my understanding that the reason I was receiving this information was at the request of Mr. Altman, and I understood the reason for the call was because this information was going to leak to the press. There was a policy that Mr. Altman be made aware of information involving people of prominence or companies, national companies, if the information was going to ap- pear in the press. So, it was perfectly consistent, to my mind, the policy that the RTC was using in terms of giving information 123 to Mr. Altman, Otherwise, I don't know why Mr. Altman would 'have gotten this information. Senator GRAmm. Was this the first time this had happened or had it happened before? Ms. HANSON. The first time? Senator GRAmm. That you had been notified, as a conduit to Mr. Altman, that an investigation was going to leak to the press. Was this the first one ever, or had there been similar communications about major companies, as you mentioned, or about other individuals? Ms. HANsON. From time to time, I spoke-I spoke with Mr. Roelle over a period of months, from time to time, and on a number of occasions I was given information that Mr. Roelle indicated would likely leak, or would leak. I served, from time to time, as a conduit for information to Mr. Altman,, because be just didn't, physically, have enough hours in his day to speak with all of the people that he needed to talk to. Senator GRAmm. In notifying you of this, they were notifying you, obviously, as their way of notifying Mr. Altman? Ms. HANSON. That's correct. Senator GRAmm. Did Mr. Roelle tell you why he believed that this would be leaked to the press? Ms. HANSON. No, be didn't, but as I stated, the RTC leaked a lot and so I believed him. Senator GRAmm. Was this referral coming to the RTC or to the Justice Department? Ms. HANSON, As I understood it, it was being transmitted from the Kansas City RTC office to the Washington RTC office, and from the Washington RTC office it would 90 to the Department of Justice. Senator GRAmm. We have our second bells for the vote on the Senate floor, and, Mr. Chairman, if it's OK with you, I'd like to stop so that we might vote. The CHAIRMAN. Then we'll recess at this point and reserve the remainder of Senator Gramm's time, and what I'm going to do, Senator Gramm, if Senator Boxer comes back and another Senator is ready, have her start with that person, and as soon as that person finishes, we'll go back to you. The Committee stands in recess pending the return of Senator Boxer. (18:30:23) [Recess.] (18:30:25) Commentary of hearings hosts NINA TOTENBERG and DON BODE from tv studio, they also interview MICHAEL ROSS of the Los Angeles Times and Senator CHRISTOPHER DODD
August 1, 1994 - Part 6
(18:40:04) Hearing resumes: Senator BOXER. We'll come back to order. When Senator Riegle comes in, be will take the Chair. In the meantime-what well do IS continue, and when Senator Gramm comes in, we'll go back to 'his time. If there's no objection, I can take my 7 minutes at this time. When Senator Gramm comes back, we'll go right back to him. Ms. Hanson, I want to talk to you about this who le issue of press leaks. I want to start off where my colleague, Senator Bennett, was going with his questions because I'm trying to understand all of this and I really don't understand it. You seemed very proud that You had, in fact, briefed Mr. Nussbaum before the press leaks actually occurred. You said I was right. lit. Am I correct in the way I'm Ms. HANSON. I think what I did was appropriate, absolutely. 124 Senator BoxER. You think it's correct. Is it in your job description to head off press leaks, to advise people at the White House that there are going to be press leaks? Is this something that you, you ever discussed, that your job was supposed to include that? Ms. HANsON. I never discussed it specifically, to my recollection Senator BOXER. Yet you said it was for a governmental purpose Could you elaborate on that? How is advising the White House a press-what you fear is going to be leaked to the press, how that really benefit our country, our Nation? Ms. HANsoN. To the extent that the White House or the President dent-because the President could be asked a question-to the tent that he is asked a question that mischaracterizes the info tion, or otherwise would put the Presidency, the President, the office of the Presidency, the Administration, and the whole Go ment in a bad light, it is important that the person to whom inquiry is going to come has the information in order to pre deal with the inquiries as they come. Senator BoXER. If I just might say to you, and I really you and believe that you function from goodwill and good purpose that if all we were worried about was what's going to put us in a' bad light, nothing would ever get done. I venture to say, it's my feeling that with everybody's ' heightened concern about all this, I don't think it really served anyone very well because I agree with Senator Bennett. If there's a press leak, a question, and it has to do with something that happened 12 years ago, and there's a private attorney that's been hired to handle that situation, why not give the advice to those who would be concerned about it as follows'? In other words, have the RTC press office just inform the White House press office that these questions were coming, and they have to do with something that happened a long time ago, and your advice is to refer it all to private counsel. Ms. HANsON. It's not my understanding that there was private counsel hired at that time, but the White House also had a policy in place that, to the extent that information was going to be discussed with White House officials that related to ongoing investigations, the contact point was Counsel to the President. So, according to the White House guidance, as I understood it, as it existed at that time and as I believe it still exists, the White House Counsel was the appropriate contact point Senator BOXER. But you didn't work with the White House. Let me talk to you about Mr. Altman's testimony because it's troubling to me that you sat behind him and there were questions by my colleagues--Senator Gramm, Senator Bond, and I may be reiterating what my Chairman said-- but it seemed to me that when you were testifying before a Senate Committee or a House Committee, and questions were asked, you bad an obligation to respond in full, not to give a tortured or incomplete answer. Now, you were there, and in your mind, you made a mental note, "We've got to go back." What does that mean, "We've got to go back"? How many days were you going to take? You knew that you bad informed Mr. Nussbaum about the referrals. Is that correct? You sat there knowing that, Ms. HANsON. As I stated, at that time, as I sat there, I realized that I had not thought-we had not prepared Mr. Altman. The en 125 tire preparation focus was on the civil investigation that was underway at that time, the statute of limitations issue, the Vacancy Act issue, as it related to Mr. Altman. Senator BOXER. I'm going to interrupt you here, if I might, for just a minute, because I think that is a tortured answer. When Senator Gramm asked his question, he didn't make a distinction. He just asked Mr. Altman if he, or any member of his staff, had discussed anything to do with Whitewater, but, yet in your mind, you only heard civil investigation. I don't understand how a reasonable person would interpret the question in that fashion.